THELOADEDDRAGON'S Perpetually growing perpetual grow
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raiderman
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a baby wat?,lol.
wonderblunder
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Hey TLD, what would be the optimum size for a flower room with 1k HPS(no mover), and 2 400w Fixtures. How would you position the lights.
theloadeddragon
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1 1000W and 2 400W all HPS?
wonderblunder
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all HPS, I think that will be enough for now. Not digging 1k on a mover, we will see how the yield goes.......
wonderblunder
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If you can beat DGK's buy one get one deal let me know........
theloadeddragon
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1000W in the middle of a rectangle area, both 400W's at apposing Diagnols of the long side of the rectangle, not hanging completely flat horizontal, but the hoods tilted in towards the center for max spread, provided you have reflective lining of course, without the lining, or white reflective surface, than 1000W in the middle of two 400W, one 400W on each apposing Side of the long side of the rectangle growing area... make sense?
wonderblunder
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Yup, I can handle that. For now, I have a question. I lifed my 1k hps and temporarily put it stationary, and the light coverage was way better all the time than it was on the mover. SHould I leave it stationary?
I am really thinking 1 more 1k right now because I have the money, electricity is an issue. I dont know if My house has places to plug into. And its an condo type deal. Any ideas. my wife is being a nag about this though! ha, cant live with them, cant live withoutem.
I am really thinking 1 more 1k right now because I have the money, electricity is an issue. I dont know if My house has places to plug into. And its an condo type deal. Any ideas. my wife is being a nag about this though! ha, cant live with them, cant live withoutem.
wonderblunder
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Im going to put it stationary right now. Thanks. I may start with 400w fixtures, we will see...
theloadeddragon
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I would stick with the two 400Ws as apposed to adding a 1000W for what you have going on...... is this all on one circuit? Do you have access to the circuit box? do you know what amps the circuit is running on?
wonderblunder
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Hey I answered this in my thread and have a few more questions.......
theloadeddragon
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I am thinking about ditching the Widow Cindy....... depends on how this first set of clones flower
got roots sticking out from a few of the cuttings I took..... trouble is, I don't remember what order I took the cuttings in, and I didn't label them..... lol..... I have them grouped together by strain, just don't know which strain is which..... lol......
Let me try and smoke a bong load see if that helps..... bubble bubble bubble......... cough cough........ bubble bubble bubble..... cough cough....... hmmm...... bubble bubble bubble....... cough cough......
What am I trying to remember? Im hungry, I will try to remember what I am trying to remember after I snack on some fruit n stuff
got roots sticking out from a few of the cuttings I took..... trouble is, I don't remember what order I took the cuttings in, and I didn't label them..... lol..... I have them grouped together by strain, just don't know which strain is which..... lol......
Let me try and smoke a bong load see if that helps..... bubble bubble bubble......... cough cough........ bubble bubble bubble..... cough cough....... hmmm...... bubble bubble bubble....... cough cough......
What am I trying to remember? Im hungry, I will try to remember what I am trying to remember after I snack on some fruit n stuff
lonleysmoka
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LOL it should be bubble bubble bubble bubble...cough cough cough cough that sounds more like it. What is the deciding factor on the widow cindy??
theloadeddragon
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density........ bud structure, plant structure, smell....... one of the two I have in flower actually looks quite nice, they are different phenotypes though..... same as the mother, which I haven't flowered, so the determining factor will be the buds I see on the clones I just took....... if I could just figure out what is what lol......
So basically I am going to take extra Chemo Cindy and Twilight clones to plug the gap if I do toss the Widow Cindy
So basically I am going to take extra Chemo Cindy and Twilight clones to plug the gap if I do toss the Widow Cindy
lonleysmoka
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Just love how detailed you are with everything. Density of the buds? What do you mean by bud structure??
theloadeddragon
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bud structure is in a nutshell:
how many calyxes develop, how quickly, how densely, how triched they are at each stage of development during flowering (chopping flowering cycle into 4 parts ) how many bud sites form, the calyx color, and colour, shape, any abnormalities (such as large castings, deformed calyxes etc.), which way each "bud shoot" goes in which direction and how, uniformity or or randomness or sparseness, color of pistils, pistil age and development, pistil length, stem size, leaf to calyx ratio, bud sizes, how the leaves grow out of the buds......
how many calyxes develop, how quickly, how densely, how triched they are at each stage of development during flowering (chopping flowering cycle into 4 parts
) how many bud sites form, the calyx color, and colour, shape, any abnormalities (such as large castings, deformed calyxes etc.), which way each "bud shoot" goes in which direction and how, uniformity or or randomness or sparseness, color of pistils, pistil age and development, pistil length, stem size, leaf to calyx ratio, bud sizes, how the leaves grow out of the buds......
lonleysmoka
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You have me speechless as usual. 
theloadeddragon
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the WC with the curved stem is showing my least favorite characteristics from C-99...... the other one is showing just the right ones, but a bit too much WW for my taste.... Im hoping the mother I chose falls right in between with the acceptation that she demonstrates the qualities of C-99 that I like, rather than dislike.....
Curved Stem WC phenos:
calyxes are large, but look "Odd" when they first come out, no resin until calyxes are three plus weeks old, there are large gaps between the calyxes themselves (some gaps may fill in others may not, we will see), bud sites are few and far between (but the buds themselves are of a decent size), her pistils are too long and thick for my liking, she has white pistils instead of the pretty pink that I like so much (from C-99), the plant itself is sensitive to ph, but sucks up nutes, causing a couple of these different traits, she does not react well to wind (unlike the C-99 plants that I grew in the past)
Strait Stem WC FIM'ed (three main tops):
Calyxes are slightly smaller than that of her sister, but come in more densely, pistils are still long, but skinnier (which I like), lots of bud sites, reacts well to nutes and ph shifts, vigorous and quick to flower, smells dank, lower leaf to calyx ratio, starts triching up just before two weeks of age per calyx (which is nothing compared to the instant trich delevopment on the CC and Twilight), the buds themselves are smaller slightly, but worth it for the extra quality, she will be a heavier yielder and better buds IMO (prediction)
Curved Stem WC phenos:
calyxes are large, but look "Odd" when they first come out, no resin until calyxes are three plus weeks old, there are large gaps between the calyxes themselves (some gaps may fill in others may not, we will see), bud sites are few and far between (but the buds themselves are of a decent size), her pistils are too long and thick for my liking, she has white pistils instead of the pretty pink that I like so much (from C-99), the plant itself is sensitive to ph, but sucks up nutes, causing a couple of these different traits, she does not react well to wind (unlike the C-99 plants that I grew in the past)
Strait Stem WC FIM'ed (three main tops):
Calyxes are slightly smaller than that of her sister, but come in more densely, pistils are still long, but skinnier (which I like), lots of bud sites, reacts well to nutes and ph shifts, vigorous and quick to flower, smells dank, lower leaf to calyx ratio, starts triching up just before two weeks of age per calyx (which is nothing compared to the instant trich delevopment on the CC and Twilight), the buds themselves are smaller slightly, but worth it for the extra quality, she will be a heavier yielder and better buds IMO (prediction)
lonleysmoka
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What is such a big deal about the pistils being short/long or skinny/thick. Does resin showing early on Calyxes mean overall resin production will be higher than the average?
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