bigjesse1922
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Sure they don't. 
I mean do.
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I mean do.
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THELOADEDDRAGON'S Perpetually growing perpetual grow
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theloadeddragon
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picked up more soil for the transplant, 
....... mixing perlite, Bio Bizz All Mix, and Fox Farms Ocean Forest together for the 5 gal pots....... got a new complete 400W system on its way ....... hopefully have it set up on the first, and have another one set up right around then too ........ happy for now..... another layout or two are on there way, and a pic update tomorrow after I transplant and add in the extra CFL's that I got.....
and lumens counting is unarguable as they are used in measuring PAR (on one level or another)
....... mixing perlite, Bio Bizz All Mix, and Fox Farms Ocean Forest together for the 5 gal pots....... got a new complete 400W system on its way ....... hopefully have it set up on the first, and have another one set up right around then too ........ happy for now..... another layout or two are on there way, and a pic update tomorrow after I transplant and add in the extra CFL's that I got.....and lumens counting is unarguable as they are used in measuring PAR (on one level or another)
theloadeddragon
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Mothers From Seed (Transplant) 9-22 10 pm-11:30pm
2 bags Bio Bizz All Mix
1 1/3 bags Fox Farms Ocean Forest
1 3/4 cu ft Perlite
Evenly mixed for desired consistancy and spread between 14 5 gal pots.
They were pre arranged under the lights as follows: L to R Twilight, Widow Cindy, Chemo Cindy, and Maui Skunk.... Or front to back depending on from which side your looking at the area from.
Order of transplants (pics in same order):
1st Chemo Cindy, 2nd Widow Cindy, 3rd Twilight
None of the new CFL's were installed until the next morning, and I hope to get pics of how the panel is now (still unfinished!) later this afternoon.
I am going to consider the start of veg at 8-20-09
Which puts these ladies at exactly 5 weeks today.
I was thinking that the maturation to preflower would be starting within the next two weeks 9-25 to 10-12, but yesterday while tending I noticed that at least one Widow Cindy, and maybe a couple others, are starting to develop the preflowers starting at the 4th-6th nodes.
My GUESS as to the prospective females are as follows:
3 of 4 Widow Cindy
2-3 of 5 Chemo Cindy
2 of 5 Twilight (though I am still holding out for all females from the Twilight
)
2-4 of 5 Mauii Skunk (the most aggressively vigorous strain thus far)
totalling about 10 females of 19 plants. I will deal with the males as the show themselves,.
Once sex is established and they simply won't fit under the fluorescent panel any more (I will raise it another 4-6 inches tops) I will split the strains up under two 400W MH (one brand new! ). they will be split as:
Mauii Skunk and Twilight under one MH
And Chemo Cindy and Widow Cindy under the other MH.
And Now for some rough schedule guidelines:
* The first set of clones will be taken 10-15 to 10-24 sometime. 30-35 cuttings total from the first session, going under the fluorescent panel. At this point I will elect to keep only (hopefully) two mothers of each strain.
- 1st set of clones will go into flower 11-5 to 11-12 sometime
* Second set of clones will come off 11-5 to 11-15 sometime
- Second set of clones will go into flower under a new 1000W HPS 12-12 to 12-15 sometime
* Third set of clones will be taken 12-5 to 12-12 sometime
$ First Set of clones will be harvested 1-12 to 1-24 sometime (yeah 2010)
-Third set of clones will go into flower 1-12 to 1-24 sometime
*Fourth set of clones will be taken 1-12 to 1-20 sometime
$ Second Set of clones harvested 2-15 to 2 20 some time
- Fourth set of clones go into flower 2-15 to 2-20 sometime
And so on.....
Some of the clones will go into the greenhouse once its completed so there will be some extra here and there ones.
Male pollen will be collected and temporarily stored of each strain that produces males, before they are disposed of.
The mothers may be replaced in February leaving the old mothers to regenerate and flower with select pollens on select portions of the flowering plants (3 weeks into flower) based on the strain, phenotypes/characteristics, vigour etc. and the rest of the non seeded flowers will be compared to the earlier clone harvests as far as quality etc.
This will give me continued seed stock, And New Strains
The replacement mothers would have to be ready to give clones by the End of February to continue the indoor grows.... and by then I should Also need to Expand Veg space 
..... as the expansion to where house grow is expected Starting at the end of February.....
SO..... I will basically be figuring it out as I go
And..... I should have a couple Purple Kush clones and Sensi Star clones to plug in as additional mothers to keep the genetics as my staple strains (they have been so good to me 
)
I will have a few more layout designs and bits of schematics etc. to post as we go too like the one I am about to do this weekend showing the actual table design for my first flowering set up in this grow
Heres the pics ...... my camera it seems may have taken a crap on me so I had to use a different one..... should hopefully be buying a new one around the end of Oct.
And yes I will be turning pots to keep growth uhhh centered or even or whatever you want to call it..... but the added lights should help with the "curvature" hopefully
2 bags Bio Bizz All Mix
1 1/3 bags Fox Farms Ocean Forest
1 3/4 cu ft Perlite
Evenly mixed for desired consistancy and spread between 14 5 gal pots.
They were pre arranged under the lights as follows: L to R Twilight, Widow Cindy, Chemo Cindy, and Maui Skunk.... Or front to back depending on from which side your looking at the area from.
Order of transplants (pics in same order):
1st Chemo Cindy, 2nd Widow Cindy, 3rd Twilight
None of the new CFL's were installed until the next morning, and I hope to get pics of how the panel is now (still unfinished!) later this afternoon.
I am going to consider the start of veg at 8-20-09
Which puts these ladies at exactly 5 weeks today.
I was thinking that the maturation to preflower would be starting within the next two weeks 9-25 to 10-12, but yesterday while tending I noticed that at least one Widow Cindy, and maybe a couple others, are starting to develop the preflowers starting at the 4th-6th nodes
.My GUESS as to the prospective females are as follows:
3 of 4 Widow Cindy
2-3 of 5 Chemo Cindy
2 of 5 Twilight (though I am still holding out for all females from the Twilight
)2-4 of 5 Mauii Skunk (the most aggressively vigorous strain thus far)
totalling about 10 females of 19 plants. I will deal with the males as the show themselves,
.Once sex is established and they simply won't fit under the fluorescent panel any more (I will raise it another 4-6 inches tops) I will split the strains up under two 400W MH (one brand new!
). they will be split as:Mauii Skunk and Twilight under one MH
And Chemo Cindy and Widow Cindy under the other MH.
And Now for some rough schedule guidelines:
* The first set of clones will be taken 10-15 to 10-24 sometime. 30-35 cuttings total from the first session, going under the fluorescent panel. At this point I will elect to keep only (hopefully) two mothers of each strain.
- 1st set of clones will go into flower 11-5 to 11-12 sometime
* Second set of clones will come off 11-5 to 11-15 sometime
- Second set of clones will go into flower under a new 1000W HPS 12-12 to 12-15 sometime
* Third set of clones will be taken 12-5 to 12-12 sometime
$ First Set of clones will be harvested 1-12 to 1-24 sometime (yeah 2010)
-Third set of clones will go into flower 1-12 to 1-24 sometime
*Fourth set of clones will be taken 1-12 to 1-20 sometime
$ Second Set of clones harvested 2-15 to 2 20 some time
- Fourth set of clones go into flower 2-15 to 2-20 sometime
And so on.....
Some of the clones will go into the greenhouse once its completed so there will be some extra here and there ones.
Male pollen will be collected and temporarily stored of each strain that produces males, before they are disposed of.
The mothers may be replaced in February leaving the old mothers to regenerate and flower with select pollens on select portions of the flowering plants (3 weeks into flower) based on the strain, phenotypes/characteristics, vigour etc. and the rest of the non seeded flowers will be compared to the earlier clone harvests as far as quality etc.
This will give me continued seed stock, And New Strains
The replacement mothers would have to be ready to give clones by the End of February to continue the indoor grows.... and by then I should Also need to Expand Veg space
..... as the expansion to where house grow is expected Starting at the end of February.....SO..... I will basically be figuring it out as I go
And..... I should have a couple Purple Kush clones and Sensi Star clones to plug in as additional mothers to keep the genetics as my staple strains
(they have been so good to me )I will have a few more layout designs and bits of schematics etc. to post as we go too
like the one I am about to do this weekend showing the actual table design for my first flowering set up in this grow Heres the pics
...... my camera it seems may have taken a crap on me so I had to use a different one..... should hopefully be buying a new one around the end of Oct.And yes I will be turning pots to keep growth uhhh centered or even or whatever you want to call it..... but the added lights should help with the "curvature" hopefully
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Dr. Greenhorn
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Solid update bro, still tuned in and eagerly following
theloadeddragon
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196... fully assembled built in unit, hood and air cooled ballast 5 yr warranty w/out bulb.... shipped...... before 30% discount..... sunblast I think.... can't recall right this second.... Im sure I will post about it excitedly when I set it up (won't be here for a week)
(won't be here for a week)
theloadeddragon
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cool glad you could join us
about 6-8 plants are starting to develop preflowers right now..... I am only interested in keeping 1 Mauii Skunk Male (the most vigorous and desirable) and 1 Twilight male (again the most vigorous and with most desirable characteristics) for pollen.... the rest of the males will be culled out as they are discovered. Time to start building the flowering area up.... I plan on flowering out any of the Extra females for breeding and some extra buds ASAP...... I need the veg space..... gotta go pick up that new light too!
about 6-8 plants are starting to develop preflowers right now..... I am only interested in keeping 1 Mauii Skunk Male (the most vigorous and desirable) and 1 Twilight male (again the most vigorous and with most desirable characteristics) for pollen.... the rest of the males will be culled out as they are discovered. Time to start building the flowering area up.... I plan on flowering out any of the Extra females for breeding and some extra buds ASAP...... I need the veg space..... gotta go pick up that new light too!
theloadeddragon
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I am only going to be able to construct half of the first flowering area at first......
theloadeddragon
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still haven't finished adding in all the new CFL's ..... they are mad at me for it..... they all took the transplants well..... not watered since..... will probably water them tomorrow night
good to hear bro..im transplantin my next round tomorrow.. but i think im gonna have a jungle again instead of my desired sog bc i cut the clones to early and they r gonna have 6 wks veg time.. boo!!!!!!!!! so i been pinchin every thing to make them bush more and grow less... i hope
theloadeddragon
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lol.... I hope that works out for you...... I will just raise the lights and add extra supplemental lighting if they go too high or get too bushed ...... I just want to maximize the space
...... I just want to maximize the space
theloadeddragon
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really?? even with larger bushier plants? less of a yield? hmmmm...... I suppose its all in the method..... there must be a larger numbers difference in the amount of plants that you have
idk i always get nervous around harvest time.. especially when this time im growing in a way i have not in a yr and forgot what to expect.. im sure ill be ok but its harder to judge when the buds r all spaced out instead of concentrated in to 4 or 5 main buds per plant.. idk loaded im scared hold me
theloadeddragon
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you'll be fine bro..... it is what it is ........ do what your soul pushes you to, not what your gut throws at you ....... will work out just fine ........ haven't seen any updates........
........ do what your soul pushes you to, not what your gut throws at you ....... will work out just fine ........ haven't seen any updates........
curious old fart
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I've been following your grows and have learned a lot. Thank you. In your schedule you mentioned collecting and storing pollen, would you please elaborate? Such as when and how to collect and how do you store it?
theloadeddragon
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theloadeddragon
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I am going to have to use sealable bags to collect the pollen (putting the bags over the tops BEFORE the pollen sacs open and fertile pollen is released into the air, they "plump" and the sides splay out the evening before they "pop") the point being to keep the pollen from being exposed in concentration to the flowering room its equipment, and its future constituents unintentionally. By cutting the tops and SEALING them and re sealing them, I hope not to inadvertently spread the pollen through cracks in bags or mishandling. then I will sterilize the room. Then sterilize the room again..... You can watch the process unfold...... stored in the fridge (the pollen) and will be used in the 25-30 days following pollen collection on select females in select portions of the plants, I prefer to introduce pollen to the females no earlier than the second week of full flower and no later than the fourth, and particularly to the lower branch tops and middle top branch tops but not the top tops ...... and I will give the pollinated females a slightly different nutrient schedule than I normally would.
This will all be happening in the not too far future, as they are starting to show sex....... unused portions of the male plants (including unused pollen pods) will be immediately burned in a sealed environment,, and not inhaled by these lungs ..... my biggest obstacle is having the time to ensure this process goes off without any hiccups, I am prepping as much as I can...... taking time off work to just get it done
...... and I will give the pollinated females a slightly different nutrient schedule than I normally would. This will all be happening in the not too far future, as they are starting to show sex....... unused portions of the male plants (including unused pollen pods) will be immediately burned in a sealed environment,
, and not inhaled by these lungs ..... my biggest obstacle is having the time to ensure this process goes off without any hiccups, I am prepping as much as I can...... taking time off work to just get it done
theloadeddragon
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I sure do hope that the 400W is there tomorrow, their closed today so I couldn't call to find out..... I need the space for new genetics.... will check to see if the preflowers are developed enough to determine the sex of any of them this evenning when I raise the lights.... might as well take some pics at the same time.... lol and then some pics when the new light is put in...... lol...... Flowering room will be operational by the 15th of October...... lets cross our fingers that I can manage to stay CLOSE to my schedule outline.......
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