9/12 Tea Baggers Video

tom__420

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I believe that doctors would have to prove that the baby would have lived outside of the mother's womb for there to be a second count added. That is very hard to prove
you are wrong my friend... most states do not consider a fetus a life until it has taken a breath... get informed, learn some laws, read up...

killing a pregnant woman is 1 count of murder, with an aggravating clause being that she was pregnant, meaning the DA may argue that you get the harshest penalty in your state.... :mrgreen:
Nice post man bongsmilie
 

doobnVA

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you are wrong my friend... most states do not consider a fetus a life until it has taken a breath... get informed, learn some laws, read up...

killing a pregnant woman is 1 count of murder, with an aggravating clause being that she was pregnant, meaning the DA may argue that you get the harshest penalty in your state.... :mrgreen:
Depends on where you live:

Indiana: An individual who knowingly or intentionally "terminates a human pregnancy" commits feticide. Ind. Code Ann. ' 35-42-1-6 (Burns 1994 & Supp. 1998).
Iowa: An individual who intentionally "terminates a human pregnancy" without the consent of the pregnant woman commits a felony. This law also sets forth other crimes involving the termination of a human pregnancy, such as during the commission of a forcible felony. Iowa Code Ann. ' 707.8 (West Supp. 1999).
Kansas: Injury to a pregnant woman during the commission of a felony or misdemeanor which causes a miscarriage results in specific levels of offense severity. Kan. Stat. Ann. ' 21-3440 (1997). Also, injury to a pregnant woman through the operation of a motor vehicle which causes a miscarriage results in specific levels of offense severity. Kan. Stat. Ann. ' 21-3441 (1997).
New Hampshire: It is a felony to cause injury to another person that results in a miscarriage or stillbirth. N.H. Rev. Stat. Ann. '' 631:1-631:2 (1996).
New Mexico: It is a felony to injure a pregnant woman during the commission of a felony and cause her to undergo a miscarriage or stillbirth. N.M. Stat. Ann. ' 30-3-7 (Michie 1994). It is also a crime to injure a pregnant woman through the unlawful operation of a vehicle which causes her to undergo a miscarriage or stillbirth. N.M. Stat. Ann. '' 66-8-101.1 (Michie 1998).
North Carolina: It is a felony to injure a pregnant woman during the commission of a felony and cause her to undergo a miscarriage or stillbirth. It is a misdemeanor to cause a miscarriage or stillbirth during a misdemeanor act of domestic violence. N.C. Gen. Stat. ' 14-18.2 (Supp. 1998).
Virginia: The premeditated killing of a pregnant woman with the intent to cause the termination of her pregnancy is capital murder. Va. Code Ann. ' 18.2-31 (Michie Supp. 1998). The unpremeditated killing of a pregnant woman with the intent to cause the termination of her pregnancy is also a crime. Va. Code Ann. ' 18.2-32.1 (Michie Supp. 1998). It is a felony to injure a pregnant woman with the intent to maim or kill her or to terminate her pregnancy and she is injured or her pregnancy is terminated. Va. Code Ann. ' 18.2-51.2 (Michie Supp. 1998).


Arkansas: The killing of an "unborn child" of twelve weeks or greater gestation is murder, manslaughter, or negligent homicide. Enacted April 9, 1999, 1999 AR H.B. 1329. (A separate Arkansas law makes it a battery to cause injury to a woman during a felony or Class A misdemeanor to cause her to undergo a miscarriage or stillbirth, or to cause injury under conditions manifesting extreme indifference to human life and that results in a miscarriage or stillbirth.)
California: The killing of an unborn child after the embryonic stage is murder. Cal. Pen. Code ' 187(a) (West 1999).
Florida: The killing of an "unborn quick child" is manslaughter. Fla. Stat. Ann. ' 782.09 (West 1992).
The killing of an unborn child after viability is vehicular homicide. Fla. Stat. Ann. ' 782.071 (West 1999).
Georgia: The killing of an "unborn child" after quickening is feticide, vehicular feticide, or feticide by vessel. Ga. Code Ann. ' 16-5-80 (1996); ' 40-6-393.1 (1997); and ' 52-7-12.3 (1997).
Massachusetts: The killing of an unborn child after viability is vehicular homicide. Commonwealth v. Cass, 467 N.E.2d 1324 (Mass. 1984). The killing of an unborn child after viability is involuntary manslaughter. Commonwealth v. Lawrence, 536 N.E.2d 571 (Mass. 1989).
Michigan: The killing of an "unborn quick child" is manslaughter. Mich. Stat. Ann. ' 28.554 (Callaghan 1990). The Supreme Court of Michigan has interpreted this statute to apply to only those unborn children who are viable. Larkin v. Cahalan, 208 N.W.2d 176 (Mich. 1973). (A separate Michigan law, effective Jan. 1, 1999, provides felony penalties for actions that intentionally, or in wanton or willful disregard for consequences, cause a "miscarriage or stillbirth," or cause physical injury to an "embryo or fetus.")
Mississippi: The killing of an "unborn quick child" is manslaughter. Miss. Code Ann. ' 97-3-37 (1994).
Nevada: The killing of an "unborn quick child" is manslaughter. Nev. Rev. Stat. ' 200.210 (1997).
Oklahoma: The killing of an "unborn quick child" is manslaughter. Okla. Stat. Ann. tit. 21, ' 713 (West 1983). The killing of an unborn child after viability is homicide. Hughes v. State, 868 P.2d 730 (Okla. Crim. App. 1994).
Rhode Island: The killing of an "unborn quick child" is manslaughter. The statute defines "quick child" to mean a viable child. R.I. Gen. Laws ' 11-23-5 (1994).
South Carolina: The killing of an unborn child after viability is homicide. State v. Horne, 319 S.E.2d 703 (S.C. 1984); State v. Ard, 505 S.E.2d 328 (S.C. 1998).
Tennessee: The killing of an unborn child after viability is first-degree murder, second-degree murder, voluntary manslaughter, vehicular homicide, and reckless homicide. Tenn. Code Ann. ' 39-13-201, 39-13-202, 39-13-210, 39-13-211, 39-13-213, 39-13-214, 39-13-215 (1997 & Supp. 1998).
Washington: The killing of an "unborn quick child" is manslaughter. Wash. Rev. Code Ann. ' 9A.32.060(1)(b) (West Supp. 1999).


Arizona: The killing of an "unborn child" at any stage of pre-natal development is manslaughter. Ariz. Rev. Stat. ' 13-1103(A)(5) (West 1989 & Supp. 1998).
Illinois: The killing of an "unborn child" at any stage of pre-natal development is intentional homicide, voluntary manslaughter, or involuntary manslaughter or reckless homicide. Ill. Comp. Stat. ch. 720, ''5/9-1.2, 5/9-2.1, 5/9-3.2 (1993).
Louisiana: The killing of an "unborn child" is first degree feticide, second degree feticide, or third degree feticide. La. Rev. Stat. Ann. '' 14:32.5-14.32.8, read with '' 14:2(1), (7), (11)(West 1997).
Minnesota: The killing of an "unborn child" at any stage of pre-natal development is murder (first, second, or third degree) or manslaughter (first or second degree). It is also a felony to cause the death of an "unborn child" during the commission of a felony. Minn. Stat. Ann. '' 609.266, 609.2661-609.2665, 609.268(1) (West 1987). The death of an "unborn child" through operation of a motor vehicle is criminal vehicular operation. Minn. Stat. Ann. ' 609.21 (West 1999).
Missouri: The killing of an "unborn child" at any stage of pre-natal development is involuntary manslaughter or first degree murder. Mo. Ann. Stat. '' 1.205, 565.024, 565.020 (Vernon Supp. 1999), State v. Knapp, 843 S.W.2d 345 (Mo. 1992), State v. Holcomb, 956 S.W.2d 286 (Mo. App. W.D. 1997).
North Dakota: The killing of an "unborn child" at any stage of pre-natal development is murder, felony murder, manslaughter, or negligent homicide. N.D. Cent. Code '' 12.1-17.1-01 to 12.1-17.1-04 (1997).
Ohio: At any stage of pre-natal development, if an "unborn member of the species homo sapiens, who is or was carried in the womb of another" is killed, it is aggravated murder, murder, voluntary manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter, negligent homicide, aggravated vehicular homicide, and vehicular homicide. Ohio Rev. Code Ann. '' 2903.01 to 2903.07, 2903.09 (Anderson 1996 & Supp. 1998).
Pennsylvania: The killing of an "unborn child" at any stage of pre-natal development is first, second, or third-degree murder, or voluntary manslaughter. 18 Pa. Cons. Stat. Ann. '' 2601 to 2609 (1998).
South Dakota: The killing of an "unborn child" at any stage of pre-natal development is fetal homicide, manslaughter, or vehicular homicide. S.D. Codified Laws Ann. ' 22-16-1, 22-16-1.1, 22-16-15(5), 22-16-20, and 22-16-41, read with '' 22-1-2(31), 22-1-2(50A)(Supp. 1997).
Utah: The killing of an "unborn child" at any stage of pre-natal development is treated as any other homicide. Utah Code Ann. ' 76-5-201 et seq. (Supp. 1998).
Wisconsin: The killing of an "unborn child" at any stage of pre-natal development is first-degree intentional homicide, first-degree reckless homicide, second-degree intentional homicide, second-degree reckless homicide, homicide by negligent handling of dangerous weapon, explosives or fire, homicide by intoxicated use of vehicle or firearm, or homicide by negligent operation of vehicle. Wis. Stat. Ann. '' 939.75, 939.24, 939.25, 940.01, 940.02, 940.05, 940.06, 940.08, 940.09, 940.10 (West 1998).



That's 31 states WITH laws against killing an unborn child, fetus, whatever you want to call it - and 7 states that consider it an entirely separate crime to kill or injure a pregnant woman and her unborn child.


 

redivider

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I believe that doctors would have to prove that the baby would have lived outside of the mother's womb for there to be a second count added. That is very hard to prove
actually medical examiners perform an autopsy on both mother and child and are able to determine if the lungs of the child expanded to the point where air entered them.

i dnt have a view on abortion, i'm not a woman... only women can form an opinion on this... men debating this is pointless, carrying a child is a uniquely female experience... men usually talk about abortion as it being as easy as throwing a piece of trash in the garbage.... it's not as easy... women go through hell before, and after going through this....

i'm just stating what the most common laws in this country say...

only extra conservative states consider killing a fetus murder... others call it other things.... it's just anti abortion laws in place...
 

redivider

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You made that number up lol


Fire department and police department put the number 50,000 to 70,000
dude glen beck said that university space studies put the number in 1.7 million... if glen beck said a university study said that, then it must be right!!! oh, glen beck did not mention which university, which professor, or made any actual reference to who "calculated" that number.... sounds like someone made it up!!
 

Drgreenz

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Obviously your only news source is Glenn Beck. The official estimate was between 60,000 and 70,000 people.
lololol right off the abc webpage, google it, look at the bbc website, they stated upwards of 2 million. the new count from computer models suggest 1-1.7 million. you gotta read more than the state run media page.
ps, i dont watch glen beck and i am in class(college) during his radio show.
 

Joe Camel

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dude glen beck said that university space studies put the number in 1.7 million... if glen beck said a university study said that, then it must be right!!! oh, glen beck did not mention which university, which professor, or made any actual reference to who "calculated" that number.... sounds like someone made it up!!
He couldn't remember. As in How convenient. Or relevant.
 

Wordz

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maybe all the aborted babies would of became democrats and then i'm sure all the republicans would be all for it.
 

doobnVA

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So, instead of relying on crowd estimates from people who were there, live in DC, and know what a crowd of 100's of 1000s of people does to traffic in the area - you listen to people who claim to have counted bodies in pictures that may or may not even be from the day of this protest?

I have friends and family that live and work in DC. They compared the crowd to a large crowd of Nationals fans on game day. Nationals Park has about 42,000 seats.
 

natrone23

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lololol right off the abc webpage, google it,
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=8558055


wow that was hard lol

Matt Kibbe, president of FreedomWorks, the group that organized the event, said on stage at the rally Saturday that ABC News was reporting that 1 million to 1.5 million people were in attendance.
At no time did ABC News, or its affiliates, report a number anywhere near as large. ABCNews.com reported an approximate figure of 60,000 to 70,000 protesters, attributed to the Washington, D.C., fire department. In its reports, ABC News Radio described the crowd as "tens of thousands.
 

Parker

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Kind of reminds me of Jay Leno's "Man in the Street" interviews.

The Left may look at these cherry picked examples as "sheeple," but the numbers that showed up at the capital, and all across the country in home town rallies, should send a message to BOTH parties that there is wide dissatisfaction with the federal government.

Instead of taking from this video that Americans are stupid and misinformed, let's take away that changes MUST be made.
but people are funny

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tom__420

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"Is mary jo kopechne supporting this?"
"I think she is, she was a pretty big ted kennedy fan"

LOL that was the funniest shit i have seen in a long while
 
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