CrackerJax
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He's from the 'gimme" generation.
where do you growers here stand politically? conservative or a liberals?
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Keenly
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lol, a hero...
a president who assisted in the evisceration of the constitution as well as lied to our faces to get us to go to war, as well as violated the constitution on several occasions...
yeah, a real american hero
Red Icarus
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marxist-socialist end of the spectrum for me
CrackerJax
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lol, a hero...
a president who assisted in the evisceration of the constitution as well as lied to our faces to get us to go to war, as well as violated the constitution on several occasions...
yeah, a real american hero
gosh you must have missed the Congressional votes and the UN votes as well. Cry me a river from your discontent.
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Keenly
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or you can kiss my ass? for claiming to be an independent your awfully one sided, pretty closed minded as well
so i guess that just makes it ok since other people voted for it too
lol, a hero...
a president who assisted in the evisceration of the constitution as well as lied to our faces to get us to go to war, as well as violated the constitution on several occasions...
yeah, a real american hero
Try lookin up UN order 1441. Before you run your mouth and think you know it all.
The only President who is lying is the One whos in office now. Theres a guy trying to get around and dismantle the Constitution. Poor thing.....
CrackerJax
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He's a 9/11 truther nut. So don't be surprised if he gets most everything else wrong as well.
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Keenly
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and your head is stuck in a box, and you refuse to look at the issue and just run your mouth
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Keenly
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and your head is stuck in a box, and you refuse to look at the issue and just run your mouth
the articles of impeachment for president bush, listing all the fucking arrogant things he did
- Article I - Creating a Secret Propaganda Campaign to Manufacture a False Case for War Against Iraq.
- Article II - Falsely, Systematically, and with Criminal Intent Conflating the Attacks of September 11, 2001, With Misrepresentation of Iraq as a Security Threat as Part of Fraudulent Justification for a War of Aggression.
- Article III - Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Possessed Weapons of Mass Destruction, to Manufacture a False Case for War.
- Article IV - Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Posed an Imminent Threat to the United States.
- Article V - Illegally Misspending Funds to Secretly Begin a War of Aggression.
- Article VI - Invading Iraq in Violation of the Requirements of HJRes114.
- Article VII - Invading Iraq Absent a Declaration of War.
- Article VIII - Invading Iraq, A Sovereign Nation, in Violation of the UN Charter.
- Article IX - Failing to Provide Troops With Body Armor and Vehicle Armor
- Article X - Falsifying Accounts of US Troop Deaths and Injuries for Political Purposes
- Article XI - Establishment of Permanent U.S. Military Bases in Iraq
- Article XII - Initiating a War Against Iraq for Control of That Nation's Natural Resources
- Article XIII - Creating a Secret Task Force to Develop Energy and Military Policies With Respect to Iraq and Other Countries
- Article XIV - Misprision of a Felony, Misuse and Exposure of Classified Information And Obstruction of Justice in the Matter of Valerie Plame Wilson, Clandestine Agent of the Central Intelligence Agency
- Article XV - Providing Immunity from Prosecution for Criminal Contractors in Iraq
- Article XVI - Reckless Misspending and Waste of U.S. Tax Dollars in Connection With Iraq and US Contractors
- Article XVII - Illegal Detention: Detaining Indefinitely And Without Charge Persons Both U.S. Citizens and Foreign Captives
- Article XVIII - Torture: Secretly Authorizing, and Encouraging the Use of Torture Against Captives in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Other Places, as a Matter of Official Policy
- Article XIX - Rendition: Kidnapping People and Taking Them Against Their Will to 'Black Sites' Located in Other Nations, Including Nations Known to Practice Torture
- Article XX - Imprisoning Children
- Article XXI - Misleading Congress and the American People About Threats from Iran, and Supporting Terrorist Organizations Within Iran, With the Goal of Overthrowing the Iranian Government
- Article XXII - Creating Secret Laws
- Article XXIII - Violation of the Posse Comitatus Act
- Article XXIV - Spying on American Citizens, Without a Court-Ordered Warrant, in Violation of the Law and the Fourth Amendment
- Article XXV - Directing Telecommunications Companies to Create an Illegal and Unconstitutional Database of the Private Telephone Numbers and Emails of American Citizens
- Article XXVI - Announcing the Intent to Violate Laws with Signing Statements
- Article XXVII - Failing to Comply with Congressional Subpoenas and Instructing Former Employees Not to Comply
- Article XXVIII - Tampering with Free and Fair Elections, Corruption of the Administration of Justice
- Article XXIX - Conspiracy to Violate the Voting Rights Act of 1965
- Article XXX - Misleading Congress and the American People in an Attempt to Destroy Medicare
- Article XXXI - Katrina: Failure to Plan for the Predicted Disaster of Hurricane Katrina, Failure to Respond to a Civil Emergency
- Article XXXII - Misleading Congress and the American People, Systematically Undermining Efforts to Address Global Climate Change<----------- (who cares about this one)
- Article XXXIII - Repeatedly Ignored and Failed to Respond to High Level Intelligence Warnings of Planned Terrorist Attacks in the US, Prior to 911.
- Article XXXIV - Obstruction of the Investigation into the Attacks of September 11, 2001
- Article XXXV - Endangering the Health of 911 First Responders
CrackerJax
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Nice hatchet job, but ur ignoring the point. EVERYONE at the time thought Iraq had WMD'S.
Saddam himself TELEGRAPHED this info. His mistake.
Now when it got tough, a bunch of POL'S RAN for political cover. Those are not leaders. The leader stuck it out, changed tactics and brought VICTORY to our battlefront, despite the polls and cowardly pol's (Clinton, Kerry, reid, pelosi etc.).
That's leadership.....
That's victory.
Saddam himself TELEGRAPHED this info. His mistake.
Now when it got tough, a bunch of POL'S RAN for political cover. Those are not leaders. The leader stuck it out, changed tactics and brought VICTORY to our battlefront, despite the polls and cowardly pol's (Clinton, Kerry, reid, pelosi etc.).
That's leadership.....
That's victory.
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Keenly
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why did EVERYONE think we had wmds?
we had the president and every fucking news channel in the nation TELLING US they did
a few forged documents and boom people are frightened into war
some how thats all ok though
CrackerJax
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Because SADDAM said so... I've already said as much.
We didn't make it up ... he did.
his mistake, not ours.
We didn't make it up ... he did.
his mistake, not ours.
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Keenly
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oops, we invaded, our bad
looks like all you had was a few beat up tanks some aircraft and a lot of ak's
medicineman
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This is such old news. Bush, cheney, and the Neo-cons made up all the crap and with the help of the "news" channels spoon fed us the lies and proceeded to war, Damn the truth, full speed ahead.
MM you are wrong. You know not of what you speak.
The intel on the ground provided by the Iraqis and Saddam was the their were weapons of Mass destruction. Now if that intel was wrong then its not The Pres or the VP fault. Its just bad intel. Having served in the First GUlf war I can tell you that we go hit with NERVE AGENT on several occasions. We also had intel that he and a missle that would hit Israel, and it did. Forgot about that didn't ya. However, there were a lot more reasons to invade than WMD. How quickly we forget about the 1,000,000 plus women and children that Saddam Killed buried in the desert.
But hey lets let Obama go over there and make peace with them and bow to the Iranian Pres. SAD....
CrackerJax
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Ur a bit thick aren't you.
Saddam made the mistake, we didn't.
We freed 50 million ppl, and gave them a chance at self government.
Two things you already take for granted.
The fooling was done by Saddam, and he paid the price for it.
Kind of why Khadafi gave up his nuke program..... he knew he was over the line and the USA was nearby and NOT in the mood to project weakness (like we are doing right now).
jrh72582
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Joseph Smith clearly said they DIDN'T have WMD'S! And he was in a position to know. In fact, Bush was so pissed that Smith exposed his lie that he had his wife's name - Valerie Plame (a spy for the US) - leaked to the public, endangering her. So I claim the opposite. The public was convinced of Bush's lies - but Bush, Cheney, and Rove knew the whole WMD story was bullshit. They knew it.
medicineman
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Wavels says" Teabaggers rule. Right from the horses mouth;
"Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll coming out later today".
You mean the Rupert Murdoch press? I'll bet it is all over Fox news also. Teabaggers popular, LOL, yeah Buddy.
"Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll coming out later today".
You mean the Rupert Murdoch press? I'll bet it is all over Fox news also. Teabaggers popular, LOL, yeah Buddy.
crackerboy
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The problem with society today is that everyone thinks that freedom is free. Its not, and some of the leaders of these countries are brutal and ruthless. There main goal is world dominance. Im not saying that the USA is perfect. we definitely have our own problems. But sometimes it is necessary to take people like Sadom out. Sadom and Iran would take us out in a heart beet. BY the way I am conservative but not republican. We should all be independent. Not everything is left or right. Look at the Marijuana laws. they are being pushed by liberals. On that subject I agree with them.
medicineman
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I guess I'm a little thick also Jax, Sadam lied, Bush and Co. lied and 4300+ Servicemen and women have lost their lives, ++100,000+++ Iraqis are dead as a doornail from this unnecessary action. Want to talk about the loss in treasure?? Yeah, a great service was done in this instance, boy, for a self proclaimed genious, you are really stuck on stupid.