Ferts!

Toss

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I know this might be the wrong area to post in. I posted it in general discussion, but to no avail. Please help advance area! Questions: What would happen if you used 15-15-15 on flowering plants? What will that the extra N do to the plants? If I can use it, can it be used till harvesting? Can I use hydro-prills (Dry Fert.) on indoor grows? Any help please!
 

Toss

Active Member
I went through everything that came back for the UB search. Nothing that applies for what I need to know. I was not trying to be a dick. Just mad that I don't know the answer to my question.
 

lightmonger

Active Member
... Did you read my question? and then read this? please gtfo.

Uncle Ben said:
You may have heard that too much N can inhibit flowering. No question about it, exclusive use of a plant food that is rich in N such as blood meal, a 5-1-1 blend, or ammonium nitrate/sulfate may inhibit flowering especially if the phosphorous level is low, but most balanced blends have sufficient amount of P to do the job. The question is - "how much P is enough to support a good flowering response and still retain my leaves?"
Did you even read the first post of the link I gave you?
 

lightmonger

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To sum it up...

Will a 15-15-15 or 1-1-1 get you though to harvest? In a word, yes, but at what cost? You may experience reduced yield and/or an extended flower period.

Some use little to no N for flower, and say it is normal for leaves to yellow toward the end. In fact, it is not normal. You want to keep your leaves green throughout the plants life. Abundant foliage is what makes big buds. So, you do need some N, but not at the expense of the P or K.

You see, it's not about the individual numbers as much as it its the ratio between the numbers.

You would be better off using a good 1-3-2, or close to it, for flowering.

This is all assuming your growing in soil and that your fert has the correct micros.
 

Toss

Active Member
To sum it up...

Will a 15-15-15 or 1-1-1 get you though to harvest? In a word, yes, but at what cost? You may experience reduced yield and/or an extended flower period.

Some use little to no N for flower, and say it is normal for leaves to yellow toward the end. In fact, it is not normal. You want to keep your leaves green throughout the plants life. Abundant foliage is what makes big buds. So, you do need some N, but not at the expense of the P or K.

You see, it's not about the individual numbers as much as it its the ratio between the numbers.

You would be better off using a good 1-3-2, or close to it, for flowering.

This is all assuming your growing in soil and that your fert has the correct micros.
Okay, I am growing in soil. That answer the question of it being used for flowering. Now remember it's a two part question. It being dry and it being "prills", can it be used it soil? if so how much? there is no dosage on the bag because it's for commercial use. Not that you cannot use it on your plants. Commercial use as in used for bigger application to a bigger area of grow.
 

lightmonger

Active Member
Without the proper micros your going to have deficiencies.

I'm not a nutrient, or even a weed expert, but my opinion would be that scratching dry nutes into the soil would give you a slower, more long term release. Thats not necessarily a bad thing, as long as your providing a complete diet.

If your determined to use the nutes you have, I would suggest doing a little research on your particular product. You'll need to know whats missing and suppliment it. You should also know the recomended application, and start with about 1/4 of that.
 

Toss

Active Member
Without the proper micros your going to have deficiencies.

I'm not a nutrient, or even a weed expert, but my opinion would be that scratching dry nutes into the soil would give you a slower, more long term release. Thats not necessarily a bad thing, as long as your providing a complete diet.

If your determined to use the nutes you have, I would suggest doing a little research on your particular product. You'll need to know whats missing and suppliment it. You should also know the recomended application, and start with about 1/4 of that.
You need to quit your assumptions that I did not do my research. They don't have an application chart on their website. Usually hydro prills that are bought for commercial application is feed through a feeder. Which spreads it with a spinning "sling" contraption, so that every prill is spread evenly through out the land, spreaded by a slow moving tractor. Next on the line junior is Micro nutes, they can be bought. Were you thinking I did not know about micro nutes? I knew enough to tell you that it's not in there. I didn't even ask a question about micro nutes. I guess I'll lab rat that shit. I'll post a journal unless someone can show me a link! I only searched for UB posts. I'll try searching, but I'm pretty sure it's been archived somewhere.....
 

lightmonger

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You need to quit your assumptions that I did not do my research. They don't have an application chart on their website. Usually hydro prills that are bought for commercial application is feed through a feeder. Which spreads it with a spinning "sling" contraption, so that every prill is spread evenly through out the land, spreaded by a slow moving tractor. Next on the line junior is Micro nutes, they can be bought. Were you thinking I did not know about micro nutes? I knew enough to tell you that it's not in there. I didn't even ask a question about micro nutes. I guess I'll lab rat that shit. I'll post a journal unless someone can show me a link! I only searched for UB posts. I'll try searching, but I'm pretty sure it's been archived somewhere.....

Thank you for the education on prills, though I didn't need it, cause I'm not using them.

You need to stop being so defensive with someone who is trying to help you.

You, my friend, are the one who posted the questions, which implied that you had limited knowledge on the subject.
 

riddleme

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As an avid reader of everything UB post, I am aware of the ferts he uses (I use them now as well) the veg (general purpose) is a 20-20-20
and the bloom is 10-30-20,,,,,now get this they only cost $4.99 each (in the 8oz package) They also have other "stuff" in them
info here
http://www.jacksclassic.com/index.html

and per UB the second consideration is DynaGro which includes the 16 basic nutes that are needed by all plants (small bottles are $12.99 each)
 
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