400W HPS Stealth Armoire...1St Grow

[LoveTheVapor]

could b too strong of light for such young plants.. looks good other wise

I have my lamp 23" away, it's a 400W HPS. I was planning on lowering it a little at a time, my own way or hardening them off. I looked into heat stress, but symptoms look similar to over watering and nitrogen deff. Temp is steady at 75 degrees and passes the hand test. What do you think, I'm I ok or should I back it off?

 

[dgk4life]

i think u should not use the hps till theyr older... use floro for veg... u also dont want your light that far away u will get major stretching

 

[LoveTheVapor]

nice work on the setup. how's it do on sound in the stealth department?

It runs very quite, no light leaks at all. The fan is wired on low (218cmf) and it's enough to exchange the air about 3-5 times a minute. I did the calculations when I was in the design phase, but can't find them right now. Also, I forgot to mention I had to remove one of the center louvers (They are stacked 4 deep on each other and are removable) to reduce suction in the cab, the door would pull a little when opened slightly, plus by doing this it also reduced the stress on the fan which made it run quieter. The cab is directly under an overhead fan. The fan serves as cooling on hot days, and to take the blame for the faint air sound. My mom came by to visit a couple nights ago, never suspected a thing. She even complimented the cab, said it was very nice and that it matched my furniture.

 

[LoveTheVapor]

dude this cab is an inspiration to what ive been dreaming up for my own personal setup. great work. im on my third grow know but with bagseed and with a partner who is a little unreliable with the gardening. so i will use your ideas and get busy with my shit. ill be stoping in for sure

Thanks for the support. I recommend taking care of your own plants if possible, just my opinion.

Can someone tell me how to multi quote, tried using the multi button but couldn't figure it out. Sorry, I'm a new to forums also.

 

[LoveTheVapor]

i think u should not use the hps till theyr older... use floro for veg... u also dont want your light that far away u will get major stretching

I originally wanted to have a veg chamber in there, but did'nt have the funds for it, plus I read in the Cervantes Grow Bible and some other resources that you can veg with HPS.

I plan on lowering the lights, but when I saw the clones drooping I kind of got nervous so I stopped watering and backed off the lights. I plan on lowering them slowly or when the roots are established. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

[newb19547]

Awesome work man....I plan to have something similar sometime..........

 

[TechnoMage]

I'm with dgk4life on the fluorescent for veg but that's what I do myself. The nice thing about fluorescent is that you can keep the bulbs very close to the top of the plants. This really helps if you're trying to keep the plants short and bushy.

 

[dgk4life]

thank you... and yes u can veg wit hps but u will get stretched plants and since u have a height max i would use floros for veg then put the hps in to play..

 

[2talljones]

love it. I love stealthy grows

 

[LoveTheVapor]

thank you... and yes u can veg wit hps but u will get stretched plants and since u have a height max i would use floros for veg then put the hps in to play..

Yea, I did read that the plants stretch a little more with HPS, that's why I decided to give SCOG a try. I'm already imagining my next project, a small veg cab with floros or small MH, but that's a long way away if it happens. Right now I just want to use my energy on making this a successful grow. I'm a medical marijuana patient and live in the bay area in Cali, so getting a hold of some quality clones is just a couple key strokes away, that's why I used all my budget to make a flowering cab.

The plants are sleeping right now, lights don't come on till 6pm and I have been at work all day so there is no update yet. Hope that they are looking better...or at least not any sadder. I guess worrying about your small plants is part of new growers learnig curve. I'm constantly double checking everything...but it's all in fun.

 

[TechnoMage]

I'm a medical marijuana patient and live in the bay area in Cali, so getting a hold of some quality clones is just a couple key strokes away, that's why I used all my budget to make a flowering cab.....

The plants are sleeping right now, lights don't come on till 6pm and I have been at work all day so there is no update yet. Hope that they are looking better...or at least not any sadder. I guess worrying about your small plants is part of new growers learnig curve. I'm constantly double checking everything...but it's all in fun.

Smart move concentrating on the flower cab.

Yep, we've all been there. The good thing is that they call it weed for a reason, it can take a lot of abuse and still bounce back. I had a grow where we had a 2 week power outage in the middle of winter with freezing temps and I didn't lose a single plant. My current flower grow went for a week without water and is still finishing strong.

 

[LoveTheVapor]

Smart move concentrating on the flower cab.

Yep, we've all been there. The good thing is that they call it weed for a reason, it can take a lot of abuse and still bounce back. I had a grow where we had a 2 week power outage in the middle of winter with freezing temps and I didn't lose a single plant. My current flower grow went for a week without water and is still finishing strong.

Appreciate the kind words sir. I sure hope my Chem Dawg strain has as much fight in them as whatever it is you grew.

Talk to you guys later on tonight after lights come on. I have to finish my P90X workout routine. I keep my self in check, no smoking until I worked out, wake n' vape doesn't count if it's a work day. It's the best motivator I have found. LOL

 

[Punk]

Thanks, this was my first attempt at anything like this. I really enjoyed making it, I was on disability when I was initially inspired on growing out of a styrofoam container, but the more I read, the more I wanted to go as big as my budget will let me. The stealth passed, a week before I brought the clones in I called my maintenance department for my apts and had them check out my garbage disposal. I had the cab juiced up and they never looked at it twice. If people ask, it's extra storage space.

People that don't smoke weed or who dont have knowledge of it, never ever suspect you're growing something illegal, even if there's noise and shit...the light can trip them off a bit, but ya...

LOL. They are very similar. They do take some time and work to complete, but like you said, it's an elegant piece of furniture.

It's that nicer appearance that def makes people disregard illegal activities.

I have my lamp 23" away, it's a 400W HPS. I was planning on lowering it a little at a time, my own way or hardening them off. I looked into heat stress, but symptoms look similar to over watering and nitrogen deff. Temp is steady at 75 degrees and passes the hand test. What do you think, I'm I ok or should I back it off?

75 is great.

i think u should not use the hps till theyr older... use floro for veg... u also dont want your light that far away u will get major stretching

Bullshit to that. A hps will veg them way better than a floro, please.

Thanks for the support. I recommend taking care of your own plants if possible, just my opinion.

Can someone tell me how to multi quote, tried using the multi button but couldn't figure it out. Sorry, I'm a new to forums also.

you hit "multi" on all the quotes EXCEPT the last one...that one you just hit "quote".

Yea, I did read that the plants stretch a little more with HPS, that's why I decided to give SCOG a try. I'm already imagining my next project, a small veg cab with floros or small MH, but that's a long way away if it happens. Right now I just want to use my energy on making this a successful grow. I'm a medical marijuana patient and live in the bay area in Cali, so getting a hold of some quality clones is just a couple key strokes away, that's why I used all my budget to make a flowering cab.

The plants are sleeping right now, lights don't come on till 6pm and I have been at work all day so there is no update yet. Hope that they are looking better...or at least not any sadder. I guess worrying about your small plants is part of new growers learnig curve. I'm constantly double checking everything...but it's all in fun.

Scrog might be a great approach since there is a bit of a vertical restriction with your cab in that some of the shitty strains that don't live up to expectations tend to stretch more than you would expect/want.

My cab is about 15" higher and I've had to chop tops that stretched up into the light.

Another option is Super Cropping(aka, low stress training, bonsai to cannabis). There's info on it around here somewhere.

 

[sweetgod420]

where did u get that cabkiss-ass

 

[LoveTheVapor]

People that don't smoke weed or who dont have knowledge of it, never ever suspect you're growing something illegal, even if there's noise and shit...the light can trip them off a bit, but ya...


It's that nicer appearance that def makes people disregard illegal activities.



75 is great.



Bullshit to that. A hps will veg them way better than a floro, please.



you hit "multi" on all the quotes EXCEPT the last one...that one you just hit "quote".



Scrog might be a great approach since there is a bit of a vertical restriction with your cab in that some of the shitty strains that don't live up to expectations tend to stretch more than you would expect/want.

My cab is about 15" higher and I've had to chop tops that stretched up into the light.

Another option is Super Cropping(aka, low stress training, bonsai to cannabis). There's info on it around here somewhere.

Thanks for kicking down some knowledge Punk.

I read a little something on super cropping(LST), but this seemed a little cleaner than having my cab look like it was occupied by a giant spider. This is the future I'm working towards...

This was under a 400W HPS. Beautiful sight, isn't it? Hempy follower's have proof that their method produces very similar results as DCW growers. Don't have a link to give credit for this pic.

Anyways, plants look the same or a little more perky but their color hasn't fully returned, maybe wishful thinking but I'm not worried about them at this point. Peace.

 

[LoveTheVapor]

love it. I love stealthy grows

A little late, but thanks dude. I love it too.

EDIT: No offense if your not a dude. Jumped to conclusions.

 

[LoveTheVapor]

where did u get that cabkiss-ass

Dude, I wish I could make your life a little easier by telling you to go pick one up at your local Wal-Mart, but I had to look high and low around the Bay to find one like this. I looked on craigslist almost everyday, went to a shit load of furniture stores, stopped at every yard sale I crossed. This one had only had one owner, came from an old hotel that was begin remodeled. I bought it from a guy that owns a used furniture store that I found one day that I got lost while trying to take a shortcut to the Oakland A's game. Never made it to the Game, I saw the sign and slammed my breaks. It's very heavy cause it's built like a tank which makes it almost sound proof.

I recommend you keep your eyes peeled and stay alert. Always take a measuring tape, pen and paper when you go hunting for one. Don't sacrifice if you really care about aesthetics or really want it stealth. Find one that fits your situation. And I would not buy any expensive components until you have your cab. You will need dimensions and measurements before you engineer these bad boys to take advantage of all your space. Plus it helps to have it in front of you so you can visualize your final result.
Hope this helps.

 

[LogHead]

nice, tuned in

 

[dgk4life]

Bullshit to that. A hps will veg them way better than a floro, please.



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yeah a hps may veg them better but he has a height restriction so to keep node spacing tight and the plants short and compact floros r the best choice.. so bullshit to u sir.. if he continues wit his hps veging at 23" away he will run into a ton of problems stretching, burnt plants and no longer a sog or scrog.... but hey thanks for playin now move along

 

[sweetgod420]

Dude, I wish I could make your life a little easier by telling you to go pick one up at your local Wal-Mart, but I had to look high and low around the Bay to find one like this. I looked on craigslist almost everyday, went to a shit load of furniture stores, stopped at every yard sale I crossed. This one had only had one owner, came from an old hotel that was begin remodeled. I bought it from a guy that owns a used furniture store that I found one day that I got lost while trying to take a shortcut to the Oakland A's game. Never made it to the Game, I saw the sign and slammed my breaks. It's very heavy cause it's built like a tank which makes it almost sound proof.

I recommend you keep your eyes peeled and stay alert. Always take a measuring tape, pen and paper when you go hunting for one. Don't sacrifice if you really care about aesthetics or really want it stealth. Find one that fits your situation. And I would not buy any expensive components until you have your cab. You will need dimensions and measurements before you engineer these bad boys to take advantage of all your space. Plus it helps to have it in front of you so you can visualize your final result.
Hope this helps.

thats a pretty jokes story man ! , hope u get to see the a's at some point soon. and maybe ur cabs made of mdf(mdf is heavy n sound proof basically.

and i have all my shit and 2 cabs built , i was just wondering because i may opt for 5ft of grow space rather than 2ft