We Need Regulation

This is my first time to this site and already I can say how most conjectures I see here are not win able. I also see an ignorance here:

https://www.rollitup.org/legalization-marijuana/251045-war-breaks-out-within-marijuana.html

Sir you are being very ignorant on so many levels. First off, I am a member of the MPP and I don't appreciate how dropping funding to the MPP would have ever of helped your initiative. The MPP has done nothing but fight in Congress legalize and regulate the use of “medical marijuana.” We also help seniors and many others that just can't afford paying for the marijuana. How does one make a conjecture to that an ounce would cost 500? Have you been to different states and in different dispensaries? I've been in many and I have never seen the cost that high. Where did you get your statistic from? Now, the 300 I can understand your concern sir. That is a matter of state policy that can/will be worked on, The fact that the dispensary is there is the first part of the process.

In the interests of the MPP I don't speak directly on behalf of them, however speak as their representative. The MERC policy doesn't work sir. It doesn't work because of how Washington works and how politics are played. You can't march in with insistence – a method that the MPP has tried and failed. We find that the best way is to properly educate the politicians, not to demand.

Medical is the first step of legalization. If we are able to setup dispensaries in every state, it will be the next step to then ask for total legalization. Why not go straight to total legalization like you do? Do you think you have a better shot with dispensaries in every state than non at all? There is a strategy here and it's one geared for regulation.

Look, I understand many of you here think that taxation on marijuana is bullshit since you can grow it yourself. That's fine with me. One can brew a batch of beer in his house and even grow tobacco in a potted plant. When it comes to buying though, I am not a botanist. I have no interest in actually growing plants to smoke them. If I want to get it I will get it at the store and just buy it. There are MANY other people like myself, who in turn, don't give a shit what it is; how it's grown – they just want to get it. The availability must be there for those people.

There is a bigger picture here that you are blind to see. You want decriminalization of marijuana? Fine, but you need to regulate it. If you don't than expect to keep seeing violence in Mexico escalate. While you might think that Mexico is not in your interest to help, then the problems will come to America.
The reason why to regulate is not a tax issue as much as it is a humanistic one. Many Mexican police officers are dead and some, their family's with them. These fatalities ranged from be-headings to complete dismemberment. Again, these weren't just the officers, these were wives, sons, mothers, and daughters. Mexican DTOs(drug traffic organizations) have put up the fight and unfortunately it's bad enough that the military is now involved in daily police work. (Source: http://www.airpower.au.af.mil/apjinternational/apj-s/2009/3tri09/sullivaneng.htm)


Unregulated (witch is what you are suggesting) infers that you support such violence. With regulation, you will know where that marijuana comes from and that my friend,is how you shut Mexican DTO that market down. 35.4 billion was estimated that year which accounted for [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]15,500 metric tons of marijuana. That money could have been ours. If you promote no regulation you must be a sadist.
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LowRider82

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Look, I understand many of you here think that taxation on marijuana is bullshit since you can grow it yourself.
this line is getting old. why does everyone got the impression there going to tax you to grow it for personal use? there not, its a non enforceable law if there ever was one. The tax only comes in play when you plan on going to a store and buy it. that's the only area where it will be taxed is the businesses.
 

Drgreenz

Well-Known Member
legalization is going to come about solely because of medical marijuana. medical marijuana is what stems all of the research and money into correcting the anti pot bias faced today. besides what we need is deregulation, decriminalize it and the market will drop the price overnight, there would be no more mexican cartels, no more border violence. deregulation is always the best approach in anything business and marijuana is on hell of a business.
 

dontexist21

Well-Known Member
What makes weed so special that it should not be taxed. There is not a single argument that people can make that would not be made better with full legalization. Businesses are taxed, that's the way it is, has been and will be as long as their is some form of capitalism, get over it. If weed is not legalized you will still have crime and innocent people being locked up for a plant, decriminalization does not fix that.

I doubt the IRS is going to be looking out for your personal grow, unless you are dumb enough to allow them into your house. Can someone please tell how the IRS would ever find about a personal grow IF it was personal growers were taxed if it was legal. Because I am sure people are going to start running to the IRS telling them about you garden. Some people might trust the police. NO ONE trust the IRS. Unless you start selling it, no one will find out, and even if you sell it, you have to sell enough to catch the eye of the IRS

At this point I don't care, I rather a useless tax for personal growers be levied that no one would pay and then what we have now. We can always be fight it later. Ask yourself what is worse? Don't get me wrong my family business has lost a pretty penny to those IRS scum, but small time tax evasion is easier to avoid and has far lesser consequences now then growing ONE plant. Hell killing someone has lesser consequences. At least if you kill someone you can say you found God and they will let you go.

The people focusing on the wrong things are the ones that are going to kill our chances.
 
this line is getting old. why does everyone got the impression there going to tax you to grow it for personal use? there not, its a non enforceable law if there ever was one. The tax only comes in play when you plan on going to a store and buy it. that's the only area where it will be taxed is the businesses.
Again, regulation is not about taxes. It's about regulation - making sure quantities are reasonable and making sure it comes from AMERICA! NOT MEXICO! NOT SOUTH AMERICA!

Also please reread the part I said about not everyone growing it.
 
legalization is going to come about solely because of medical marijuana. medical marijuana is what stems all of the research and money into correcting the anti pot bias faced today. besides what we need is deregulation, decriminalize it and the market will drop the price overnight, there would be no more mexican cartels, no more border violence. deregulation is always the best approach in anything business and marijuana is on hell of a business.
Deregulate and watch the Cartels will mass produce it and bring it in in mass amounts.

Again you people don't understand that many people don't care to grow it themselves.....
 
This is my first time to this site and already I can say how most conjectures I see here are not win able. I also see an ignorance here:

https://www.rollitup.org/legalization-marijuana/251045-war-breaks-out-within-marijuana.html

I see a lot of ignorance here too - ever hear of spell check?
BTW, have you ever heard of the BATF or IRS taxing people to brew their own wine/beer?
Bone head.
Thank you for watching out for me. Some times I make spaces between words. It happens to many people. Thank you again for your skills in finding a post where two words are not conjugated. You should think of becoming a professor at Harvard.

You're right, they don't tax it. Again, that isn't what regulation is about. Please reread before making inane conjectures...
 
What makes weed so special that it should not be taxed. There is not a single argument that people can make that would not be made better with full legalization. Businesses are taxed, that's the way it is, has been and will be as long as their is some form of capitalism, get over it. If weed is not legalized you will still have crime and innocent people being locked up for a plant, decriminalization does not fix that.

I doubt the IRS is going to be looking out for your personal grow, unless you are dumb enough to allow them into your house. Can someone please tell how the IRS would ever find about a personal grow IF it was personal growers were taxed if it was legal. Because I am sure people are going to start running to the IRS telling them about you garden. Some people might trust the police. NO ONE trust the IRS. Unless you start selling it, no one will find out, and even if you sell it, you have to sell enough to catch the eye of the IRS

At this point I don't care, I rather a useless tax for personal growers be levied that no one would pay and then what we have now. We can always be fight it later. Ask yourself what is worse? Don't get me wrong my family business has lost a pretty penny to those IRS scum, but small time tax evasion is easier to avoid and has far lesser consequences now then growing ONE plant. Hell killing someone has lesser consequences. At least if you kill someone you can say you found God and they will let you go.

The people focusing on the wrong things are the ones that are going to kill our chances.

Please reread about REGULATION! This, again, is not about taxes.....
 
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