Wow, A young life ruined........

Straight up G

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lol in ireland if u kill someone u have a high chance of man slaughter = 7yrs ( 4-5yrs good behavour ) n murder prob bout 12 yrs (7-10yrs good behaviour) n life in prison is a joke 25yrs is life you can b out in half the time if ur good!!! u get more time for drug dealing or rape then u do murder!!! fucked up legal system
Or anything involving large sums of the mans precious money.
 

323cheezy

Well-Known Member
Your a total fucking retard.
Straight up g(ay).....
I know what i said may be a controversial thing to say....
and i dont condone killing bums....
However i know a couple bums personally ....
Ive gave them weed bought them beer ...
and all my kindness was takin advantage of ..... theyre fucking meth or crackheads ....most of them...

The truth be it that i love all gods creatures...
But when a person chooses to not contribute to a society.... and just sucks money out of anyone who they come in contact with ....and continues a lifeless existance ..... that eventually leads to their own demise....
I say fuck em...

That doesnt make it right to kill that person..
I was joking about running over a bum...
I never killed anyone.....

And that kid should fucking die for killing that bum regardless how fucking old he was....

I dont think it matters who you kill ...
your a fucking psycho for killing anyone ....regardless if theyre bums, doctors, mcdonald employeees.... watever...

So in conclusion ...
who cares.... one less bum or killerthug i have to worry about.....

Straight up the anus..... Dont get your panties bunched up...lol:hug:
 

Phenom420

Well-Known Member
Straight up g(ay).....
I know what i said may be a controversial thing to say....
and i dont condone killing bums....
However i know a couple bums personally ....
Ive gave them weed bought them beer ...
and all my kindness was takin advantage of ..... theyre fucking meth or crackheads ....most of them...

The truth be it that i love all gods creatures...
But when a person chooses to not contribute to a society.... and just sucks money out of anyone who they come in contact with ....and continues a lifeless existance ..... that eventually leads to their own demise....
I say fuck em...

That doesnt make it right to kill that person..
I was joking about running over a bum...
I never killed anyone.....

And that kid should fucking die for killing that bum regardless how fucking old he was....

I dont think it matters who you kill ...
your a fucking psycho for killing anyone ....regardless if theyre bums, doctors, mcdonald employeees.... watever...

So in conclusion ...
who cares.... one less bum or killerthug i have to worry about.....

Straight up the anus..... Dont get your panties bunched up...lol:hug:
It's about time you changed your tune, you came off as a hater.
Everyone here has a right to life, when someone choses to end it, their life should be ended as well.
Just because he was homeless doesn't speak ANYTHING about him, he could have make over 100k a year and lost it all in this shit economy NO OF US KNEW HIM, so you CAN NOT say he was anything or nothing when you know nothing.

I do dislike seeing those scum drunk/druggie bums, but there is a place for every way of life, just too bad they wont get off their ass and walk with the rest of us.bongsmilie
 

purplekitty7772008

Well-Known Member
I can't believe the OP felt bad for the kid.

As others have already said, by that age that kid
knew better.

He got what he deserved, even though I think he deserves more time.
 

LUDACRIS

New Member
Hey Ludie Loo they put plp to death in Scottyland?
no mate far from it.
there is no death sentance in this country U.K.
the legal system is very lax in this country.
it takes a major crime to end up in the jail/prison here unlike the U.S
the U.S police will have you in jail for possesion of a joint/spliff.
the U.K police are not even interested in that kind of person/s and will let you on you way.
it just seems to me that the U.S want to jail everyone for nothing realistic and thats why they have so many overcrowded prisons and criminals running the streets.
after reading and learning a bit about the U.S laws its just a complete joke how the public are treated by these bent cops and a fucked up legal system thats clearly out of control.

LUDA.
;-)
 

Phenom420

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no mate far from it.
there is no death sentance in this country U.K.
the legal system is very lax in this country.
it takes a major crime to end up in the jail/prison here unlike the U.S
the U.S police will have you in jail for possesion of a joint/spliff.
the U.K police are not even interested in that kind of person/s and will let you on you way.
it just seems to me that the U.S want to jail everyone for nothing realistic and thats why they have so many overcrowded prisons and criminals running the streets.
after reading and learning a bit about the U.S laws its just a complete joke how the public are treated by these bent cops and a fucked up legal system thats clearly out of control.

LUDA.
;-)
Hey
I didn't think they put plp down over there, well I think it's just because some plp can't be unfucked, like say if someone has a hardon for kids, you cant cure that shit, be better off to kill them all together.
I agree with ya, in my town that I live, they treat pot like it was crack or meth, Im not joking some pill heads get 1 year probation and plp with 1/2 oz get 90 days (can get up to 11 months 29 days for up to a oz)
they are retarded about weed laws here.
At worst it should b a fine, id even take a fine of $500 if they found a oz on me, they never have busted me, Ive been searched plenty in another city i was in, and they were up my ass hole almost literally.
They should focus on the REAL problems and not those of us trying to support our families, not like anyone can OD on weed.

Yeah and cops are full of theirselves, they think they are bad ass and the thing of it is they are only cool to other cops, kids, and weeklings. Evry1 else just laughs at the shit they get away with, may it b speeding more dealing or worse.

I cant tell you how many buys I've done with cops within eyesight, they are dumb as shit.

Especially when you have watched the same training vids they watch LOL, pays to have family that goes oink oink.....

Like this 1 time, I got arrested cuz my driver license was bad cuz I didnt pay a speeding ticket 3 years b4 and 4got, yeah well I spent a night in jail over that BS and have some weed on me in a business floder in my laptop, the cop was searching cuz a weed sticker in my car and he opened my laptop and then closed and laid it back down, never thought, hey there might b weed in that folder. What a dumb shit, the both of us, lucky for me he was much more so than I. If I would have had a baggie he would have found it, that was b4 i got smart with the piggies, and that was the stunt that made me realize I had to get brilliant. After that they tried weekend and weekend to get me fuck them, fuck the cops.:bigjoint:
 

LUDACRIS

New Member
the police do a very good job in the U.K and like said they dont lock anyone up for petty offences.
i do know people in the police force but have nothing really to do with them (they are cool).
petty offences are dealt with on the spot and thats the end of the matter.
they are only interested in major drug dealers and could not care about drug users as they have better things to do over here than drive around the streets at their leisure patrolling the streets and stoping anyone they feel like and handing out violations.
and dont think all U.K police are diamonds and always play by the rules but they are no where as bent as the U.S police which is a law system thats way out of control and filled with haters with bad attitudes who think they can do anything they want.
(28 grams of weed in america is a felony if i remember or over 20 grams).

LUDA.
 

Phenom420

Well-Known Member
the police do a very good job in the U.K and like said they dont lock anyone up for petty offences.
i do know people in the police force but have nothing really to do with them (they are cool).
petty offences are dealt with on the spot and thats the end of the matter.
they are only interested in major drug dealers and could not care about drug users as they have better things to do over here than drive around the streets at their leisure patrolling the streets and stoping anyone they feel like and handing out violations.
and dont think all U.K police are diamonds and always play by the rules but they are no where as bent as the U.S police which is a law system thats way out of control and filled with haters with bad attitudes who think they can do anything they want.
(28 grams of weed in america is a felony if i remember or over 20 grams).

LUDA.
Yeah
over 28 is a fel here
fucking retarded
there is 1 state im moving to and u can have 8oz and it's a misdemeanor and considered personal and not resell.
But that all depends how u break the shit down ya know.
well time to go pickle tickle the wife.
 

LUDACRIS

New Member
get caught here with an ounce and it wont even go to court.
a small fine and thats it.
cultivation/growing on a small scale is the same.

LUDA.
 

Phenom420

Well-Known Member
get caught here with an ounce and it wont even go to court.
a small fine and thats it.
cultivation/growing on a small scale is the same.

LUDA.
Yeah thats the way it should b treated at worst.
I dont have a prob with them going after growers (even given im a medium scale one) but small possession is just bull shit they arent hurting anyone, not even themselves usually.

Anyways man we r on the same page.
I gotta go 2 bed sleep times now, im stoned so a nice weed nap it will b
later sir!:bigjoint:
 

LUDACRIS

New Member
Yeah thats the way it should b treated at worst.
I dont have a prob with them going after growers (even given im a medium scale one) but small possession is just bull shit they arent hurting anyone, not even themselves usually.

Anyways man we r on the same page.
I gotta go 2 bed sleep times now, im stoned so a nice weed nap it will b
later sir!:bigjoint:
speak later.

LUDACRIS.
:sleep:
 

HowardWCampbell

New Member
the police do a very good job in the U.K and like said they dont lock anyone up for petty offences.
i do know people in the police force but have nothing really to do with them (they are cool).
petty offences are dealt with on the spot and thats the end of the matter.
they are only interested in major drug dealers and could not care about drug users as they have better things to do over here than drive around the streets at their leisure patrolling the streets and stoping anyone they feel like and handing out violations.
and dont think all U.K police are diamonds and always play by the rules but they are no where as bent as the U.S police which is a law system thats way out of control and filled with haters with bad attitudes who think they can do anything they want.
(28 grams of weed in america is a felony if i remember or over 20 grams).

LUDA.
The felony amount changes by state. Around here 14g is felony possession. :-(

I can't speak for any other countries, but the american legal system is fucked.
 

Phenom420

Well-Known Member
The felony amount changes by state. Around here 14g is felony possession. :-(

I can't speak for any other countries, but the american legal system is fucked.
half a Oz?

Actually we were talking fed law not the state laws I do thinks...

That really blows horse dick 1/2oz shit man.
You know there r states u can have 1/2lb and its not felony....:bigjoint:
 

323cheezy

Well-Known Member
It's about time you changed your tune, you came off as a hater.
Everyone here has a right to life, when someone choses to end it, their life should be ended as well.
Just because he was homeless doesn't speak ANYTHING about him, he could have make over 100k a year and lost it all in this shit economy NO OF US KNEW HIM, so you CAN NOT say he was anything or nothing when you know nothing.

I do dislike seeing those scum drunk/druggie bums, but there is a place for every way of life, just too bad they wont get off their ass and walk with the rest of us.bongsmilie
Okay so not only am i a retard but im a hater now...
So i guess im a retardedhater.....
Change my tune....??
I stated my opinion that if a person (a bum perhaps)..... Does nothing for society....
ands just takes from it ..... They do not deserve to live ..... their worthless.....
Yahhhh ... some people may have financial problems...... get burned by the gov.... may be war veterans..... who have mental problem.... or are handicapped ......
Some people maybe have psychological problems.... mental retardation(like me lol)...

But the fact is im not talking about the whole bum universe......
Im talking about that bum who does nothing but fuck its life away doing hardcore drugs and drinking liquor all day without even trying to get a job or do something for others....and lives off a fucking gov .. check ever month....like the guy by my local 711....
Yeah we talk were friends..... but he did me wrong on a sac once.... even tho i gave him ganj and bought him beer....
I like this bum ...hes a nice guy ..... ive cleaned his fucking socalled house...
a bunch of shit on a sidewalk.... and wheeled him around to the store.....
but after him trying to con me on many occasions..... i realized he just uses peole for money.....and thats fucked up...

As for the kid ..... he made a mistake??
Killing is not a mistake .... he didint just trip, fall, and kill a bum on acccident....
This kid has some major issues .... and i dont want him on my streets......

So ill state my argument one last time....
This isnt a waste of life .... these losers had what came to them.... maybe hes a good kid...i doubt it ..... and maybe hes a good bum..... probly not....
So ill say it...."Yeah they deserve to die and i hope they burn in hell!"

So go ahead talk shit about cheez ...
I never went at another member.....
yall came at me.....

If u would look at my posts u would see that .....
If yall dont like what i say then fuck yall....
keep it to yourself....
Im personally tired of the name calling....

:wall:
:bigjoint:
 

Michael Phelps

Well-Known Member
"PONTIAC, Mich. — A 15-year-old was found guilty Wednesday in the fatal beating last year of a homeless man, a day after a second teenager was convicted and a third was taken into custody.
Dontez Tillman was charged with first-degree felony murder in the death of 61-year-old Wilford Hamilton, a homeless man who prosecutors say was beaten in Pontiac by a group of teenagers in August 2008. The charge carries a mandatory sentence of life in prison with no chance of parole.
Authorities said Tillman confessed to police that he participated in the attack. Tillman’s attorney had called the case against her client weak, saying it lacked direct physical or witness evidence and relied on a confusing, “jumbled” police interview.
Tillman will appeal, defence attorney Marsha Kosmatka said.
“No one wins a murder trial,” she said.
Gregory Townsend, assisting prosecuting attorney, declined to comment.
The Oakland County Circuit Court jury reached the guilty verdict a day after beginning deliberations.
Tillman hung his head and wiped away tears as he was shackled and led from the courtroom.
The verdict came a day after a separate jury found 15-year-old Thomas McCloud guilty of two counts of first-degree felony murder for attacking Hamilton and a second homeless man, Lee Hoffman, also 61.
Sentencing for both McCloud and Tillman was scheduled for Nov. 13.
A third teenager suspected in the attacks was taken into custody Tuesday evening, Pontiac police Detective Steve Wittebort said. The suspect’s name and charges weren’t released ahead of a court appearance set for later Wednesday.
The third suspect was interviewed Wednesday morning and “there were admissions of involvement,” said Wittebort, who declined to elaborate."




Sure he screwed up, he deserves a punishment, but life in prison?

Thats got to be devastating. He's only 15, Surely he screwed up, but I don't believe life in prison is the answer.

Over here a young girl and her 19 year old boyfriend killed her family. The intent of the plot to do it was clear, she is out of prison now. Not sure about the man but I presume if he's not, the release is coming up soon.


http://www.calgarysun.com/news/world/2009/10/28/11556711.html
Ya life in prison is harsh, fuck i dont want to pay any taxes to feed a little shit like that.

Fuck this kid! They should have just taken him to the top of the court house and thrown him off the roof!

Sorry i dont feel bad for this kid, he is 15 and old enough to know whats right and wrong and beating a homeless person to death is just fucked up, especially cause you know they probably beat him up to get a laugh.
 

Phenom420

Well-Known Member
Which states would that be? I really fucked up by not doing more legal research before moving to this state a few years back.
Norml.org is where I got my research from BUT KY seems to be a little more friendly to simple possession, they have 1st time offender clauses even for growing.

Okay so not only am i a retard but im a hater now...
So i guess im a retardedhater.....
Change my tune....??
I stated my opinion that if a person (a bum perhaps)..... Does nothing for society....
ands just takes from it ..... They do not deserve to live ..... their worthless.....
Yahhhh ... some people may have financial problems...... get burned by the gov.... may be war veterans..... who have mental problem.... or are handicapped ......
Some people maybe have psychological problems.... mental retardation(like me lol)...

But the fact is im not talking about the whole bum universe......
Im talking about that bum who does nothing but fuck its life away doing hardcore drugs and drinking liquor all day without even trying to get a job or do something for others....and lives off a fucking gov .. check ever month....like the guy by my local 711....
Yeah we talk were friends..... but he did me wrong on a sac once.... even tho i gave him ganj and bought him beer....
I like this bum ...hes a nice guy ..... ive cleaned his fucking socalled house...
a bunch of shit on a sidewalk.... and wheeled him around to the store.....
but after him trying to con me on many occasions..... i realized he just uses peole for money.....and thats fucked up...

As for the kid ..... he made a mistake??
Killing is not a mistake .... he didint just trip, fall, and kill a bum on acccident....
This kid has some major issues .... and i dont want him on my streets......

So ill state my argument one last time....
This isnt a waste of life .... these losers had what came to them.... maybe hes a good kid...i doubt it ..... and maybe hes a good bum..... probly not....
So ill say it...."Yeah they deserve to die and i hope they burn in hell!"

So go ahead talk shit about cheez ...
I never went at another member.....
yall came at me.....

If u would look at my posts u would see that .....
If yall dont like what i say then fuck yall....
keep it to yourself....
Im personally tired of the name calling....

:wall:
:bigjoint:
Ummm I wasn't calling you names or anything of the such.

Not gonna debate it, we r almost on the same page, I hear ya I shed no tear for those that fall that are a drag on society, Im a dick and I'll admit it.
 

ruderalis88

Well-Known Member
Sure he is only 15 and he messed up big time. But he took the life of another person, so why should he get to enjoy his?
damn right, it's made pretty clear to almost everybody in civilized society that killing an innocent is murder and punishable to the full extent of the law. The little prick should've remembered that before he beat a guy to death.

There was a case a few weeks ago in the UK where a group of youths were vandalising a car on the street. The car owner, a middle aged father and husband, went out to the car to tell them to back off.
One of the little shits battered him across the head with a baseball bat and the guy died. The wee cunt that hit him was convicted of culpable homicide (manslaughter) and only imprisoned for a year or two, on the basis that he "hadn't meant to kill the man, he only meant to hit him over the head".
It's that kind of case that makes me think if you're old enough to take someone's life in cold blood, you're old enough to take the punishment and the courts need to toughen up a little.

I'm not too old myself but i've been past the teenages for a few years and sometimes i look at the state of the kids of society today and it actually makes me feel a little ill. There's a lot of good in that generation, but i fear that there's a lot more evil and stupidity. Sad, really.
 
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