JigFresh's Grow #2 : Vertical Scrog - closet diy dwc - 650w - Headband + Casey Jones
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Iamtreehigh
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Looking bad ass bro. I'm sure the pics don't do it justice.
renegadereefer
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Glad I could be of some help! If idda known you were still looking for one I would have picked one up and sent it to you! Anyhow, keep me posted on wether or not it works! Everything looks amazing!
greenfirekilla420
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Dude wow the big one is going crazy. I say close to a half pound per plant minimum. Those plants are huge bro.
jigfresh
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Mc Lovin.... Josh b.... welcome. I knew someone was missing. No worries about being late... the good stuff is jus getting going now.Looks awesome man
Tahoe, Treehigh, New Growth.... thanks for the love. Totally makes the plants grow better. I appreciate it, really helping the situation.
Renegade... Thank you for the offer. I didn't know you were cool like that. Now I do.
GreenFire.... bro... I would be so stoked with 8 zips per. Thanks for 'weighing in' haha. I bet I could double whatever I get next grow... once I know what's going on.
HA... I'm already looking forward to the next. I think I'm gonna get someones caregiver rights and really get things going. Maybe even veg some girls all winter to put in a greenhouse next year.
Ok ok... vert screen, concentrate. Alright. I'm good.
Guys... do you think I should trim more off. I am a little worried about it getting too thick, and moldy. Or not great use of light. I know its hard by pics and even harder becuase this is a totally different way of growing, but if there are any opinions I'll take them.
And if you need more pics to offer an opinion let me know... I'll take them.
greenfirekilla420
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IMO opinion I would only ONLY trim the very very small lower growth just popping out. The bigger branches will still make for decent nugs. You don't want to hinder yeild.Mc Lovin.... Josh b.... welcome. I knew someone was missing. No worries about being late... the good stuff is jus getting going now.
Tahoe, Treehigh, New Growth.... thanks for the love. Totally makes the plants grow better. I appreciate it, really helping the situation.
Renegade... Thank you for the offer. I didn't know you were cool like that. Now I do.
GreenFire.... bro... I would be so stoked with 8 zips per. Thanks for 'weighing in' haha. I bet I could double whatever I get next grow... once I know what's going on.
HA... I'm already looking forward to the next. I think I'm gonna get someones caregiver rights and really get things going. Maybe even veg some girls all winter to put in a greenhouse next year.
Ok ok... vert screen, concentrate. Alright. I'm good.
Guys... do you think I should trim more off. I am a little worried about it getting too thick, and moldy. Or not great use of light. I know its hard by pics and even harder becuase this is a totally different way of growing, but if there are any opinions I'll take them.
And if you need more pics to offer an opinion let me know... I'll take them.
#1Raiderfan420
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This thing looks likte a hedge, just rediculious. I rate it five fans-
DST
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Hey Jig, what did you use as your cool tubes? I looked at the first few pages again but couldn't find a description.
I have been struggling with the temps in my cupboard (I have gone from 400-600w but didn't think I would see such an increase (mid twenties b4, now up to 30 degree C - which is ehm - 86f) I don't know if it is because the bulb is hanging vertically or not...?
p.s I'll second Raiderfan420 on that, looks like a bloody bush, I don't want to stop by your journal and find you have trimmed it into the shape of a poodle...
DST
I have been struggling with the temps in my cupboard (I have gone from 400-600w but didn't think I would see such an increase (mid twenties b4, now up to 30 degree C - which is ehm - 86f) I don't know if it is because the bulb is hanging vertically or not...?
p.s I'll second Raiderfan420 on that, looks like a bloody bush, I don't want to stop by your journal and find you have trimmed it into the shape of a poodle...
DST
DaveTheNewbie
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this isn't a hijack, but a question / observation
your screen is outside your plants, and you tie your plants to the screen to stop the growing away from the screen
my screen is inside the plants, and the plants grow into it. i have to keep pulling them outside of it
do you have any thoughts on the differences?
here is an old piccie : https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/606593d1257230495-vertical-growing-vertscrog.jpg
your screen is outside your plants, and you tie your plants to the screen to stop the growing away from the screen
my screen is inside the plants, and the plants grow into it. i have to keep pulling them outside of it
do you have any thoughts on the differences?
here is an old piccie : https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/606593d1257230495-vertical-growing-vertscrog.jpg
jigfresh
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Thanks Raiderfan. DST: I won't be trimming any more off. We are riding with what we got.
Here's the old light constuction:
https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/161300-batwing-reflector-cool-tube-40-a-2.html#post2315758
What up dave.... you are allowed to ask questions here. As long as they aren't "Why are you such an idoit", haha.
I haven't thought about the infront of/ behind the screen too much as for positives and negatives.
The reason I'm doing it this way, is because I physically can't reach behind the screens. My closet is too small to have things different really. So that's why I tie back.
One think I do think about vert screens is that ties are needed. In my flat screen, the plants would want to grow up, so I could use the screen to hold them back. With the vert they want to grow both up and into the light, so I find the ties useful to not only hold them 'back' from the light, but to 'adjust' their vertical growth to fan it out how I like.
Also Dave... I am watching a grow like your's over on VerticalGreen.org. Maybe it's you. If not, you might want to check things out there.
Here's the old light constuction:
https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/161300-batwing-reflector-cool-tube-40-a-2.html#post2315758
What up dave.... you are allowed to ask questions here. As long as they aren't "Why are you such an idoit", haha.
I haven't thought about the infront of/ behind the screen too much as for positives and negatives.
The reason I'm doing it this way, is because I physically can't reach behind the screens. My closet is too small to have things different really. So that's why I tie back.
One think I do think about vert screens is that ties are needed. In my flat screen, the plants would want to grow up, so I could use the screen to hold them back. With the vert they want to grow both up and into the light, so I find the ties useful to not only hold them 'back' from the light, but to 'adjust' their vertical growth to fan it out how I like.
Also Dave... I am watching a grow like your's over on VerticalGreen.org. Maybe it's you. If not, you might want to check things out there.
DaveTheNewbie
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nope not me, but ill pop over and take a look
jigfresh
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Fishin!... Welcome. So glad to see your name bud. If you have been here already forgive me.
So... my 250 just arrived. I'm gonna try to get it in and lit so I can show you guys pics.
I am planning on having the 400w be HPS though out the end of the grow. The 250w I was thinking of running it like this:
week 2-3 HPS
week 4-7 MH
week 8-Finish HPS
I'm not exactly sure of the reasoning... I guess HPS makes for fatter nugs, so that's why I figured I'd have it on near the end when the calyxes swell. I also guess that MH makes for more trichs, so that's why I have it in the middle when most of the trichs come marching in.
Any opinions on this?
I'll hope to have pics tonight. I'm stoked.
I'm also going to build platforms for the soil plants to get them more in the light and get them off the ground. I still need bigger fans and need a place to put them.
So... my 250 just arrived. I'm gonna try to get it in and lit so I can show you guys pics.
I am planning on having the 400w be HPS though out the end of the grow. The 250w I was thinking of running it like this:
week 2-3 HPS
week 4-7 MH
week 8-Finish HPS
I'm not exactly sure of the reasoning... I guess HPS makes for fatter nugs, so that's why I figured I'd have it on near the end when the calyxes swell. I also guess that MH makes for more trichs, so that's why I have it in the middle when most of the trichs come marching in.
Any opinions on this?
I'll hope to have pics tonight. I'm stoked.
I'm also going to build platforms for the soil plants to get them more in the light and get them off the ground. I still need bigger fans and need a place to put them.
Fred Flintstoner
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That is very interesting Jig. I have only learned of MH for Veg and HPS for Flowering just due to classic spectrum difference of MH for Leaves and HPS for Buds and Stems. Ideally both at the same time if one can afford to?Fishin!... Welcome. So glad to see your name bud. If you have been here already forgive me.
So... my 250 just arrived. I'm gonna try to get it in and lit so I can show you guys pics.
I am planning on having the 400w be HPS though out the end of the grow. The 250w I was thinking of running it like this:
week 2-3 HPS
week 4-7 MH
week 8-Finish HPS
I'm not exactly sure of the reasoning... I guess HPS makes for fatter nugs, so that's why I figured I'd have it on near the end when the calyxes swell. I also guess that MH makes for more trichs, so that's why I have it in the middle when most of the trichs come marching in.
Any opinions on this?
I'll hope to have pics tonight. I'm stoked.
I'm also going to build platforms for the soil plants to get them more in the light and get them off the ground. I still need bigger fans and need a place to put them.
Where did you learn of the trichs and MH factor? Would the trichs also come hopping in, instead of marching?
jigfresh
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I got the MH thing from another member on this site: lilmafia. If I am not mistaken another member suscribes to the idea: smokeandcoke. Anyways, lilmafia swears that when plants are flowered under MH they are frostier and tastier than the HPS stuff.That is very interesting Jig. I have only learned of MH for Veg and HPS for Flowering just due to classic spectrum difference of MH for Leaves and HPS for Buds and Stems. Ideally both at the same time if one can afford to?
Where did you learn of the trichs and MH factor? Would the trichs also come hopping in, instead of marching?
The reason I beleive this is from my own experience. I had my dual batwing thing going on, so the plants on the left were getting mostly MH, but the plants on the right were getting mostly HPS. The HPS side was heavier and the MH side was prettier looking. It could just be my imagination, but I thought the side with the MH had more trichs.
One major flaw in my reasoning in regards to my setup is this. The HPS was a 400 the MH a 250. So the HPS nugs being fatter would obviously come from more watts and much more lumens.
Speaking of lights: If using the same wattage... HPS has quite a bit more lumens than MH. I'm not saying anything about this... just an exrta light fact.
DaveTheNewbie
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pretty sure jig is right in his reasoning.
- a) most people cant be bothered swapping lights mid grow
- b) most people want weight more than anything else (cause thats where the money is) (sad but true)
- a) most people cant be bothered swapping lights mid grow
- b) most people want weight more than anything else (cause thats where the money is) (sad but true)
Premo42
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I Think that light cycle is a great idea to try out. My buddy only uses MH and they always look pretty with lots of crystals. HPS always makes them lankier and sometime look unhealthy but still grow more bud. Since your lights are virticle try to use them both maybe.? Being virtical will distribute light better than the first grow.