yoshiplace
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i'm using regular miracle gro soil, which claims to feed plants for up to 3 months. when would it be safe to start using some dilute 20-20-20 on my plants. they are almost three weeks old. thanks!
using ferts with miracle gro soil
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OGKush00
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Change the soil bro, I was heading down the same path as you thinking everything would be cool, 6 weeks into flowering i noticed Fan leaves drying up and dying at a very fast rate, i flushed and tried to keep it from burning them too bad and ended up getting a decent Harvest// however.... That was my first grow... and I will never EVER use miracle Grow Soil along with other nutes again. Horrible idea, I strongly reccomend changing your soil immediately. 
milowerx96
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You might end up with a wilted pile of yellow crap!!!!!! Why in the world would you use miracle grow dirt? If you have to use that nasty bug harboring substance know as potting soil (it sends shivers down my spine just thinking about growing in dirt) get a good bag from the grow store with worm castings and pearlite and peat moss. Or you could go with a nice soiless mix like sunshine mix. using those kinds of products will allow you to use nutrients with less fear of burning up your plants. Even then you want to start with 1/4 strength solution and then ramp it up from there once you are confident you are not over fertilizing. One of the major drags with dirt is is you get your fertilizer wrong it takes forever to fix. I can fix any nute problem I have with my hydro rig in about ten min. just flush and fill.
jwop
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if your plants look hungry ... feed them
if they look ok ... leave them alone until they tell you they are hungry
OGKush00
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Dude.. If you want to maximize your nutes for bigger buds, you cannot use Miracle Gro.... Yeah you can figure out a way to grow with it, but you will not be able to pump in as much Blossom builder as you would like.... Miracle Gro is not the way to go, it can be used to grow with, I did it.... But I will not do it again since I have a choice.
Miracle is fine it's just too strong... use half MG half vermiculite and pearlite (more pearlite = less water held and more vermiculite = more water held). Also don't give any furts until 2nd month and only weak ones. DON'T USE REGULAR MIRACLE GROW... plants are bound to die 4 weeks in.
yoshiplace
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thanks for all the info guys. i have been planning on switching to FF ocean forest (supplemented w/ perlite and extra worm castings) when i transplant in a couple weeks. it's my first grow so i'd rather keep the variables that could mess up my plants to a minimum, and it seems most people do not prefer miracle gro. thanks again for the advice!
DaBeatGoezOn
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Don't nute them bro!!! Just let em grow without the nutes, they'll be fine if you water every 2-3 days.
Cheers
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OGKush00
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that will be perfect, main thing is you don't want those damn time release ferts to pop while you are giving it other nutes cause you will be over nuting.. the FF ocean Forest is the way to go, looks like you are on the road to having a better grow
OGKush00
Active Member
But it's fun to see what you can do to your plant buy giving them steroids!!Don't nute them bro!!! Just let em grow without the nutes, they'll be fine if you water every 2-3 days.
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DaBeatGoezOn
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HAHA amen to that man!But it's fun to see what you can do to your plant buy giving them steroids!!
jwop
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just because you can't figure it out ... doesn't mean it won't workDude.. If you want to maximize your nutes for bigger buds, you cannot use Miracle Gro.... Yeah you can figure out a way to grow with it, but you will not be able to pump in as much Blossom builder as you would like.... Miracle Gro is not the way to go, it can be used to grow with, I did it.... But I will not do it again since I have a choice.
i think the best part of growing pot is tending to my plants
if you just throw em in uber FF and watch them grow, how is that fun?
i hope my plants have some sort of deficiency or burn so i can figure out how to fix it
this is how i learned to fix computers ... by messing them up and figuring it out
Agreed 100%
OGKush00
Active Member
Not that we are scraed to give the MG grown plants nutes, but you would have to give the plants at least half of the reccomended dosage per feeding to avoid nuteburn.. To me that is not the way to grow, but I guess everyone has their own style. I like to put my plant on the edge of nuteburn, without actually harming the plants.. I was doing this quite well until the MG F'd me in the A.. my own fault I guess, but all could have been avoided if I had a controlled growing medium. MG is to unstable for mystyle, I also am the type to tend to my plants regularly... I treat them as if they were my children....
All I can say is that HANDS DOWN my best ever plant was grown with half miracle grow and half vermiculite... It's a decent soil if it has something else added to make it less "hot" to prevent nutrient burn. I use FF Ocean Forest now and grow just as well, only I like the organic side of it. MG can grow a damn good plant and I don't care who says it can only grow a mediocre plant. The only reason I pay so much more for FF Ocean Forest is because it's organic and a lot more forgiving for PH and nutrient levels... or else I'd still use MG with vermiculite and perlite.