White Widow//Mama Mia//Skunk [Lo-bay Closet Grow]

doogidie

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it depends how yellow. if its still as yellow, youre good to go. ive had way yellower (if thats a word) leaves come back completley on my plant. oh and i got this from a verniculite thread.

I've had a little too much vermiculite in my mix and it was making it hard for the pots to drain off between waterings and i ended up with medium PH problems so i spent last night washing all the vermiculite out with a siv so now im only using expanded clay with charcoal and a little perlite to fill in the gaps at the top , and already this morning my plants are looking much happeir with me.
Im gonna steer clear of it in future myself but i have found out since that u shouldn't use more then 1/3rd in the mix because it causes zinc issues when u use more then that, but i guess every strain is different because one of my strains were showing classic signs of zinc toxicity and the others were fine however i potted them all on the same day and they were all in the same medium.
 

doogidie

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also someone said in that thread that they grew in 100% vermiculite, so i guess it all depends on the grower.
 
also.. What's the deal with vermiculite? I got some yesterday and transplanted my mm plant from the coke bottle into a 1.2gal pot. 50/50 mix with potting mix and vermiculite..

I fed it watered it and its moisture retention is a lot higher than expected.. I thought the stuff airs up soil?? Is 50/50 too much then?
what up jrk152 u told me already a est. Price on the set-up can can u give me a lil more detail i would like to get my material in a few days just havent pieced it all togetha
 

jrk152

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hey bro i was jus wondering whats that shroom there for? and ur grow is looking really good man keep it up
thx man, abt the mushroom I just found it there one extra humid morning coming out the bottom hole of one of my plants lol.

doodigie thx for the info there, might have put too much for the transplanted one but nevermind too late now.
 

jrk152

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Stretching between the nodes has slowed and the flowers startin to put on some mass. Pistils shootin out like crazy, especially on the WW

The mama mia plants are turning out to be a compact one with fatter and thicker leaves than the WW or the bagseed plant.

Still finding the lower leaves going yellow..

PICS

bagseed skunk plant











white widow 1 top



white widow 2 LST



group pic outside



and back inside
 

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jrk152

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Now 21 days flowering, buds startin to fill in.

Yellowing of lower fan leaves got worse today and its moving up.. fed them today with a full dose of all-purpose plant food because of the higher N content it has.

hopefully the feeding puts a stop to this, its reaching the third node already for the white widow plant

anyway, PICS

lst pics


white widow1


bagseed skunk


closet canopy


bud porn: top of bagseed skunk



comments appreciated :eyesmoke:
 

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jrk152

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Yellowing fan leaves got better after the last feeding. fed them today with half dose AN's big bud

Getting these yellow botches irregularly on some of the fan leaves on the white widow. Anyone know what this is?


todays canopy pic
 

newbganjafarma

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o man thats looking good u did sum good ass lst on them bitches;) real good mate.. i actually didnt get to lst my babies.. but fuk i like the bushiness u got on urz... i actually jus did an update on mine let me no wa u think its in teh sig.
 

jrk152

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Starting to give up on the yellowing leaves.. spreading upto the middle leaves now. Its a tricky problem as I don't want to be feeding them too much N at this stage of flowering.. any suggestions?

Anyway.. pics

bagseed skunk
still the most vigourous in terms of side branches and flowers, but the actual buds already fall behind in mass compared to the WW buds. I'm just pleased it has turned out so well for a bagseed plant, and I know exactly what my smoke is going to be like :mrgreen:


bagseed skunk main top


white widow 1 main top


the three 12/12 from seed white widows.. looking a bit underdeveloped for 26 days into flowering? what do you guys think?:neutral:


I released most of the LST ties from the bigger ones as the buds are starting to fill in between the nodes so I'll be letting them grow more or less normally from now on, tying down branches only if necessary. This is the mama mia 1 plant, starting to form a main cola :mrgreen:


mama mia 2, had a rough veg time hence the smaller size but it got back on track once the lights were flipped to 12/12 and looks like its gonna become one single bud.. this one actually has produced the most resin so far, covers most of the top :eyesmoke:


white widow 1 plant, also forming a main cola.. the WW plants have had problems with nutes, soil and havent gone as smoothly as the bagseed or the mama mia plants, but still has the biggest bud development so far :joint::eyesmoke:https://www.rollitup.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=560346&stc=1&d=1253954634


closet canopy pic
The light had to be put higher to let room for the colas to grow into :mrgreen: especially as I won't be doing any training on the mama mia 2 or the 3 baby WWs.



comments appreciated!
:joint:
 

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tkjoe

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maybe use a small amount of AFF. (alaska fish fertilizer) its really low in concentration!!
 

stinkbudd1

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no no no please dont leave me yet i need more bud porn you cant just cut me off cold turkey like that how cruel.. honestly this is one of the neatest and cleanest productives soil grows ive seen at the low cost level keep up the good work. also its nothing wrong with mh flowering just less yeild ive heard but if you add a few cfl's to the mix for a more full spectrum you can recapture the yeild lost just a thought..im using the same basicly mh250 all the way through but at flowering time i add 4x cfl's 42watt and 4xcfl's 23watts closer to the bud sights and as ive seen so far others have turned out great..peace pot prosperity...
 

jrk152

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Thanks for the kind comments all, its good to hear that youre on the right track :)

ryanriot yes I'm flowering with a MH.. started this first grow ghetto and added fans/lights/nutes along as I went.. they're only in the closet for 3-4 hours a day anyway, out in the sun for most of the day.

stinkbudd1 I agree that I'd do better with a few CFLs added, I did have a couple 2700w CFLs in there when I started them flowering but ran out of space quickly and I can keep the temperatures a couple degrees lower without it.. all about weighing up the pros and cons heh.. best thing about the 250w is that I can get it down to 6" away from the tops and keep temps between 77-79. I'll probably be upgrading to a hps for my next round but sticking with 250w rather than a 400w as heat can be an issue in a closet.
 

stinkbudd1

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ladies and gentlemen as you know im always looking for an advantage at less cost to us i ran accross these while doing some reserch yesterday and would like to share them with you all im going to give them a try for sure at this price and the fact that they are metal halide that run off of regular E26 medium household sockets no ballast needed is outstanding....2 of these for veg and add your cfl's for flowering in my case 4x 42 watts 2700k and 4x 26 watts 2700k.. i hope this is good info ..peace pot prosperity


Manufacturer: Plusrite
Manufacturer's Part #: 1002
MH70/ED17/U/4K
70 Watt - 15,000 Life Hours
Color Temp: 4200K
5600 Lumens - 65 CRI
Bulb Finish: Clear
ED17 Bulb - E26 Medium Base
Overall Length: 5.44 in.
Overall Diameter: 2.13 in.
ANSI Code: M98/E
Unprotected- Enclosed Fixtures
Case Quantity: 12
Price Shown is per Bulb

70 Watt Pulse Start Metal Halide Bulbs
70 Watt - Pulse Start - Metal Halide - Enclosed Fixtures - 5600 Lumens - 4200K - ANSI M98/E - Plusrite 1002

Catalog Code: MH-00700
1 to 11 = $11.07 Each 12+ = $9.46 Each Qty


Manufacturer Plusrite Manufacturer's Part # 1002 Order Abbreviation MH70/ED17/U/4K Wattage 70 Watt ANSI Code M98/E Base Type E26 Medium Bulb Finish Clear Bulb Shape ED17 Color Rendering Index 65 Color Temperature (Kelvin) 4200K Diameter 2.13 in. Over all Length (M.O.L) 5.44 in. Fixture Type Unprotected - Enclosed Fixtures Only Life Hours (Avg) 15,000 Lumens (Initial) 5600 Operating Position Universal Case Quantity 12 Price Shown Per Bulb
Additional Information : For Recycling Products Click Here



Manufacturer: Plusrite
Manufacturer's Part #: 1002
MH70/ED17/U/4K
70 Watt - 15,000 Life Hours
Color Temp: 4200K
5600 Lumens - 65 CRI
Bulb Finish: Clear
ED17 Bulb - E26 Medium Base
Overall Length: 5.44 in.
Overall Diameter: 2.13 in.
ANSI Code: M98/E
Unprotected- Enclosed Fixtures
Case Quantity: 12
Price Shown is per Bulb
Plusrite PS MH Spec Sheet


70 Watt Pulse Start Metal Halide Bulbs
70 Watt - Pulse Start - Metal Halide - Enclosed Fixtures - 5600 Lumens - 4200K - ANSI M98/E - Plusrite 1002

Catalog Code: MH-00700
1 to 11 = $11.07 Each 12+ = $9.46 Each Qty


Manufacturer Plusrite Manufacturer's Part # 1002 Order Abbreviation MH70/ED17/U/4K Wattage 70 Watt ANSI Code M98/E Base Type E26 Medium Bulb Finish Clear Bulb Shape ED17 Color Rendering Index 65 Color Temperature (Kelvin) 4200K Diameter 2.13 in. Over all Length (M.O.L) 5.44 in. Fixture Type Unprotected - Enclosed Fixtures Only Life Hours (Avg) 15,000 Lumens (Initial) 5600 Operating Position Universal Case Quantity 12 Price Shown Per Bulb
Additional Information : For Recycling Products Click Here



Manufacturer: Plusrite
Manufacturer's Part #: 1002
MH70/ED17/U/4K
70 Watt - 15,000 Life Hours
Color Temp: 4200K
5600 Lumens - 65 CRI
Bulb Finish: Clear
ED17 Bulb - E26 Medium Base
Overall Length: 5.44 in.
Overall Diameter: 2.13 in.
ANSI Code: M98/E
Unprotected- Enclosed Fixtures
Case Quantity: 12
Price Shown is per Bulb
Plusrite PS MH Spec Sheet
 

stinkbudd1

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these bulbs come in sizes up too 150 but i think after 100 watts you will need mogal sockets and or ballest...not sure but check it out ..ppp
 

jrk152

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Looks great stinkbudd.. a couple of these complete a veg chamber.. except I don't think I can get this easily around where I live.. an online retailer shipping worldwide would be good
 
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