darkdestruction420
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i wasnt only talking to you when i said guys......I meant everybody. lol, guess i should of composed my post a lil different
Obama is agianst potheads!
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JustAnotherFriedDay
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People in general don't think this ban has anything to do with Obama being against marijuana, except for one guy who says government ban of pipes will be next (I don't buy that).
And they certainly don't think this is why shit is hitting the fan in the country right now.
Why this thread is so big is beyond me, although I helped a lot.
However, none of my posts bash the president with conspiracies or anything of the sort.
darkdestruction420
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they are trying to outlaw all cigs pretty much if ya ask me. i do agree with that point. in the last 2 yrs its went from like under 3 dollars for the generic brands and now they are are 8 a pack. pisses me off too bro.
Please explain why flavours make kids smoke? And ill say the same thing about pipes and bongs and the same people that buy this flavored papper bullshit will buy that bullshit.People in general don't think this ban has anything to do with Obama being against marijuana, except for one guy who says government ban of pipes will be next (I don't buy that).
And they certainly don't think this is why shit is hitting the fan in the country right now.
Why this thread is so big is beyond me, although I helped a lot.
However, none of my posts bash the president with conspiracies or anything of the sort.
If he was worried about your children he would stop sending them to die in deserts not spending his time baning bubble gum smokes.
Now if you can explain how this isnt an attack on "rolling pappers" when newports and kools and any other tobacco product that doesnt come in a pack made buy the same company that wanted this ban.
How come no Phillip Morris smokes where included in this ban? Sence this is about smokes? Why not any of the BIGGEST tobacco companys that push to kids gets any of they product taken off the shelf? Why only camel? I think this has more to do with Phillip Morris stocks suck because people are rolling they own smokes.
Yet menthol smokes where made to taste like PEPPERMENT witch is like the first fucking candy invented and yet they stay on the market? Why not ban FLAVORED smokes and NOT pappers?
You guys are not seeing the picture. I can still go buy flavored smokes but what I cant buy is flavored pappers(witch are illegal for kids to buy allready so really you guys are barking up the wrong tree). And you say im supposed to beleive this is to keep kids of smokes? When they can go buy some newports and inhale some fiberglass with that drag they are worried about some fruity flavor? What about fiber glass in the menthols? They want your kids to inhale fiberglass but not fruity flavors?
doobnVA
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Notice the legal age of smoking and the legal age to serve in the military are the same? "Sending your kids to war" makes no sense. those "kids" are also old enough to buy cigarettes legally, and therefore NOT "kids", but legal adults.
Menthol is NOT "peppermint" flavor, not even close.
If they wanted to ban rolling papers, they could simply add them to the definition of "drug paraphernalia" and BAM, instant illegal status. No need to draft a lengthy bill about tobacco regulation if all you want to do is ban rolling papers.
There is no "Philip Morris" anymore. I'm sure you'll find it as interesting as I do that RJ Reynolds (the makers of Camel cigarettes) were also behind this ban, even though it affects a few of their products.
The bill that granted power to the FDA is called "The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act". Nowhere in that is cannabis mentioned, or even alluded to.
It's REALLY about tobacco and not cannabis.
K
Keenly
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cigarettes will NEVER be banned in the U.S.
so dont worry about that
the government makes too much money off of the sales
also, why would the want to throw away a very successful, popular, voluntary, soft kill eugenics tool
so dont worry about that
the government makes too much money off of the sales
also, why would the want to throw away a very successful, popular, voluntary, soft kill eugenics tool
Green Cross
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Taxing cigarettes taxes is hurting mostly the poor.
So much for not taxing the lower class
So much for not taxing the lower class
No they wont and thats the point. They are doing this to ban pappers and blunt sticks thats why the most popular smokes for kids witch are kools(because they make you cool) and newports because thy FUCKING TASTE GOOD!
So yeah that WONT ban smokes because its not what this is about. Thanks for pointing it out.
Some of these guys should just lube up and get ready for the mighty rod they call Obama. I mean damn this isnt the first thing that came up in a ban like this either sence he has been in office.
Democrates also tryed to ban ALL pythons and large constrictors from being owned by pet owners. Now they are banning the export of these snakes FOR THE KIDS!!
I see threw the bullshit because its not just the pappers. It started with my pets went to my rolling pappers if you think this is all they have planned FOR THE KIDS your full of yourself.
doobnVA
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Nobody is forcing them to pay the tax. Don't want to pay it? Don't buy cigarettes.
Those poor people are also the ones who will be sucking up Medicare dollars in a few decades when cigarette smoking finally catches up with them. So, I'd say it's a pretty even trade-off.
CrackerJax
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Obama said taxes would not rise on anyone making less than 250000.... this was the first thing he did...raise the taxes on cig's. Small broken promise, but it was a shot over the bow. Now it's full broadsides.
Nortice how the democrate cant answer questions like ussual and just points out spelling errors. Or notice the ARMY at schools trying to get KIDS to sign up FOR WAR in highschool before they gruaduate.
I mean dude you really are that slow and that crazy? Sloooooooooooowmooow Brian function.
Im stupid but your SLOOOOOOOOOOOW
CrackerJax
New Member
It's all they have......
Did U C Obama on the sunday shows? It was comical and sad at the same time.
Did U C Obama on the sunday shows? It was comical and sad at the same time.
doobnVA
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Nortice how the democrate cant answer questions like ussual and just points out spelling errors. Or notice the ARMY at schools trying to get KIDS to sign up FOR WAR in highschool before they gruaduate.
I mean dude you really are that slow and that crazy? Sloooooooooooowmooow Brian function.
Im stupid but your SLOOOOOOOOOOOW
did I make any reference to spelling errors? No, I didn't. Try again.
What question is there to be answered that I haven't already answered for you? You don't read my posts, then claim I'm dodging your "questions"?
What's slow about realizing the TOBACCO control act is about TOBACCO (see, it's right there in the TITLE!)? Not bongs, not pipes, not rolling papers...
T O B A C C O
Like I've already said at least FIVE times, if they wanted to ban rolling papers they would just DO IT. They don't need the guise of a tobacco control act to ban drug paraphernalia, you know.
Green Cross
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Cigaretes are as addictive as heroin right
That takes "choice" out of the equation
I suppose that's Obama's plan is to kill the poor, and starve their children. After all he knows the facts, and he signed the biggest cigarette tax in history, into law.
doobnVA
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LOL.. you can "choose" to QUIT smoking. Nicotine may be as addictive as heroin, but it isn't as hard to quit.
You realize the money from the tax increase goes to fund CHIP, right? The children's health insurance program.
So, if Obama wanted to kill children - I'm not sure giving them health insurance is the way to go about it. (Though, according to his magnificence Mr. Glenn Beck, "getting well in America can almost kill you"). I don't think "almost" would be close enough, though.
As for poor people being most affected - the USA today article says this:
The federal increase "will fall on those who can least afford it," said Frank Lester, spokesman for Reynolds American. He said one in four smokers live at or below the poverty line.
Hmm.. one in four is 25%, isn't it? Hardly a majority.
EDIT: Cigarettes are pretty cheap here. Less than $4 a pack. Guess that's the perks of living in Marlboro country. Don't worry, the poor can still afford to kill themselves here!
Yeah and the PATRIOT ACT was really PATRIOTIC wasnt it?
Wow you are just like Obama only reading the title of the bills to make your mind up?
So if I made a bill tittle the "Free all Fairys act" but it really ment kill all red headed freckled kids it would be ok for me to sign this bill as leader?
DING FRYS ARE READY!!
doobnVA
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You must have short term memory problems. I've read the bill (and I've already told you that). There are also rules that congress must follow when naming legislation. The "official" name has to indicate what's IN the bill.
PATRIOT, as in the PATRIOT act, is actually an anagram.
Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism (USA PATRIOT ACT)