Hermaphrodites Hermies Help PLEASE!!!!

[aleester]

Hey guys,
I had a question about hermies. I am 32 days into flowering some white widow. Out of 7 plants, all of them started off female. Then like 3 weeks into flowering, one of the plant's hairs started turning red. Now, after over 4 weeks into flowering, 3/4 of the hairs are red on that one plant, and there are early immature seeds everywhere on the lower part of the plant. I know I should throw away the hermie, but WHY? I dont see any pollen stamen, all I see are seeds, and I thought seeds DO NOT produce pollen, so why does everyone say to throw a hermie away immediately? Will the hermie pollinate other female plants nearby? If so, how does it pollinate them with just seeds and no pollen stamen? Is there any condition in which it would be OK to keep the hermie and not risk the other plants?

Thanks everyone
Andrew

 

[crazy-mental]

is they any like tear things, growing on the stems. growing under the buds, if so pull one off. and inside the pist. tear looking thing, they should be a tiny, pin prick, of an unformed seed, has your so called hermies got any of these things, were your seeds fem/normal. i think w.w are very prone to the hermie trait. any pics?. ive had these problems b4 a lot with venus and thats much like ww.

 

[aleester]

yea, I already tested it, and the tear-drop seedlets are there, and without a doubt, it is a hermie. I dont have a pic, but you can take my word for it that this is definetely a hermie. and also, yes, they were feminized seeds, which i now have mixed feelings about. but again, what im wondering is why i have to get rid of a hermie if all i see are seeds (NO pollen stamen yet)...... if only seeds are present, how is this risking the other nearby plants from changing sex? i just dont get it, i thought only pollen could fertilize a female plant, not seeds!

 

[paddy510]

you must have some pollen in there somewhere if youve got seeds forming.
you might have got only a couple of male flowers on the plant and theyve opened and fallen off without you noticing them.
are you 100% sure what you see are seeds?

 

[crazy-mental]

be cause in a week or two it will turn every plant hermie, and every clone you then take will be.
when i started to grow i got 4 venus clones grew them 2 foot then put into 12/12. i didnt know they were hermie then, cos, i didnt even know what a hermie was, till my plant looked like a female but was growing seeds, so i finished growing them, 13/weeks 12/12 and millions of seeds and if you smoke any unformed seeds they give you bad headace. hermies infect your whole grow, if i was you id just sling them in the bin . honesly i would. not worth the time and stress.
where did you get the seeds. what var. where from. there not niv. are they. but w.w are easy to turn hermie. if yous starting out get some sk#1 or fem ver. skunk#11. they are good to start out with, and a lot easyer to grow. i got 5 for about £20 fem.

 

[crazy-mental]

and if you dont know what your looking for the pollen is hard to spot.
how many plants have you got and how many are man bitches.

 

[fdd2blk]

are they actually seeds or just swollen calyxes?

 

[aleester]

i am sure they are seeds, when I pick a piece of the bud you can peel a coating off to reveal a poppy-seed-sized green immature seed. also, why would that one plant happen to have red hairs like a month early, and all the others are still white hairs?
Anyway, why must there be pollen present? I thought when females turn hermie, its because they see a change in the conditions, and needs to "fertilize" itself, and will develop seeds inside the pods. Does there have to be pollen there FIRST before seeds can develop or something?

 

[aleester]

yea these seeds are fem w.w. from dutch passion. i guess ill have to chuck the plant, its a damn shame cause the leaves were just starting to get real frosty.
i had 7 plants to start with, all 7 were female until this 1 hermie popped up. no other hermies/males as of yet. also, i do know what to look for, i've spotted male pollen stamen before, and i can tell the difference between the pollen sac and the seeds, and this is definetely seeds. i dont think they are swollen calyxes because female calyxes are just plant material. This plant's calyxes has a coating and contains tiny hard green grains, which must be seeds, right?.

 

[paddy510]

if the plant is a hermie then it has both male and female bits, the male bits release pollen to pollinate the female bits which produces seeds.
hermies dont turn other plants hermie they just pollinate the others causing them to produce seeds.

 

[r32]

I have those... just swollen calyx's. If I pluck it off I do have a tiny seed looking bit but I don't think I have a hermie. I am six weeks in flower.

 

[aleester]

can you describe this "tiny seed looking bit" a little more?
also, all the hairs on my suspected hermie turned orange by week 4, that is definetely not supposed to happen unless the sex is changing right?

 

[crazy-mental]

the tiny seed thing is a pin prick sized seed inside the pist. tear looking things on the stem. have you got any of these?. any pics and i cud tell you asap.

I have those... just swollen calyx's. If I pluck it off I do have a tiny seed looking bit but I don't think I have a hermie. I am six weeks in flower.

normal females dont have then tear pist. thing ecp. with tiny seeds in, promise it a hermie. any pics

if you take a look at some clones i got off this dealer dickhead who doesnt even know what a hermie was. he just thinks he knows what hes doing, he grows in his loft and there loads of lite leaks. i tryed to explane to him but he wouldnt have it . that they was even a thing like a hermie, what does he care he dont even smoke and sells to idiots and kids that will smoke there mother if you sold em it. that why i started to grow my own. rather than giving some dick £10 £20 a day. fuck that. id rather take the risk myself.

anyway in the pics above can you see the pist. tear things on the stalks?.
well if you pull one off and theres a tiny seed in it it means that the plant is hermie or poll. by a male.

 

[fdd2blk]

i am sure they are seeds, when I pick a piece of the bud you can peel a coating off to reveal a poppy-seed-sized green immature seed. also, why would that one plant happen to have red hairs like a month early, and all the others are still white hairs?
Anyway, why must there be pollen present? I thought when females turn hermie, its because they see a change in the conditions, and needs to "fertilize" itself, and will develop seeds inside the pods. Does there have to be pollen there FIRST before seeds can develop or something?

that's the immature UN-pollinated seed. it's not a hermy. there is an "egg" within the calyx. if it gets pollinated it turns into a full grown seed. if it doesn't get pollinated it appears as a small light green/white speck. exactly as you have described.

 

[crazy-mental]

i have only seen this with hermies, and fdd in one of my grows you told me that one of my plants wernt hermie. and it was. and infected all my grow. ive never seen the pist.tear looking things on normal females/un poll. with no male or hermies around. maybe im wrong and know nothing . who am i fdd. could you prove me wrong, fdd. and sho me what you mean?. with a pic or somthing?. please cos i have 100% females now and none, have these. but maybe im wrong?.plants that are hermie have many of these pist. with like poppey seeds in.

 

[fdd2blk]

i too could be wrong. the brown hairs could mean it was pollinated. you need to look very close and see if you can find any single little yellow flowers. they will be in the middle of the buds.


this is a swollen calyx, looks like an onion......

 

[crazy-mental]

i dont think they mean them kind. i think they mean the ones that grow like from fem seed that are def. hermie they like have like pist. under every branch and under were every flower is. they auto grow them because there 100% hermie cos from fem seeds or hermie clone. if you know what i mean. if in doubt chuck the man bitch out. in all aspects of my life.lol

fdd is that pic from a 100% female?. i ment could you show the seedy thing, that wasnt from a hermie, but from a normal plant ?like you said. . i dont think i 100 percent know, i havent been growing lone enuf like yourself, but would also like to know what you ment.
peace

 

[fdd2blk]

i need to see pics.

 

[aleester]

the best way to describe the hermies is like the female pistil with the 2 hairs sticking out, except the hermies tear-shaped pistils are starting to split open like a peapod. showing through is a bit of green immature seed, which i guess from fdd's post is unpollinated.

 

[fdd2blk]

the best way to describe the hermies is like the female pistil with the 2 hairs sticking out, except the hermies tear-shaped pistils are starting to split open like a peapod. showing through is a bit of green immature seed, which i guess from fdd's post is unpollinated.

i have no idea what you have going on.