Ideas Most Don't Touch!
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Green Cross
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telekeniesis?
This is what gives dudes the ability to bust a nut on someones face right? lol
This is what gives dudes the ability to bust a nut on someones face right? lol
hom36rown
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There are some pretty stupid animals that exist in the wild...well, they're all stupid compared to us...so I have no clue what you are talking about. I think quantum mechanics and such are a little more advanced than hunting mammoth. And today's architecture make the pyramids and parthenon look like garbage.did you study quantum mechanics?
the universe isnt exactly whay u think it is.... fascinating stuff, the multiverse is... we know so little its more than embaressing.
i saw the program in question... your friend was exagerating a little about the north pole run, however the guy in question is pretty remarkable... the man wasnt an indian buddist he was an eastern european. check it out here for yourself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=madoDvtKEes
the power of the human mind has always been extraordinary, and history is chock full of examples of unique individuals who have learned to master there thoughts...
but here's one thought i had one day while off in a daze:
Im a big student of science and history and technology, and im always amazed at the incredible difficulties overcome by man in more primitive times... and that makes me think, you kno, life on earth used to be hard.. really really hard. ya dig? no ipods, cell phones, doctors, governments, toothbrushes, vitamins, electricity, water pressure, any of the stuff you take for granted today.. so i thinks to myself, gee, how the fuck did they survey and build the parthenon? how the fuck did they align the pyramids with such astronomical precision? and who the fuck built the antikythera mechanism, when WE as a technological society, took over a hundred years just to figure out what it was....
so that makes me really think.. if life used to be so difficult, yet mankind was able to achieve some truly amazing an extraordinarily difficult things...
well how the fuck did they do it? when we today can barely duplicate some of these accomplishments! (lets build an 100% accurate pyramid for example...lol good luck) so i thinks to myself... they mustve been smart.. really smart. like neils bohr kind of smart so my theory is this:
What if todays advances in modern medicine and technology have made us, humans, as a race, dumber than in the past?
think about it.. almost everything is done for us already.. you go to the store, buy food, take it home and throw it on the stove. tadaa! dinner in 20 mins... far cry from hunting mammoth id say.
i could give examples for hours like this.....
a pyramid is about the simplest structure you can make.
morgentaler
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The 10% of the brain myth is long disspelled: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=people-only-use-10-percent-of-brain
I found 32 research papers on the basketball free throw, but none involving the visualization process being more effective. I'd be interested in reading it. I've heard of a study on the effectiveness of practice being improved if the subjects dreamed about it the following night, but I've never found the information itself, so I take that with a grain of salt as well. It's an intriguing idea though
As pointed out the monk wasn't a monk. He was featured on the show "Real Superhumans" on Discovery along with several other very interesting people. While what he does is amazing it's an internal physiological process. For telepathy to work you wouldn't just need a physiologically unique receiver, the sender would have to be special too. Brain waves only travel about 3 feet from the body, and they may not even contain anything contextually useful to someone were they capable of receiving. There is no reputable, peer-reviewed, scientific study supporting telekinesis or telepathy in humans or other animals. But that's not to say there aren't impressive analogs. Ants and other species of insect communicate largely in pheremone trails at significant distances.
Technologically, we may see something resembling rudimentary telepathy in our lifetimes though augmentation.
While it's an interesting subject for a thread, there's an underlying bit which I'd like to address.
You heard these interesting things, and have thought about them internally, but didn't go out and pursue additional information on them to see if they were relayed to you in an accurate manner, or what makes them work. While philosophical introspection has its purposes, it's important to not just take the information presented to you at face value, but follow it back to the source and then evaluate it on its merits.
The great philosopher, er, singer Jello Biafra said it best: "Don't just question authority. Question everything."
I found 32 research papers on the basketball free throw, but none involving the visualization process being more effective. I'd be interested in reading it. I've heard of a study on the effectiveness of practice being improved if the subjects dreamed about it the following night, but I've never found the information itself, so I take that with a grain of salt as well. It's an intriguing idea though
As pointed out the monk wasn't a monk. He was featured on the show "Real Superhumans" on Discovery along with several other very interesting people. While what he does is amazing it's an internal physiological process. For telepathy to work you wouldn't just need a physiologically unique receiver, the sender would have to be special too. Brain waves only travel about 3 feet from the body, and they may not even contain anything contextually useful to someone were they capable of receiving. There is no reputable, peer-reviewed, scientific study supporting telekinesis or telepathy in humans or other animals. But that's not to say there aren't impressive analogs. Ants and other species of insect communicate largely in pheremone trails at significant distances.
Technologically, we may see something resembling rudimentary telepathy in our lifetimes though augmentation.
While it's an interesting subject for a thread, there's an underlying bit which I'd like to address.
You heard these interesting things, and have thought about them internally, but didn't go out and pursue additional information on them to see if they were relayed to you in an accurate manner, or what makes them work. While philosophical introspection has its purposes, it's important to not just take the information presented to you at face value, but follow it back to the source and then evaluate it on its merits.
The great philosopher, er, singer Jello Biafra said it best: "Don't just question authority. Question everything."
Mauihund
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I am just a newbie learner, but my teacher has been practicing for 26 years. Very powerful stuff. I wish I learned this a long time ago.
We can barely duplicate their accomplishments? I dont know if you noticed, but the International Space Station, the Burj Dubai is almost a km tall, all of our computers and nanotechnology and our amazing control of electricity and the infinite possibilities that allows us. We can give a person who has no arm a new one that they can control with their brain. We can kill ourselves at the push of a button through nuclear warfare, or one day colonize Mars through the use of nuclear engines to get there. We kick 2000 years ago's ass.did you study quantum mechanics?
the universe isnt exactly whay u think it is.... fascinating stuff, the multiverse is... we know so little its more than embaressing.
i saw the program in question... your friend was exagerating a little about the north pole run, however the guy in question is pretty remarkable... the man wasnt an indian buddist he was an eastern european. check it out here for yourself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=madoDvtKEes
the power of the human mind has always been extraordinary, and history is chock full of examples of unique individuals who have learned to master there thoughts...
but here's one thought i had one day while off in a daze:
Im a big student of science and history and technology, and im always amazed at the incredible difficulties overcome by man in more primitive times... and that makes me think, you kno, life on earth used to be hard.. really really hard. ya dig? no ipods, cell phones, doctors, governments, toothbrushes, vitamins, electricity, water pressure, any of the stuff you take for granted today.. so i thinks to myself, gee, how the fuck did they survey and build the parthenon? how the fuck did they align the pyramids with such astronomical precision? and who the fuck built the antikythera mechanism, when WE as a technological society, took over a hundred years just to figure out what it was....
so that makes me really think.. if life used to be so difficult, yet mankind was able to achieve some truly amazing an extraordinarily difficult things...
well how the fuck did they do it? when we today can barely duplicate some of these accomplishments! (lets build an 100% accurate pyramid for example...lol good luck) so i thinks to myself... they mustve been smart.. really smart. like neils bohr kind of smart so my theory is this:
What if todays advances in modern medicine and technology have made us, humans, as a race, dumber than in the past?
think about it.. almost everything is done for us already.. you go to the store, buy food, take it home and throw it on the stove. tadaa! dinner in 20 mins... far cry from hunting mammoth id say.
i could give examples for hours like this.....
IAm5toned
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your exactly right on everything you said...
however i think you misunderstood the point of my original post.
we as a modern society have a couple of tremendous advantages over any other era in human history-
1- the ability to aquire resources and raw materials globally in very short time
2- rapid transit (motorized equipment)
3- computers and there networked databases
4- global communication
dont misjudge simple structures either, there deceptively simple.. for example, draw a perfect circle free hand...
and as far as the case of a pyramid, if it was easy to build then explain to me how you would do any of this without some modern computers, land surveys, and astronomical charts.. and cranes... and mortar for that matter.
1. survey your pyramid building site in the exact geographical center of the worlds land AND gravitational mass with a precision of less than one 1/4" tolerance. oh yeah, roughly 3500 years before the 'discovery' of north and south america, and the antartic land mass.
2. The north-south axis (31 degrees east of Greenwich) is the longest land meridian, and the east-west axis (30 degrees north) is the longest land parallel on the globe. They only cross at one point in the western hemisphere This also is coincindentally the same location as the great pyramid, 3700 years before the 'discovery' of lattitude
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5. build a pyramid structure out of solid stones using no mortar that weighs an estimated 6.5 million tons.. surrounded by sand, in the middle of the desert and support the 14000+ workforce that is needed to build it.oh, and the egyptians did not use wheels in construction, only for chariots. guess they liked a good challenge
6. heres my favorite one... in this pyramid, in the exact center, construct two shafts that point precisely at two given points several light years away... and it gets better than that. because to do this, you must first know the location that those two points will come together, which happens to be 160 feet above the ground BEFORE you build the pyramid... and make that align with the rest of everything else.
that takes quite an impressive amount of surveying my friend... aligning all those points... and heres the best part- build it in a manner so that it will last 5500 years and counting.
pretty simple huh
IAm5toned
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I first got into Qigong when i was laid up with a torn acl when i was 18... sadly i have not had the opportunity to train with a master for over a decade now
tn doesnt have much in the way of proper martial arts lol
IAm5toned
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what good is all that technology when you shut the power off?
ps ima shutup now cause it really was not my intention to hijack this thread and its getting a little off topic
hom36rown
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I am aware of all this, nevertheless, the fact remains. There is a reason there are so many different pyramids from ancient times in so many parts of the world.your exactly right on everything you said...
however i think you misunderstood the point of my original post.
we as a modern society have a couple of tremendous advantages over any other era in human history-
1- the ability to aquire resources and raw materials globally in very short time
2- rapid transit (motorized equipment)
3- computers and there networked databases
4- global communication
dont misjudge simple structures either, there deceptively simple.. for example, draw a perfect circle free hand...
and as far as the case of a pyramid, if it was easy to build then explain to me how you would do any of this without some modern computers, land surveys, and astronomical charts.. and cranes... and mortar for that matter.
1. survey your pyramid building site in the exact geographical center of the worlds land AND gravitational mass with a precision of less than one 1/4" tolerance. oh yeah, roughly 3500 years before the 'discovery' of north and south america, and the antartic land mass.
2. The north-south axis (31 degrees east of Greenwich) is the longest land meridian, and the east-west axis (30 degrees north) is the longest land parallel on the globe. They only cross at one point in the western hemisphere This also is coincindentally the same location as the great pyramid, 3700 years before the 'discovery' of lattitude
4.
5. build a pyramid structure out of solid stones using no mortar that weighs an estimated 6.5 million tons.. surrounded by sand, in the middle of the desert and support the 14000+ workforce that is needed to build it.oh, and the egyptians did not use wheels in construction, only for chariots. guess they liked a good challenge
6. heres my favorite one... in this pyramid, in the exact center, construct two shafts that point precisely at two given points several light years away... and it gets better than that. because to do this, you must first know the location that those two points will come together, which happens to be 160 feet above the ground BEFORE you build the pyramid... and make that align with the rest of everything else.
that takes quite an impressive amount of surveying my friend... aligning all those points... and heres the best part- build it in a manner so that it will last 5500 years and counting.
pretty simple huh
The technology is not what makes the building, it's the mind. Intelligence goes a long way when it comes to to construction, especially in the mathematics department.
For example, did you know that with only 3 pieces of metal, some dye, a shaping tool, and some patience and skill, you can create 3 pieces of perfectly flat plates, without a reference? And when I say perfectly, I mean down to 1/10,000th of an inch perfect. Such things could then be used as references themselves for measurement and building other tools, which then go on to build more advanced structures, etc. etc. etc. Adding a lapping or polishing compound and working the same 3 plates can further level the plates and produce optical-quality flats if you're patient enough.
http://home.comcast.net/~jaswensen/machines/straight_edge/straight_edge.html
This same technique can also be applied to wood. Once a wood reference is made, the wood can be dyed and pressed onto a stone block. Chisel away the high spots and voila, you have yourself a flat side. Use some standardized measurements and you'll soon have a nice, even, cube.
You don't always need fancy tools to accomplish amazing things. Knowledge goes a long way.
For example, did you know that with only 3 pieces of metal, some dye, a shaping tool, and some patience and skill, you can create 3 pieces of perfectly flat plates, without a reference? And when I say perfectly, I mean down to 1/10,000th of an inch perfect. Such things could then be used as references themselves for measurement and building other tools, which then go on to build more advanced structures, etc. etc. etc. Adding a lapping or polishing compound and working the same 3 plates can further level the plates and produce optical-quality flats if you're patient enough.
http://home.comcast.net/~jaswensen/machines/straight_edge/straight_edge.html
This same technique can also be applied to wood. Once a wood reference is made, the wood can be dyed and pressed onto a stone block. Chisel away the high spots and voila, you have yourself a flat side. Use some standardized measurements and you'll soon have a nice, even, cube.
You don't always need fancy tools to accomplish amazing things. Knowledge goes a long way.
IAm5toned
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radiate- great post!
hom36grown-
I understand your point, pyramids are found all over the world... but not pyramids like the one in question... what I am trying to bring to light here is the amount of planning and forethought, combined with some very complicated mathematics and surveying techniques that were done with primitive tools (sticks and strings) at best, during a period in history where life was unbearably brutal and relatively short, and maintain a high level of accuracy and consistancy during construction.
I dont think you realize the level of planning and economic vitality it would take to attempt such an undertaking... at the time of its construction the great pyramid was the single most advanced structure in the world, and remained that way untill the early 20th century when free standing, self supporting steel frames were invented.
To undertake a project of the same complexity in todays technological enviroment would be the equivilant of the american space program during the 1960's....
hom36grown-
I understand your point, pyramids are found all over the world... but not pyramids like the one in question... what I am trying to bring to light here is the amount of planning and forethought, combined with some very complicated mathematics and surveying techniques that were done with primitive tools (sticks and strings) at best, during a period in history where life was unbearably brutal and relatively short, and maintain a high level of accuracy and consistancy during construction.
I dont think you realize the level of planning and economic vitality it would take to attempt such an undertaking... at the time of its construction the great pyramid was the single most advanced structure in the world, and remained that way untill the early 20th century when free standing, self supporting steel frames were invented.
To undertake a project of the same complexity in todays technological enviroment would be the equivilant of the american space program during the 1960's....
Mauihund
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I first got into Qigong when i was laid up with a torn acl when i was 18... sadly i have not had the opportunity to train with a master for over a decade now
tn doesnt have much in the way of proper martial arts lol
One of the things that hooked me was learning that the world will spin just fine on it's own for 20-30 min a day.......without me thinking about it. When you've been addicted to noise and activity most of your life, a quiet mind gets loud.