5x5 tent-2 600 watters or 1 1000watter

[andrewdickson]

wacha think? I'm trying to maximize the grow totaling 100 square feet growing trees; my plant limit in sum is 30. As of now I'm thinking about buying:

8 600 watt HPS
4 5x5 grow tent


Wacha think? The reason for 4 separate tents is because this is a rental property, thus I cannot fuck with the circuits. So the 1200 watt individual tents will be flip-flopped 24 hours a day per room, thus allowing me to utilize a 15 amp circuit per room.

Any general ramblings would be much appreciated in addition to my specific question. Thanks! Great to be here!

 

[OregonMeds]

I think if that's your list of equipment you'll have 4 nice big ovens you could make a bunch of jerky or something in.

What have you planned to cool them and the house and what's the budget?

 

[andrewdickson]

I think if that's your list of equipment you'll have 4 nice big ovens you could make a bunch of jerky or something in.

Not sure what you mean?

If you were making a joke about blowing the circuit, please elaborate.

What have you planned to cool them and the house and what's the budget?

Budget isn't set in stone-but I'll spend some cash. I'd give a concrete number but it wouldn't be helpful because I'm friends with a hydro shop owner, thus the scale is relative.

As for cooling, I was thinking an 8 inch Valueline CIF @ 745 CFM per tent.

 

[andrewdickson]

The biggest expense I was considering cutting were the prospective tents, actually. That's 750 bucks in tents for me. I could do CO2, light movers, etcl. for that price. Perhaps seperate the room with a massive piece of panda. Hmmmm where would I vent though??

Questions questions questions.


EDIT: Also fwiw, the air conditioner (only 1 in the apartment) is located in the hallway between the two bedroom using it's own circuit. So ambient temps *might* be an issue, but power isn't. That's the beauty of what I'm attempting to mentally work out-the ability to maximize this grow without getting a sparky in the place to rewire everything.

 

[OregonMeds]

I just wondered if you even knew you'd need a/c and fans for ea tent. Unless you're venting all those lights outside you would need a 24k btu a/c and I doubt that's what you already have in an apartment. Then there's the problem of trying to explain why it's running when it's freezing outside and if you try to get portables for ea tent those would have to all be vented outside too.


Tents are a waste you only need to block off an area with 2x2's and panda film if you don't want to spend money on those.

If I were in your shoes I would downsize the plan and go with two vertical setups with only two lights to get the same yield and or at least do all growing in one room so you don't need any tents and run fat extention cords to the room from other circuits nearest the room so you can run it all in one room and not need any construction or stupid tents.

Vertical man, it's the way to go when you are limited on lights/power/cooling but still want to pull the same weight.

 

[andrewdickson]

I just wondered if you even knew you'd need a/c and fans for ea tent. Unless you're venting all those lights outside you would need a 24k btu a/c and I doubt that's what you already have in an apartment. Then there's the problem of trying to explain why it's running when it's freezing outside and if you try to get portables for ea tent those would have to all be vented outside too.


Tents are a waste you only need to block off an area with 2x2's and panda film if you don't want to spend money on those.

If I were in your shoes I would downsize the plan and go with two vertical setups with only two lights to get the same yield and or at least do all growing in one room so you don't need any tents and run fat extention cords to the room from other circuits nearest the room so you can run it all in one room and not need any construction or stupid tents.

Vertical man, it's the way to go when you are limited on lights/power/cooling but still want to pull the same weight.

I hear you on the vertical. However, I was told that using cords to use for ballasts in other rooms is a big no-no. I am clueless when it comes to this stuff. You think it's safe? Specifically, say, runing 1200 or so watts from a circuit in one room to another, say 10-15 feet away?

Do you have any specific cords in mind? Thanks so much man. Reps, or karma, or good vibes, or whatever it is here.

 

[OregonMeds]

Just get the fattest extension cords you can find at home depot etc and you'll be completely fine they can handle more power than the wiring in your walls or your circuit breakers. Also the shorter the cord the better, don't get a 100' cord when a 20' would do. When you do go really long you need an even thicker cord.

You could probably run both lights on one cord if your breaker is big enough on that line but don't just to be safe. It would be far far better to have ea on it's own extension cord going to different circuits. You can put a light and some little things on ea cord, that's fine, just not two big lights together if you don't have to. If you do have to just watch the cord for any hot spots after it's on for hours. That means just feel the plugs at ea end for heat and all along the cord for heat. Any excessive heat from the cord means you are pushing too much power through it or the connection isn't good in the socket if it's the plug that gets hot.

As long as the cord looks about twice as thick as your standard cheap orange extension cord you are set.

 

[Bob Smith]

wacha think? I'm trying to maximize the grow totaling 100 square feet growing trees; my plant limit in sum is 30. As of now I'm thinking about buying:

8 600 watt HPS
4 5x5 grow tent


Wacha think? The reason for 4 separate tents is because this is a rental property, thus I cannot fuck with the circuits. So the 1200 watt individual tents will be flip-flopped 24 hours a day per room, thus allowing me to utilize a 15 amp circuit per room.

Any general ramblings would be much appreciated in addition to my specific question. Thanks! Great to be here!

I must be confused here - is each of the four tents going to have their own room?

Or are you running two tents per room?

Because unless it's the former, you're going to have electric issues - I have an electrician wiring me up as we speak for 60 amps to run 2400 watts of light with all the fixins - I can't see how you're going to run 2400 watts of light plus fans, etc., off of a 15 amp circuit.

Even if you're wired for 240v as opposed to 120v you're gonna be cutting it close.

 

[sgt.stiffy]

try it out, that will be some insane grow with 8x 600w hps. if your going to do that, buy like 6x 400w hid lights, and dont use any heaters in your home lol

 

[Wohjew]

once again i agree with BOB

 

[OregonMeds]

I must be confused here - is each of the four tents going to have their own room?

Or are you running two tents per room?

Because unless it's the former, you're going to have electric issues - I have an electrician wiring me up as we speak for 60 amps to run 2400 watts of light with all the fixins - I can't see how you're going to run 2400 watts of light plus fans, etc., off of a 15 amp circuit.

Even if you're wired for 240v as opposed to 120v you're gonna be cutting it close.

He's not planning to run it all on one circuit, that's why the discussion of multiple rooms and multiple tents and extension cords.

 

[andrewdickson]

He's not planning to run it all on one circuit, that's why the discussion of multiple rooms and multiple tents and extension cords.

This.


I spent some time mulling over Oregon and others' suggestions and I'm thinking more along these lines now:


1 room. Within said room, 2k seperate grows, seperated by 2x2 and panda, running on a "flip"(IE, one 2k room flowers 12 hours a day, the other 2k room utilizes the other 12 hours). 40-50 square feet per grow. 2 thousand watts per grow, 4K watts in sum. As only 2K watts will be running at any one time, run 1 1000 watter within the circuit in the room, and the other on a Big Bastardly extension from other room. That gives me 440ish watts per circuit for fans and extra goodies at any one time both within in the room as well as from the circuit powered by the extension cord from the other room.


Final question-I've got 100 square feet to work with. 4000 wattsx50=80 square feet. Would it be benificial to utilize that extra 20 square feet making it 100(but closer to 40 watts per sq foot), or should I keep the room at around 80 square feet(40 per "grow.")


Thanks.