Ima Noob and dont really no what i am doing

[fk13]

Im new to growing and dont really got money so every thing needs to be CHEAP.

I just got two Metal Halides one 1000 Watt Metal Halide it was really cheap i got it for 55 bucks and it WORKS lol and a 175 watt for the mother plant

I all ready have tin foil on all the walls.
i got 5 5 gallon paint tub things lol and to fans ones a box fan and the other is a lil clip on fan.

Im growing in my closet and its about
10 feet wide
2 1/2 feet deep
and 7 feet tall.

how many plants can i do with and 1000 watt and with the 175 watt will it work for a mama and her babies

So i need to know what else i need to start.



PLEASE REMEMBER IM ON A BUDGET

 

[bouche753]

tinfoil is BAD!! it causes hot spots iv seen people use allsorts of things, this 1 guy used an emergency blanket! and it worked well.

id get a ph tester, ph up/down and a microscope.

 

[HHGTTG420]

Someone else will need to chime in on the MH lights. My experience is only with CFLs. I'd also get rid of the tinfoil and move to mylar, from what I understand tinfoil will cause burn spots on your plants. You can get it cheap at walmart ($2.88ea) as silver emergency blankets over in the camping & sports section. Its usually a 6x8 sheet and packed in a small box.

Everything else looks good, good luck with your grow man!

 

[fk13]

tinfoil is BAD!! it causes hot spots iv seen people use allsorts of things, this 1 guy used an emergency blanket! and it worked well.

its all i got and it was cheap i got it dollar tree. well it work???

 

[HHGTTG420]

its all i got and it was cheap i got it dollar tree. well it work???

It'll work but could cause you a lot of problems in the long run. Mylar is a lot more uv-reflective than tinfoil and won't cause heat spots.

I started out with tinfoil but luckily switched before I had any problems, much rather waste $4 of tinfoil than have a stressed, sick plant that takes much longer to grow/harvest.

 

[fk13]

can you guys tell me what kind of soil works good

 

[riddleme]

its all i got and it was cheap i got it dollar tree. well it work???

Tin foil is bad you should get rid of it, if the space blankets are too much try white paint

also have you thought about heat and ventalation? your gonna need it with a 1000 watter

 

[bouche753]

u would b better off painting the walls white.

 

[fk13]

Tin foil is bad you should get rid of it, if the space blankets are too much try white paint

also have you thought about heat and ventalation? your gonna need it with a 1000 watter

i have a big box fan as a intake and i might buy one more and put it over the hole in my closet

will it work

 

[HHGTTG420]

i have a big box fan as a intake and i might buy one more and put it over the hole in my closet

will it work

Should work fine, but for good airflow you gotta think about air coming in and air going out. You'll also need to make sure your plants arn't over-winded or they'll get wind-burn.

I recommend a few PC or small clip fans, one or two for intake and one or two for exhaust. You can get small ones cheap at target or wal-mart that are almost a perfect fit for dryer exhaust tubing. I think 'round $8/$10ea. With dryer exhaust you can easily make an activated carbon filter to filter out the smell when you get to flowering.

Edit: to answer your question, it'll work but won't help as far as 'stealth' and depending on how its setup it could cause issues with your plants by either drying out the dirt or blowing them too hard. Also, I use Miracle-Grow and pearlite but you gotta pay close attention to it, MG can be hard to grow with. Some swear by foxfarm dirt, but your gonna pay more.

 

[fk13]

Should work fine, but for good airflow you gotta think about air coming in and air going out. You'll also need to make sure your plants arn't over-winded or they'll get wind-burn.

I recommend a few PC or small clip fans, one or two for intake and one or two for exhaust. You can get small ones cheap at target or wal-mart that are almost a perfect fit for dryer exhaust tubing. I think 'round $8/$10ea. With dryer exhaust you can easily make an activated carbon filter to filter out the smell when you get to flowering.

Edit: to answer your question, it'll work but won't help as far as 'stealth' and depending on how its setup it could cause issues with your plants by either drying out the dirt or blowing them too hard. Also, I use Miracle-Grow and pearlite but you gotta pay close attention to it, MG can be hard to grow with. Some swear by foxfarm dirt, but your gonna pay more.

foxfarm that stuff works good???
it cost 13 bucks for 1 cubic foot
is that a good deal

 

[leftreartire]

why use soil I would go hydro. I think its faster less bugs and is easiest to get rid of. goes right down the drain. you can still use the tubes and for the price of top quality soil you can get the same I nutes. jmo

 

[HowardWCampbell]

You may want to consider setting aside a few bucks to get some red light once you start flowering. The MH will decrease your yields, but MAY increase potency a bit.

A small HPS fixture, or at least some 2700k cfl would be helpful.

Here are some cheap PC fans if you need them:
http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/category/220/Fans/1.html

You will likely need to get a 12vdc adapter to power them as well.

 

[HHGTTG420]

foxfarm that stuff works good???
it cost 13 bucks for 1 cubic foot
is that a good deal

Someone else will need to chime in on foxfarm, I've never used it but this forum has tones of testimonials on it.

leftreartire also has a good point, if you want hydro is a good way to go aswell. You can use the bubbleponics way (dwc w/water flow on plants) or just go dwc (deep water culture) using an airstone and fishtank air pump.

I've seen DWC setups in the plastic coffee containers. I haven't tried this method but probably will soon, its pretty easy but I'm not sure how much work managing nutes and ph is. You'll def need a pH meter for the water if you go this route, you can find them pretty cheap though.

Edit: its best to set a budget, you can easily get expensive but if you already have the good lights, I'd go with some more expense and get the mylar, good dirt or hydro and proper ventilation. If you go hydro you are probably looking $30 to $80 depending on what you already have on hand and what you will need. To get ventilation setup correctly and mylar whether or not you go hydro or dirt your probably looking at another $25/$30. Ventilation is a requirement with those lights, not a luxury.

 

[fk13]

Someone else will need to chime in on foxfarm, I've never used it but this forum has tones of testimonials on it.

leftreartire also has a good point, if you want hydro is a good way to go aswell. You can use the bubbleponics way (dwc w/water flow on plants) or just go dwc (deep water culture) using an airstone and fishtank air pump.

I've seen DWC setups in the plastic coffee containers. I haven't tried this method but probably will soon, its pretty easy but I'm not sure how much work managing nutes and ph is. You'll def need a pH meter for the water if you go this route, you can find them pretty cheap though.

Edit: its best to set a budget, you can easily get expensive but if you already have the good lights, I'd go with some more expense and get the mylar, good dirt or hydro and proper ventilation. If you go hydro you are probably looking $30 to $80 depending on what you already have on hand and what you will need. To get ventilation setup correctly and mylar whether or not you go hydro or dirt your probably looking at another $25/$30. Ventilation is a requirement with those lights, not a luxury.

i dont want to go hydo
and i got about 100 right now to buy stuff i need
and i was looking for clones for like 2 months but have no luck some im germinating seeds right now 36 hour in to it and no luck so far

 

[True Stoner]

like they say.....you get what you pay for!!! Im just starting and i am not starting untill i have everything needed and im investing some money in the beginning since i want it to be worth it in the long run!! You spend to much time and energy to have your plants produce a shitty harvest, thats if they even produce!!!

 

[HowardWCampbell]

i dont want to go hydo
and i got about 100 right now to buy stuff i need
and i was looking for clones for like 2 months but have no luck some im germinating seeds right now 36 hour in to it and no luck so far

How are you germing them? I also had lots of trouble germing when I first started. In my case it was the seeds. Old bagseeds that even on my best day got 20% germination.

If you can get foxfarm locally that would be a good option. I haven't used it myself, but there are lots of happy FF growers around here. If you get the ocean forest, you may need to dilute it a bit for your seedlings. It is considered a "hot" soil.

With a $100 budget I would make sure to take care of ventilation first of all. Keeping the temps right can be tricky when you are first starting out. Usually setting up your big fan as an exhaust proves more effective at cooling a room.

Obviously you will need soil. Nutes can be a lot more expensive than you think. Especially when you are first starting out.

With your budget in mind, I wouldn't bother w/ hps or 2700k cfl right now. You can always upgrade later. The mh can get you through a complete grow. Just to clarify, is your mh 100 or 1000 watts?

Good luck. I am celebrating my one year anniversary of growing today. For the next several weeks you may wonder if it's worth all the hassle. Come harvest time, you will KNOW it's worth it.

 

[fk13]

How are you germing them? I also had lots of trouble germing when I first started. In my case it was the seeds. Old bagseeds that even on my best day got 20% germination.

If you can get foxfarm locally that would be a good option. I haven't used it myself, but there are lots of happy FF growers around here. If you get the ocean forest, you may need to dilute it a bit for your seedlings. It is considered a "hot" soil.

With a $100 budget I would make sure to take care of ventilation first of all. Keeping the temps right can be tricky when you are first starting out. Usually setting up your big fan as an exhaust proves more effective at cooling a room.

Obviously you will need soil. Nutes can be a lot more expensive than you think. Especially when you are first starting out.

With your budget in mind, I wouldn't bother w/ hps or 2700k cfl right now. You can always upgrade later. The mh can get you through a complete grow. Just to clarify, is your mh 100 or 1000 watts?

Good luck. I am celebrating my one year anniversary of growing today. For the next several weeks you may wonder if it's worth all the hassle. Come harvest time, you will KNOW it's worth it.

the seeds are on a plat with wet toilet paper

i have a 1000 watt and a 175 watt

 

[HHGTTG420]

like they say.....you get what you pay for!!! Im just starting and i am not starting untill i have everything needed and im investing some money in the beginning since i want it to be worth it in the long run!! You spend to much time and energy to have your plants produce a shitty harvest, thats if they even produce!!!

I'm not that patient, I geminated before having the grow room setup, then only had one light for the first week of my sprout, then added three lights and tinfoil, then removed tinfoil and replaced with mylar, then added A/C to the room. lmao

I *should* do more in advance, but hell, much more fun to jump right into the raging fire.

 

[HowardWCampbell]

the seeds are on a plat with wet toilet paper

TP can start to disintegrate after being wet for a couple days, but I have used it myself with success.

i have a 1000 watt and a 175 watt

TP can start to disintegrate after being wet for a couple days, but I have used it myself with success. My only other advice is to make sure they are warm and moist at all times. If they still haven't popped after 72 hours maybe consider soaking them in water overnight.

If this is a personal grow, then you have plenty of lighting already. I misunderstood and thought you had a 100 and a 175w. Good luck.