Root Development Vs Plant Growth (Seed Version)

[skunkushybrid]

So far 4 seeds have germinated... they're what you might call bagseed. They were taken out of a street bag of weed several months ago. The first seed germ'ed after 72 hours. The next several hours afterwards, the other a day later, and the final one 3 days after. So to germinate these four seeds has taken a total of 6 days. There are still seeds on the plate which I'll give every opportunity to pull through.

The two in the black pots will poke their head above surface within the next few hours. The one in the round pot has just gone in today.

I'm confident that this will work out (meaning that these seed plants will start and finish in the same pots, and be of NORMAL size). So to keep things interesting, I've decided to try a 1" x 1" x 1" container alongside them.

The one in the 1" container is showing no signs of poking its head above surface yet, so I hope I'm not pre-empting by mentioning it now.

 

[skunkushybrid]

These guys are struggling... they were kept for months though without being in a fridge or freezer... to be honest I don't know where she kept them. I just know it wasn't a fridge or freezer.

It's not just that the two showing their heads are seeming to be having problems shelling their pods, but they also seem to be having problems standing up. They're all bent over.

I threw all my other seeds out by accident a while ago, all my space queen, jacks surprise, a few others... even some outdoor seeds. Gutted.

Either way, even if these guys make it I doubt they're going to have very good genetics. I don't even know what strain it is... to the person I got them from, weed is weed.

 

[pulverone]

Reminds me of my seed germination problems. I started with 7 bagseeds and 4 I had left over from some order off the net awhile ago. Used the tissue method the seeds swelled up cracked open and went pale at the tip where the root should be. I've kept the tissues moist with fresh water but its been a week and a half with no sign of improvement. Depressing... time for another cone. Sorry if you regard this as hijackin your thread.

 

[skunkushybrid]

Course not. I don't believe it possible for a thread to be hijacked. Conversations naturally steer from one topic to the other, it's the way of things. Besides, I could always just hijack it back again.

 

[skunkushybrid]

Two of them have popped the soil. The 1x1x1 has had an accident. The lamp in the picture tried to kill it. threw itself right on top, and the little pot went flying, seedling popped out and everything. I've pieced it back together, but am not holding out much hope.

The 2 that have popped up their heads look very weak. They're struggling just to get rid of the seed casing. I'm going to put the MH on them tomorrow.

 

[skunkushybrid]

Only one of these is going to pull through... which does not bode well for this thread. I need to get some seeds, and quickly. I'm 4.5 weeks from harvest and I have nothing else coming through...

I don't know what I was thinking trying to grow bagseed, especially not very fresh bagseed. 4 out of 18 seeds germinated, two of these managed to get their head above soil, but only one... the pot on the right in my previous pic' is actually growing. I poured some feed on the one on the left. It fell over, went to stand it back up and it come completely out of the medium, no root to it whatsoever.

I've stuck it back in, but I know it is dead. It hasn't even turned to face it's leaves to the light. Maybe the one on the right is a fem'... but it's chances are slimmer than 50%. Usually the males are the most vigorous.

 

[BSIv2.0]

Nice thread, Skunk. I followed the other too.

 

[skunkushybrid]

I'll update this properly later today, but the one that I thought was dead, appears to be clinging on. It's leaves haven't turned to face the light yet but they are having a good go. Good ol' cannabis, never gives up the fight.

 

[skunkushybrid]

Here's some pic's. you can see that the one on the left is really struggling... but I like it. It's a real battler, I'd written it off completely yesterday... now here it is almost turning it's head to the light. Amazing.

 

[skunkushybrid]

They're dead............... I've had enough. I pulled them out and they had no root. Why grow so far, then just stop? They had me going too, thought I could pull them through... then I thought, they're not worth it.

I'm thinking, AK47..............

 

[newbutpersistent]

sorry to hear that, I don't know what the problem is, mine have been going pretty good. I have 4 happy healthy plants and one used-to-be-sick-but-quickly-turning-healthy plant. I don't know if it makes any difference but they have been under cfl's their whole life.

It could be the seeds but i'm pretty sure a couple of mine had been sitting in the cupboard for at least a month, maybe longer.
I'll post some pics when I can figure out how to. I need to resize them but I can't figure out how. If any one has tips, I would appreciate.

 

[skunkushybrid]

Don't know how long they were left for, and they weren't left by me. There was a bunch of them, but only 4 germ'ed. Only two broke the soil and none grew properly... maybe I could have helped pull them through, but there would be no point (to my mind) wasting good nutes and money on plants that are never going to produce much bud.

I've always used good genetics... now I know why.

 

[ccodiane]

Looks like you had a fan on the babies in one pic. They looked, at one point, like they would pull through. Maybe a little more humidity could help for the first week or so, just until the roots can pull a little more water. The fan could definetly kill babies in a dry environ, dry soil. I look forward to someday seeing a fat bud in that little pot!

 

[skunkushybrid]

Looks like you had a fan on the babies in one pic. They looked, at one point, like they would pull through. Maybe a little more humidity could help for the first week or so, just until the roots can pull a little more water. The fan could definetly kill babies in a dry environ, dry soil. I look forward to someday seeing a fat bud in that little pot!

Yeah, the fan was on very low and raised slightly above them so only the very tops caught the occasional breeze... but they just looked so pathetic. The one on the right stood the most chance... i just couldn't be bothered, not for one plant. I'm going to start from scratch in the next week with some good genetics. I like ak47, so I think i'm going to grow that. Thanks for looking in.

 

[ccodiane]

I haven't tried serious seeds yet but heard good things about potency of all, especially the AK.

 

[tahoe58]

cool thread...skunk....I'll be following this....I sure enjoyed the last one on root development....thanks for taking the initiative on this!

 

[newbutpersistent]

yeah, it's good to see that your not giving up on the whole seed thing, could lead to some interesting insights as to clone vs. seed root development in general.

One other thing, if i'm not remmembering wrong, you have your veg plants on 24/0 right? Just wondering if thats froms prout or if you let them get a couple of nodes first before turning to 24/0? I started my first mother plant and currently have it on all day. It's just that growth seems a little slow. It could just be the genetics or that seed, but I was wondering if I have it on 24/0 too soon? anyway, good luck with the new batch, will be following closely. Going to try again to get some pics up.

 

[newbutpersistent]

well, I think I got it. I really hope this works cause it's like 1 am here and I'm really tired. Well these are some pics of the 2 plants that are already flowering. hopefully they come up alright.

 

[Your Grandfather]

Skunk... super thread ! I'm lovin it

Presently, I'm germin' some Durban poison in 3 different mediums, under 'similar' conditions, so I can take some measurements and also observe their growth and root development.

I started germin these guys on evening of Nov 12. Used paper towel inside of jar, placed inside of bag on shelf. You can not see the oscillating fan, which is always on_15 minutes prior to 'lights on' and 30 minutes after 'lights out'. There are some who will argue with subjecting the plants to breeze but it works for me and seems to yield a very strong plant. I've noted the length of the root and also the day the seed opened up.

I use Fox Farm Ocean with about 50% pearlite and just a hint of bat guano for the medium. When I transplant, I will line the bottom of the container with at least 1" of pearlite to insure adequate drainage and also prevent any salt build up.

The background plants are very short and stout_like a rottweiler. I'm also studying the difference between plants grown in plastic containers versus clay pots.

Thanks for letting me rant.

 

[skunkushybrid]

Excellent. I like how you've given them names i do that too with the seed plants. Great to see you getting in on the action... when i eventually get these seeds in we'll be able to compare notes.