does any of you liberals have the big enuf brain too debate me?

cadeneli

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I'm still laughing !! It hurts!!

Oh, that was direct.
What a fun forum and debates !!
Never a dull moment.
Vicsious pot heads !!
LOL!
And I know better to discuss politics or religion. It brings out the worst in me. Its like digging a ditch with a pitch fork. ARG! And what's funny, none of us are right or wrong! I need to ease up on that white widow bubble hash. What, wait, shit, how did I get here in the first place! LOL!
 

WhateverOne

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No I'm not kidding... you guys live in america right.. Have u ever heard of the federal reserve system.. Hopefully u did or I'm really waisting my time on ignorant bastards.. the federal reserve system (And make no mistakes It's as private as a private corporation can be, no government involved at all) Is the one and only bank in america producing money... But have u ever imagined what money is? I'ts a piece of paper that only can have value if there's a land's gold reserve equal to the money pile.. So the more gold the more 1$ s worth on the world market... plain and simple since money can loose value but gold doesn't.. On all old dollar bills u can read that u can exchange the dollar for the equal amount worth of gold.. This used to be the case... USED TO BE!! the system changed in the early 40s if I'm not mistaken... Now there is no equality in gold reserves/money reserves, the value of the dollar is now equal to the growth of the economy (for as long as economie prospers in america the dollar prospers as well) So if the dollar drops (dramaticly) american peaple can do nothing!!! U can't even exchange ure dollars back in gold since this is no longer the case... The federal reserve bank controls all of the cash flow outgoing from the print.. AND ITS A PRIVATE COMPANY NOT YOUR GOVERNMENT... So they let the cash flow to where? To a system that is based on loaning ... very simple math if only person have all the money in his country and he would loan this to outer persons, banks, companies, governments, etc. And they on there terms loan it to other people,etc en so on and on...Then eventually all money loaned away will come back to this one person +INTERESTS on the loaning say about 10%... than this means that in time this one person.. or corporation call it watever u like will have all the money because he gets more than he loans and everything comes back to him and everything starts with him (the money to begin with) ... This is a system thats either meant to crash or make this one being very powerful over time... but what it also does is make everybody else (american man) poor over time... Even taking it one step further; if this person who gives all this loans, with whatever reason want to get equal with his loaners directly insted of in repayment over time this would couse a chain reaction over the whole economy because the ones who loaned from him also loaned to outers to make profits themself because thats what a bank does it loans money and then loans it to others.. and becouse all these ones need to pay back they all gonna ask the loaned money back resulting in bank crashes, bankruptcy... and the first person to where it all comes from can then easily buy more bankrupt corporations, banks, real estates,... all very much below their actual value... so this even fastens the process of rich/poor than it already was... interesting hypotheses isn't it?
Ether interesting to you or you have the IQ same as my cat (witch is very smart.. ... for a cat)
 

WhateverOne

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and thats why it doesn't mather who won the election the whole economy is based on a corrupt system...
the creator of this system already knew this about 200 years ago.. look it up if u don't believe me I'm just giving facts an hypotheses...
 

WhateverOne

Active Member
now if anyone of u democrats can give me a good argument to weaken any of my cases (I typed allot over this) then give it your best shot.. It'll be funny for sure!!
 

WhateverOne

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doesnt the meaning of being a liberal, mean believing in individual freedom soveriegnty to the people? sounds like the definition of political parties have been perverted by the media, everyone feeling like they should choose a team and be loyal. wouldnt leftist sorta refer to more free thinking compared to right being the following servant. im sick of the sides thing people need to start thinking about things. people really just need to smoke more and think things out. what are liberals scared of anyway? probably some alpha that gets angry when they feel they are losing control and have to use physical violence or bad language in defense which doesnt solve anything. if you really feel that your side is the right side you have the same passion and beliefe that somthing has to work. free individual recognition would allow people to see that the other person over there is just as free as you and that what they have to say should be considerd, i feel that would encourage logical conclusions. and logic says that war in any form against people is a crime. smoke some weed dammit , the west coast will hopefully one day be its own country
At least a few of u guys can still think straight...

best regards!!!
-WH@TeVeR
 
Whateverone said the following "No I'm not kidding... you guys live in america right.. Have u ever heard of the federal reserve system.. Hopefully u did or I'm really waisting my time on ignorant bastards.. the federal reserve system (And make no mistakes It's as private as a private corporation can be, no government involved at all) Is the one and only bank in america producing money... But have u ever imagined what money is? I'ts a piece of paper that only can have value if there's a land's gold reserve equal to the money pile.. So the more gold the more 1$ s worth on the world market... plain and simple since money can loose value but gold doesn't.. On all old dollar bills u can read that u can exchange the dollar for the equal amount worth of gold.. This used to be the case... USED TO BE!! the system changed in the early 40s if I'm not mistaken... "

The private corporation known as the federal reserve banking system (The Fed) came into power in 1913. On Dec 22 at 3 am in the morning to be exact. The majority of congress had left for the christmas season. Only 7 people remaind 3 did not vote 4 did... for the federal reserve act. It was signede into law by president Wilson.
We borrow paper money from this private- for profit- corporation. We give them T-Bills that they can sell. The paper t-bills get their wealth from gold reserves prior to 1971 when Nixon took us off the Gold standard. Since thast time we, the people have been suppling money- via the IRS to cover the lack of a gold standard.
The Fed has never been audited since it came into being. Every dollar BORROWED from the Fed has to be paid back to the Fed at interest.

It is a ponzi scheme. It can never be paid back in full as you still have to borrow the money to pay the interest.

It's worse than that but- I do not want to hi-jack this forum.
drop me a private message if you want to have all the fac ts. I wrote a 4 page articvle in a magazine regarding this very topic.

Cheers
 
I think we lost him... nice points TwoStarHotel ! Well put. Calming. Just what he needed to be pissed off about. Hopefully he'll come back and give and receive.

Banks are behind the whole problem.... follow the money. They are the Puppet Masters.
 

IAm5toned

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But after the Hindenburg (a ship to u dum americans) got torpedo't about 80% of the public wanted an interference and about a million men volunteered to go to war... BUT (and not much americans know this) The Hindenburg was simply sacrificed to make the way to war (and the profits) open! (I'm no nazi no mistakes, somebody who is conservative is more nazi than I am) The nazi's posted a message to the american public in newspapers at the time THE MESSAGE:
DO NOT BOARD THE HINDENBURG IT WILL BE SENT IN TO GERMAN CONTROLLED WATERS WERE THERE ARE A LOT OF U BOATS PATROLLING!!!!
U think the germans wanted to involve america in the war.. they knew they couldn't take that as well as they're miscalculation in Russia... An if u don't believe me newspapers HAVE archives my source comes from the New York times.. But as always america followed in the war because of $$$... And my words are a bit false america didn't go to war..., the people controlling it went to war with it... (and I don't mean the government) How come 5 of ure presidents got executed? Simple in america there's this election system, ALL CORPORATIONS AND RICH INFLUENCED PERSONS CAN PERSONALLY FUND A CAMPAIGN ---> U THINK THIS HAS NO OUTHER SIDE??? Well think clear again (maybe for the first time in your life) So if I have enough money to make somebody president I would get a lot of advantages over my competition meaning changes in law restrictions with do not do corporations well and so on... So in time this would make me more powerful because of this "investment" cause u can call an election that way... DO U THINK THIS GIVES POWER TO THE PEOPLE?? no shit THATS CALLED POWER TO PRIVATE CORPORATIONS!!
Normally if u vote, the one u voted for has to represent u, and all outers voted for him.. But if someone like that gains power by getting the money to fund giant campaigns than he no longer represent u, but the ones who got him there (VERY VERY RICH AND VERY POWERFUL DANGEROUS PERSONS BTW)...!! So the few presidents that got elected, and than did not obey to the funders in advantage of the simple american man... Those good people got shot down...
ummm last time i checked.. the hindenburg was a blimp, not a ship. it crashed in new jersey.... pretty famous newsclip from it too

it didnt get torpedoed either (though i would like to see an ASROC hit a blimp, that would be quite a sight to see :lol:

im not going to address the rest of your post as i was too busy laughing at the hindenburg being torpedoed :lol:

the incident you refered to was the sinking of the lusitania, which occured off the coast of ireland, and had little to do if anything to do with america entering the war. if anything it enalbed an extension of the lend lease program. and it was quite common for german embassies to publish travel warnings to ships carrying passengers in the war zone.

oh wait, i almost forgot the best part...

this incident pertains to WW1... not WW2 your thirty years off man ;)
 

IAm5toned

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now if anyone of u democrats can give me a good argument to weaken any of my cases (I typed allot over this) then give it your best shot.. It'll be funny for sure!!
see my above post :lol:
my grandfather, who is a decorated hero that served on the uss lexington, has a great saying:

'Son, sometimes its best to keep your mouth shut and let people think your smart then to open your mouth and let them know how dumb you really are...'
 

cadeneli

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ummm last time i checked.. the hindenburg was a blimp, not a ship. it crashed in new jersey.... pretty famous newsclip from it too

it didnt get torpedoed either (though i would like to see an ASROC hit a blimp, that would be quite a sight to see :lol:

im not going to address the rest of your post as i was too busy laughing at the hindenburg being torpedoed :lol:

the incident you refered to was the sinking of the lusitania, which occured off the coast of ireland, and had little to do if anything to do with america entering the war. if anything it enalbed an extension of the lend lease program. and it was quite common for german embassies to publish travel warnings to ships carrying passengers in the war zone.

oh wait, i almost forgot the best part...

this incident pertains to WW1... not WW2 your thirty years off man ;)
LMAO! That's funny shit right there, I don't care who you are. And the best part is you are right. And your little bug avatar got me bigger than shit. I tried to catch the sucker! Funny
 

WhateverOne

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no shit man i simply got the name wrong i named the zeplin... its the boat I mean that got torpedo't before america joined the war

my apologies
 

WhateverOne

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ummm last time i checked.. the hindenburg was a blimp, not a ship. it crashed in new jersey.... pretty famous newsclip from it too

it didnt get torpedoed either (though i would like to see an ASROC hit a blimp, that would be quite a sight to see :lol:

im not going to address the rest of your post as i was too busy laughing at the hindenburg being torpedoed :lol:

the incident you refered to was the sinking of the lusitania, which occured off the coast of ireland, and had little to do if anything to do with america entering the war. if anything it enalbed an extension of the lend lease program. and it was quite common for german embassies to publish travel warnings to ships carrying passengers in the war zone.

oh wait, i almost forgot the best part...

this incident pertains to WW1... not WW2 your thirty years off man ;)
yea you're right about part one i missed in names... but then again its your country's history, I'm not even supposed to know it as well as u do... ...
But okey not hindenburgh... thats what I get from smoking to much...
 

WhateverOne

Active Member
see my above post :lol:
my grandfather, who is a decorated hero that served on the uss lexington, has a great saying:
Yez very intriguing saying... but as I said before
1:It's your nations history not mine
2:I'm typing this shit in not even my own languish
3: If I asked u what ship in the 1990s sank before Belgium coast u wouldn't be able to answer that would you...
so regarding the above I will not held my mouth shut an do not think I'm stupid...
Thanks for correcting me tough... If I knew something wrong I have it rather corrected than to believe in something not true
 

cadeneli

Active Member
At least a few of u guys can still think straight...

best regards!!!
-WH@TeVeR
Your theory is beautiful and we ALL would love it if the world worked that way. Sadly it doesn't. And every nation is corrupt. Prove to me otherwise. Even the holy Vatican was built on corruption- and in your words "look it up if you don't believe me".
 

WhateverOne

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Your theory is beautiful and we ALL would love it if the world worked that way. Sadly it doesn't. And every nation is corrupt. Prove to me otherwise. Even the holy Vatican was built on corruption- and in your words "look it up if you don't believe me".
so what are you saying ... just let it go :p Don't care about the rest of the world just your own damn self???
I'm not saying america is the only corrupt system, in post above I have called my government also corrupt..
alike any other government in the world..
 
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