How Much Koolaid Would A Climate Cook Drink?

medicineman

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Chapter 3. Rising Temperatures and Rising Seas: Reservoirs in the Sky

Snow and ice masses in mountains are nature’s freshwater reservoirs—nature’s way of storing water to feed rivers during the dry season. Now they are being threatened by the rise in temperature. Even a 1-degree rise in temperature in mountainous regions can markedly reduce the share of precipitation falling as snow and boost that coming down as rain. This in turn increases flooding during the rainy season and reduces the snowmelt that flows into rivers.
Beyond this, the glaciers that feed rivers during the dry season are melting. Some have disappeared entirely. Nowhere is the melting of glaciers of more concern than in Asia, where 1.3 billion people depend for their water supply on rivers originating in the Himalayan Mountains and the adjacent Tibet-Qinghai Plateau. 21
India ’s Gangotri Glacier, which supplies 70 percent of the water to the Ganges, is not only melting, it is doing so at an accelerated rate. If this melting continues to accelerate, the Gangotri’s life expectancy will be measured in decades and the Ganges will become a seasonal river, flowing only during the rainy season. For the 407 million Indians and Bangladeshis who live in the Ganges basin, this could be a life-threatening loss of water. 22
In China, which is even more dependent than India on river water for irrigation, the situation is particularly challenging. Chinese government data show the glaciers on the Tibet-Qinghai Plateau that feed both the Yellow and Yangtze Rivers are melting at 7 percent a year. The Yellow River, whose basin is home to 147 million people, could experience a large dry-season flow reduction. The Yangtze River, by far the larger of the two, is threatened by the disappearance of glaciers as well. The basin’s 369 million people rely heavily on rice from fields irrigated with Yangtze River water. 23
Yao Tandong, a leading Chinese glaciologist, predicts that two thirds of China’s glaciers could be gone by 2060. “The full-scale glacier shrinkage in the plateau region,” Yao says, “will eventually lead to an ecological catastrophe.” 24
Other Asian rivers that originate in this rooftop of the world include the Indus, with 178 million people in its basin in India and Pakistan; the Brahmaputra, which flows through Bangladesh; and the Mekong, which waters Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, and Viet Nam. 25
In Africa, Tanzania’s snow-capped Kilimanjaro may soon be snow- and ice-free. Ohio State University glaciologist Lonnie Thompson’s studies of Kilimanjaro show that Africa’s tallest mountain lost 33 percent of its ice field between 1989 and 2000. He projects that its snowcap could disappear entirely by 2015. Nearby Mount Kenya has lost 7 of its 18 glaciers. Local rivers fed by these glaciers are becoming seasonal rivers, generating conflict among the 2 million people who depend on them for water supplies during the dry season. 26
Bernard Francou, research director for the French government’s Institute of Research and Development, believes that 80 percent of South American glaciers will disappear within the next 15 years. For countries like Bolivia, Ecuador, and Peru, which rely on glaciers for water for household and irrigation use, this is not good news. 27
Peru , which stretches some 1,600 kilometers along the vast Andean mountain range and which is home to 70 percent of the earth’s tropical glaciers, is in trouble. Some 22 percent of its glacial endowment, which feeds the many Peruvian rivers that supply water to the cities in the semi-arid coastal regions, has disappeared. Lonnie Thompson reports that the Quelccaya Glacier in southern Peru, which was retreating by 6 meters per year in the 1960s, is now retreating by 60 meters annually. 28
Many of Peru’s farmers irrigate their wheat and potatoes with the river water from these disappearing glaciers. During the dry season, farmers are totally dependent on irrigation water. For Peru’s 28 million people, shrinking glaciers will eventually mean a shrinking food supply. 29
Lima , a city of 7 million people, gets most of its water from three rivers high in the Andes, rivers that are fed partly by glacial melt. While the glaciers are melting, the river flows are above normal, but once they are gone, the river flows will drop sharply, leaving Lima with severe water shortages. 30
In many agricultural regions, snow and ice masses are the leading source of irrigation and drinking water. In the southwestern United States, for instance, the Colorado River—the region’s primary source of irrigation water—depends on snowfields in the Rockies for much of its flow. California, in addition to depending heavily on the Colorado, also relies on snowmelt from the Sierra Nevada in the eastern part of the state. Both the Sierra Nevada and the coastal range supply irrigation water to California’s Central Valley, the world’s fruit and vegetable basket. 31
Preliminary results of an analysis of rising temperature effects on three major river systems in the western United States—the Columbia, the Sacramento, and the Colorado—indicate that the winter snow pack in the mountains feeding them will be dramatically reduced and that winter rainfall and flooding will increase. 32
With a business-as-usual energy policy, global climate models project a 70-percent reduction in the amount of snow pack for the western United States by mid-century. A detailed study of the Yakima River Valley, a vast fruit-growing region in Washington state, conducted by the U.S. Department of Energy’s Pacific Northwest National Laboratory shows progressively heavier harvest losses as the snow pack shrinks, reducing irrigation water flows. 33
Agriculture in the Central Asian countries of Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan depends heavily on snowmelt from the Hindu Kush, Pamir, and Tien Shan mountain ranges for irrigation water. Nearby Iran gets much of its water from the snowmelt in the 5,700-meter-high Alborz Mountains between Tehran and the Caspian Sea. 34
The snow and ice masses in the world’s leading mountain ranges and the water they store are taken for granted simply because they have been there since before agriculture began. Now that is changing. If we continue raising the earth’s temperature, we risk losing the reservoirs in the sky on which cities and farmers depend.

http://www.earth-policy.org/index.php?/books/pb3/PB3ch3_ss4
 

kronic1989

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now your just trolling

you have posted no evidence backing up what your coming in here spewing all over everyone

then telling us we are wrong?


right... :roll:
Here you go "spewing all over everyone"

Another pathetic attempt.....
Get a life buddy. Step off your high stool.

Im not going to waste my time copying and pasting anything in here for you to just fuckin nit pick it. You can easily find the information yourself just by looking up desalination.


Anyways, I dont play the left right, you jack me ill jack you shit. SO stuff it guys. peaceeeeeee
 

SmokeyMcChokey

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Rain and snow, mostly snowpack. Snowpack has been decreasing for years. Predictions are around 2050 the snowpack and glacial melt will be done. Adios water in the ganges except in the rainy season. The other 6 months, dry as a bone.
isnt that a part of your "Global Warming", a proliferation of weather activities. Aka more snow in cold parts, more rain in others, and increased oceanic influence on stronger storm systems? Or have i been misinformed yet again?
 

SmokeyMcChokey

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oh and MM good info. all i can say about that is were those glaciers alwasy there? or is it just another product of the earths cyclical weather patterns? Also people will adapt new technologies to store clean water just as they have in the past. hey its kinda like Mother Earths stimulus package hahahaha
 

Johnnyorganic

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Bump, no refutation of my post? I guess I'm right again,. LOL.
As you allowed only eight minutes between posts to allow us to digest your cut and paste, I would say you are wrong again.

Those predictions are based on rising global temperatures - something that has not occurred since 1998. For example:

Preliminary results of an analysis of rising temperature effects on three major river systems in the western United States—the Columbia, the Sacramento, and the Colorado—indicate that the winter snow pack in the mountains feeding them will be dramatically reduced and that winter rainfall and flooding will increase.
Furthermore, the Earth Policy Institute is part and parcel of the whole Man Made Climate Change hoax. In other words - discredited.

Nice try though. :dunce:
 
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Illegal Smile

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It's all a total hoax and people by the millions are coming to see that every day. There is no global warming that is not natural, no climate change that is not natural. The only unnatural thing displayed in this thread is the twisted seething minds of the crackpots who apparently just weren't potty trained right.
 

Twiz420

Active Member
Wow this thread is pretty nuts lol, I missed a bunch these past few hours.

so a recap

FACT- Global warming being caused by humans is a hoax

FACT- Pollution is bad

FACT- We have limited 'fresh' water on this big bad mamajama of a planet.

FACT- We can desalinate sea water for human consumption

FACT- People are scared for no apparent reason at all

Honestly if we keep up what we're doing right now, we won't do any harm that the planet can't fix it self or to the point that it will jeopardize it's habitability. The only thing people need to worry about is that the suns gonna cook this heap in the next couple billion years, and we're gonna need to find a new rock to live on. Face it we're humans, we're the most adaptive specie on this planet. So anything we temporarily fuck up, we will find a way around it until earth fixes it.
 
We need to add 'scratch and sniff ' tech to all post images. Trolls equal bad breath. Hi-jackers , alcohal breath. Wise comments and infomation, a fresh scent. People who are stuck on stupid, dirty diapers. And so on.

And how much Kollaid can a Koolaid Kook drink... look around. There theory Global warming has been blown apart and the still cling to a lie. Never becomeing able or willing to accept the truth when the truth is presented and backed up with facts. They have drown in their own fecal matter.
 

ViRedd

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The Global Warming hoax is all about people control ... no different from Marxist ideology. The earth goes through natural, cyclical changes. So how does taxing energy and putting each citizen into a little box of rules change that?

Med-'O-Mao ... your answer please ...
 

SmokeyMcChokey

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alcohal breath. Wise comments and infomation, a fresh scent. People who are stuck on stupid, dirty diapers. And so on.

And how much Kollaid can a Koolaid Kook drink... look around. There theory Global warming has been blown apart and the still cling to a lie. Never becomeing able or willing to accept the truth when the truth is presented and backed up with facts. They have drown in their own fecal matter.
i take offense to that. Even at 11 am it still 5 o'clock somewhere! Just cuz im a drunk doesnt mean i dont hae the COMMON SENSE to realize when im being lied to. That just comes from experience and the will to decide for yourself. not a common trait these days...
 

Operation 420

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I seriously think the Kool Aid drinkers are really hypnotized some how. Like they went through some mental programming that doesn't enable them to decipher fact from fiction. Or use common sense for that matter. It's like living among zombies.:-?

Anyhow, no sweat off my back. More people are waking up everyday thankfully. Gonna go blaze some Aurora B. /peace :weed:
 

jeff f

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I seriously think the Kool Aid drinkers are really hypnotized some how. Like they went through some mental programming that doesn't enable them to decipher fact from fiction. Or use common sense for that matter. It's like living among zombies.:-?

Anyhow, no sweat off my back. More people are waking up everyday thankfully. Gonna go blaze some Aurora B. /peace :weed:
peace, kf2 ;-)
 
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Illegal Smile

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so where are all the scientists who deny climate change??? there are no real ones. this thread is a big load of conservative bullshit. why do all these tools congregate on a pot growing site?!


[FONT=times new roman,times]Israel: Dr. Nathan Paldor, Professor of Dynamical Meteorology and Physical Oceanography at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem has authored almost 70 peer-reviewed studies and won several awards. “First, temperature changes, as well as rates of temperature changes (both increase and decrease) of magnitudes similar to that reported by IPCC to have occurred since the Industrial revolution (about 0.8C in 150 years or even 0.4C in the last 35 years) have occurred in Earth's climatic history. There's nothing special about the recent rise!” [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]Russia: Russian scientist Dr. Oleg Sorochtin of the Institute of Oceanology at the Russian Academy of Sciences has authored more than 300 studies, nine books, and a 2006 paper titled “The Evolution and the Prediction of Global Climate Changes on Earth.” “Even if the concentration of ‘greenhouse gases’ double man would not perceive the [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]temperature impact,” Sorochtin wrote. (Note: Name also sometimes translated to spell Sorokhtin)[/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]Spain: Anton Uriarte, a professor of Physical Geography at the University of the Basque Country in Spain and author of a book on the paleoclimate, rejected man-made climate fears in 2007. “There's no need to be worried. It's very interesting to study [climate change], but there's no need to be worried,” Uriate wrote. [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]Netherlands: Atmospheric scientist Dr. Hendrik Tennekes, a scientific pioneer in the development of numerical weather prediction and former director of research at The Netherlands' Royal National Meteorological Institute, and an internationally recognized expert in atmospheric boundary layer processes, “I find the Doomsday picture Al Gore is painting – a six-meter sea level rise, fifteen times the IPCC number – entirely without merit,” Tennekes wrote. “I protest vigorously the idea that the climate reacts like a home heating system to a changed setting of the thermostat: just turn the dial, and the desired temperature will soon be reached." [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]Brazil: Chief Meteorologist Eugenio Hackbart of the MetSul Meteorologia Weather Center in Sao Leopoldo – Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil declared himself a skeptic. “The media is promoting an unprecedented hyping related to global warming. The media and many scientists are ignoring very important facts that point to a natural variation in the climate system as the cause of the recent global warming,” Hackbart wrote on May 30, 2007. [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]France: Climatologist Dr. Marcel Leroux, former professor at Université Jean Moulin and director of the Laboratory of Climatology, Risks, and Environment in Lyon, is a climate skeptic. Leroux wrote a 2005 book titled Global Warming – Myth or Reality? - The Erring Ways of Climatology. “Day after day, the same mantra - that ‘the Earth is warming up’ - is churned out in all its forms. As ‘the ice melts’ and ‘sea level rises,’ the Apocalypse looms ever nearer! Without realizing it, or perhaps without wishing to, the average citizen in bamboozled, lobotomized, lulled into mindless ac*ceptance. ... Non-believers in the greenhouse scenario are in the position of those long ago who doubted the existence of God ... fortunately for them, the Inquisition is no longer with us!” [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]Norway: Geologist/Geochemist Dr. Tom V. Segalstad, a professor and head of the Geological Museum at the University of Oslo and formerly an expert reviewer with the UN IPCC: “It is a search for a mythical CO2 sink to explain an immeasurable CO2 lifetime to fit a hypothetical CO2 computer model that purports to show that an impossible amount of fossil fuel burning is heating the atmosphere. It is all a fiction.” [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]Finland: Dr. Boris Winterhalter, retired Senior Marine Researcher of the Geological Survey of Finland and former professor of marine geology at University of Helsinki, criticized the media for what he considered its alarming climate coverage. “The effect of solar winds on cosmic radiation has just recently been established and, furthermore, there seems to be a good correlation between cloudiness and variations in the intensity of cosmic radiation. Here we have a mechanism which is a far better explanation to variations in global climate than the attempts by IPCC to blame it all on anthropogenic input of greenhouse gases."[/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]Germany: Paleoclimate expert Augusto Mangini of the University of Heidelberg in Germany, criticized the UN IPCC summary. “I consider the part of the IPCC report, which I can really judge as an expert, i.e. the reconstruction of the paleoclimate, wrong,” Mangini noted in an April 5, 2007 article. He added: “The earth will not die.” [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]Canada: IPCC 2007 Expert Reviewer Madhav Khandekar, a Ph.D meteorologist, a scientist with the Natural Resources Stewardship Project who has over 45 years experience in climatology, meteorology and oceanography, and who has published nearly 100 papers, reports, book reviews and a book on Ocean Wave Analysis and Modeling: “To my dismay, IPCC authors ignored all my comments and suggestions for major changes in the FOD (First Order Draft) and sent me the SOD (Second Order Draft) with essentially the same text as the FOD. None of the authors of the chapter bothered to directly communicate with me (or with other expert reviewers with whom I communicate on a regular basis) on many issues that were raised in my review. This is not an acceptable scientific review process.” [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]Czech Republic: Czech-born U.S. climatologist Dr. George Kukla, a research scientist with the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University, expressed climate skepticism in 2007. “The only thing to worry about is the damage that can be done by worrying. Why are some scientists worried? Perhaps because they feel that to stop worrying may mean to stop being paid,” Kukla told Gelf Magazine on April 24, 2007. [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]India: One of India's leading geologists, B.P. Radhakrishna, President of the Geological Society of India, expressed climate skepticism in 2007. “We appear to be overplaying this global warming issue as global warming is nothing new. It has happened in the past, not once but several times, giving rise to glacial-interglacial cycles.” [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]USA: Climatologist Robert Durrenberger, past president of the American Association of State Climatologists, and one of the climatologists who gathered at Woods Hole to review the National Climate Program Plan in July, 1979: “Al Gore brought me back to the battle and prompted me to do renewed research in the field of climatology. And because of all the misinformation that Gore and his army have been spreading about climate change I have decided that ‘real’ climatologists should try to help the public understand the nature of the problem.” [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]Italy: Internationally renowned scientist Dr. Antonio Zichichi, president of the World Federation of Scientists and a retired Professor of Advanced Physics at the University of Bologna in Italy, who has published over 800 scientific papers: “Significant new peer-reviewed research has cast even more doubt on the hypothesis of dangerous human-caused global warming." [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]New Zealand: IPCC reviewer and climate researcher and scientist Dr. Vincent Gray, an expert reviewer on every single draft of the IPCC reports going back to 1990 and author of The Greenhouse Delusion: A Critique of "Climate Change 2001: “The [IPCC] ‘Summary for Policymakers’ might get a few readers, but the main purpose of the report is to provide a spurious scientific backup for the absurd claims of the worldwide environmentalist lobby that it has been established scientifically that increases in carbon dioxide are harmful to the climate. It just does not matter that this ain't so.” [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]South Africa: Dr. Kelvin Kemm, formerly a scientist at South Africa’s Atomic Energy Corporation who holds degrees in nuclear physics and mathematics: “The global-warming mania continues with more and more hype and less and less thinking. With religious zeal, people look for issues or events to blame on global warming.” [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]Poland: Physicist Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski, Chairman of the Central Laboratory for the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Radiological Protection in Warsaw: “We thus find ourselves in the situation that the entire theory of man-made global warming—with its repercussions in science, and its important consequences for politics and the global economy—is based on ice core studies that provided a false picture of the atmospheric CO2 levels.” [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]Australia: Prize-wining Geologist Dr. Ian Plimer, a professor of Earth and Environmental Sciences at the University of Adelaide in Australia: "There is new work emerging even in the last few weeks that shows we can have a very close correlation between the temperatures of the Earth and supernova and solar radiation.” [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]Britain: Dr. Richard Courtney, a UN IPCC expert reviewer and a UK-based climate and atmospheric science consultant: “To date, no convincing evidence for AGW (anthropogenic global warming) has been discovered. And recent global climate behavior is not consistent with AGW model predictions.” [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]China: Chinese Scientists Say C02 Impact on Warming May Be ‘Excessively Exaggerated’ – Scientists Lin Zhen-Shan’s and Sun Xian’s 2007 study published in the peer-reviewed journal Meteorology and Atmospheric Physics: "Although the CO2 greenhouse effect on global climate change is unsuspicious, it could have been excessively exaggerated." Their study asserted that "it is high time to reconsider the trend of global climate change.” [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]Denmark: Space physicist Dr. Eigil Friis-Christensen is the director of the Danish National Space Centre, a member of the space research advisory committee of the Swedish [FONT=times new roman,times]National Space Board, a member of a NASA working group, and a member of the European Space Agency who has authored or co-authored around 100 peer-reviewed papers and chairs the Institute of Space Physics: “[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]The sun is the source of the energy that causes the motion of the atmosphere and thereby controls weather and climate. Any change in the energy from the sun received at the Earth’s surface will therefore affect climate.” [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times][FONT=times new roman,times]Belgium: Climate scientist Luc Debontridder of the Belgium Weather Institute’s Royal Meteorological Institute (RMI) co-authored a study in August 2007 which dismissed a decisive role of CO2 in global warming: "CO2 is not the big bogeyman of climate change and global warming. “Not CO2, but water vapor is the most important greenhouse gas. It is responsible[/FONT] for at least 75 % of the greenhouse effect. This is a simple scientific fact, but Al Gore's movie has hyped CO2 so much that nobody seems to take note of it.” [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]Sweden: Geologist Dr. Wibjorn Karlen, professor emeritus of the Department of Physical Geography and Quaternary Geology at Stockholm University, critiqued the Associated Press for hyping promoting climate fears in 2007. “Another of these hysterical views of our climate. Newspapers should think about the damage they are doing to many persons, particularly young kids, by spreading the exaggerated views of a human impact on climate.” [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]USA: Dr. David Wojick is a UN IPCC expert reviewer, who earned his PhD in Philosophy of Science and co-founded the Department of Engineering and Public Policy at Carnegie-Mellon University: “In point of fact, the hypothesis that solar variability and not human activity is warming the oceans goes a long way to explain the puzzling idea that the Earth's surface may be warming while the atmosphere is not. The GHG (greenhouse gas) hypothesis does not do this.” Wojick added: “The public is not well served by this constant drumbeat of false alarms fed by computer models manipulated by advocates.” [/FONT]
 
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Illegal Smile

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there are 10000 times more scientists who support the climate change theory than who dont. the ones who dont are all half ass wannabe corrupt "scientists" with no credibility whove been bribed by corporations and others who want to keep polluting.
Prove it. List them.
 

Resin225

Active Member
Owner and weedweed. SIGH----- IT'S OVER, MMMMMMK. THE TRUTH HAS COME OUT. THE SCIENTISTS WERE CHANGING DATA THEY PUT INTO THE COMPUTER MODELS TO MAKE THE ANSWER WHAT THEY WANTED.

IT- IS/WAS-THE- BIGGEST-CON-EVER. PERIOD.

OH by the way, CLIMITOLOGISTS are the ones you want to listen to. Try reading from ones who don't have an "agenda".
discount ANY scientist who says that Co2 causes temp rise. That is a lie.
go troll somewhere else.
Please list the corporation who are against "the fraud" known as mmgw. Most stand to make tons of money off of this. General electric may be fucked because of this..

Man I swear aliens could land and tell us the secrets of the universe and some people would still say it was a conservative conspiracy.
Thanks for the laughs tho. you guys are some funny motherfuckers. Moonbats, gotta lovem.
 

Resin225

Active Member
Look at the mess the tree huggers made the last time. I remember getting harassed by people back in the 80's for using paper instead of plastic bags. FUCK PLASTIC. There is a huge ball of it in the ocean. The libs can go clean that up too.

CFL bulbs. Another future problem waiting to happen.
 
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