Zig Zag Zane
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haha it sure it man!
Medicinal Garden [WhiteWidoW] 6clones-Outdoor Monsters in ground w/ Organic soil(PIX)
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Mr.
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If anybody knows about the 5-12 certificate please post what you know - I've never heard of it, and the info doesn't seem to be readily available doing an internet search. I'm glad I saws your post Boomer, now I'm aware of the 5-12. I prefer to have all of my paperwork straight as well. Can't believe I've never heard of this 5-12 cert!
greenthumb111
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Your plants look great Boomer. You will have alot of work ahead of you. I have been trimming the JS plants and it takes awhile for just one trader Joes trash bag full.
BooMeR242
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oh i know GT im like so stoked to harvest but at the same time dreading the work ahead. my hands cant handle that much trimming. i think i might harvest the two in the pots first then two in the ground then the remaining two. just kinda space it out. i forgot who said it in sumones thread about lowering the trim workload by removing fan leaves like the week of harvest or like two days before u cut em down. so u only have to trim the smaller leaves and shit off. prob gonna have my biz partner from the indoor grow cme over and be a clipper and make my gf learn to clip too haha. esepcially since her dad wants to try sum of my final product.
LT1RX7 Drifter
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fresh pics i wanna see how shes doing now
captain chronizzle
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the pic of the grow bible book is a book i ordered with a few others and videos bak in fukn march from amazon... took them this fukn long to get it to me!? i had forgotten about it lol. fukn laggers. anyways i havent even gotten to read much of it not like itll do much good since my grow is almost over but maybe sum good info for our indoor grows.
i ordered a book for my low pressure boiler test, and it took like 70 days to get. i had to buy one in town at like three times the cost. it finally came like a month after i had my license. laggers is right. turns out the guy lived on the road, never checked his email, hence the delay. major tool there!
i ordered a book for my low pressure boiler test, and it took like 70 days to get. i had to buy one in town at like three times the cost. it finally came like a month after i had my license. laggers is right. turns out the guy lived on the road, never checked his email, hence the delay. major tool there!
JACKMAYOFFER
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Awesome grow looks real nice...I cant wait for next year gonna grow me some monsters like yours out side...As far as the clinic go you will have zero issues getting it off your hands..I would be more worried about the trim job you have a head of you gonna need a small army...But thats a good thing..
greenthumb111
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Idk, I guess Im old school. I like to do it myself. Its hard but I enjoy preparing it for cure and then curing it and smoking it. Hope you found a place to cure it.
grow space
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You man.
Really fine ass WW trees u got, awsome bro, just amazing.
Mine ww is still in pre-flower, and has a long way to catch your babes state.
Keep up the splendid work mate....
Really fine ass WW trees u got, awsome bro, just amazing.
Mine ww is still in pre-flower, and has a long way to catch your babes state.
Keep up the splendid work mate....
BooMeR242
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thanks jack ya hopefully everything goes well.
and GT im still gonna do most if not all the hand trimming myself i just could use the extra help haha.
its part of the fun but does get old. just gonna put on sum good ol Dane cook and laugh while enjoyin a bowl and trimmin my trees down.
thanks growspace goodluck with ur grow too!
and GT im still gonna do most if not all the hand trimming myself i just could use the extra help haha.
its part of the fun but does get old. just gonna put on sum good ol Dane cook and laugh while enjoyin a bowl and trimmin my trees down.
thanks growspace goodluck with ur grow too!
BooMeR242
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So alot of my days when i have a break to blaze a bowl and grub sum lucky charms in the backyard i just sit and admire the trees ive grown fond of having for the last couple months.
Now from a greenthumb point of view and a lil science and sum strategy. i grew these plants with the help of several books videos and all my fellow RUI ers ive grown to b fond of also.
everyones imput has been very helpful and although most us cant all agree on the same nutes soil strain and grow methods we agree that the herb is good. god made dirt and dirt dont hurt, its just a weed right.
so enough with the wanna be philisophical shit..
watching the plants growth from start to almost finish now in two different enviroments (my outdoor tree grow and my biz partners indoor HPS grow) ive been able to see wat works and doesnt work. The LST method worked great to help develop multipul main colas for my outdoor plants but i over crowded the grow box and seeing that one plant couldve been the same size as all 4 in there now. i also learned that the two outdoors in 10gallon containers are root bound and restricted to size cuz the pot is too small.
then with the indoor OG kush strain under the MH lamp then now the HPS lamps ive watched as my buddy did an incoorect FIM and did a straight chop top and now its recovered but took an extra 2 weeks of veg to equal out.
Now from my observation the growth pattern and structures are similar but all unique.
the LST method done outside has provided me with main stalks and multipul colas. indoors so far they are obviously smaller plants but the plant is developing strong side stems in hopes to have multipul colas also. even tho we did not do LST or a correct FIM this time around.
I love my trees but when i observe where the majority of the bud is being formed its all at the top in the main colas. yes theres good amounts of smaller bud sites thru the middle and on the lower branches but the brancjes are strong enough to support much weight or really be worth it all. so the whole heighth thing seems to be sumwat questionable to me. dont get me wrong im all about go big or go home.but for practical reasons and even commercial growin, i believe that if i wouldve focused on a single bud plant and LST that bitch to grow wider and not so tall id have more colas and be able to stake them up for support. i saw sumones outdoor grow thread in australia he grew like 6lbs from a single sativa bush and it was round. prob easier for maintenacnce too and to stake up since it was a mission for me to stake up my shit and climb up to inspect my colas for pests and mold.
now i understand the reason for more bud development on the top of the canopy and maybe the side where theres space and sun shining cuz the light is directly hitting those bud sites. but wat im considering would b a method of strecthing out the branches wider and focusing on a shorter bush with a solid canopy of colas for indoor and outdoors. since my plants were so crowded my bud development for side buds is very poor. if u were to go inside the garden box bush of trees ull be able to stand up and see that all the main stems goin up to the top canopy are bare and be trimmed off cuz no light penetrates down in. so its a waste of space to me.
from my research seeing other grows outdoors and indoors the concept is the same. maximize ur buds by using ur light source wisely and nutes. i believe i wasted a good portion of my lighting.
but live and learn.
this long essay is more in regards to when i move my grow indoors and attempt 600w HPS per plant and foucus on staying within my medical limit but still yiedling the same expectation of .5-1gram/watt
now i dont want to get off topic with all the other growing details im focused this discussion strictly on the structure and maniplating of the plant.
doin things like LST FIM and topping are diff methods i want to incorporate into my grow to widen the canopy to its full potential and grow massive colas under the right lighting. outdoors this can b done too in theory.
for support (which i failed to really think about before i started) i like hodgegrows basic design with wooden 2x2s making a crossbeam setup. cheap and effective. i myself started off with huge tomato trellis cages that cost $24 each and def helped for support but not tall enough or wide enough. so i would prob design a combination of the two to widen out and creat support for a wide ass canopy. im talkin like a 4-6ft wide canopy (if possible) this is all sake of argument and size will vary from indoor to outdoor.
i had considered the option of adding huge T5 fixtures for side lighting on the walls of my growroom to help promote side growth but dollar wise it didnt seem to be worth it cuz that side bud development wont produce as much as the top colas. outdoors the side of ur plant gets lighting from the natural sun arc from rise to sunset. indoors its simulated lighting but mainly focuses on the canopy.
but anyways im rambling again and just want to see wat u guys think about manipulating the branch/stem growth pattern of the plant to grow wider and create a huge cola canopy instead of the traditional tall xmas/coned like shaped tree.
oh ya heres sum pix and kinda show wat i mean how the LST created 4-6 main stalks from the trunk and that theres no growth in the middle of the plant. its like all the months of vegging was shootin up instead of wide cuz theyre too close together.
The close up shots are the new support beams i put up using PVC piping and sum rope to tie up and give support higher then the tomatoe cages can go.
oh and hope u guys like my ghetto illustration i did real fast to maybe give an idea of wat im talking about with a wider canopy? just imagine it now as a 2D drawing but that is for all 4 sides of the plant.
Now from a greenthumb point of view and a lil science and sum strategy. i grew these plants with the help of several books videos and all my fellow RUI ers ive grown to b fond of also.
everyones imput has been very helpful and although most us cant all agree on the same nutes soil strain and grow methods we agree that the herb is good. god made dirt and dirt dont hurt, its just a weed right.
so enough with the wanna be philisophical shit..
watching the plants growth from start to almost finish now in two different enviroments (my outdoor tree grow and my biz partners indoor HPS grow) ive been able to see wat works and doesnt work. The LST method worked great to help develop multipul main colas for my outdoor plants but i over crowded the grow box and seeing that one plant couldve been the same size as all 4 in there now. i also learned that the two outdoors in 10gallon containers are root bound and restricted to size cuz the pot is too small.
then with the indoor OG kush strain under the MH lamp then now the HPS lamps ive watched as my buddy did an incoorect FIM and did a straight chop top and now its recovered but took an extra 2 weeks of veg to equal out.
Now from my observation the growth pattern and structures are similar but all unique.
the LST method done outside has provided me with main stalks and multipul colas. indoors so far they are obviously smaller plants but the plant is developing strong side stems in hopes to have multipul colas also. even tho we did not do LST or a correct FIM this time around.
I love my trees but when i observe where the majority of the bud is being formed its all at the top in the main colas. yes theres good amounts of smaller bud sites thru the middle and on the lower branches but the brancjes are strong enough to support much weight or really be worth it all. so the whole heighth thing seems to be sumwat questionable to me. dont get me wrong im all about go big or go home.but for practical reasons and even commercial growin, i believe that if i wouldve focused on a single bud plant and LST that bitch to grow wider and not so tall id have more colas and be able to stake them up for support. i saw sumones outdoor grow thread in australia he grew like 6lbs from a single sativa bush and it was round. prob easier for maintenacnce too and to stake up since it was a mission for me to stake up my shit and climb up to inspect my colas for pests and mold.
now i understand the reason for more bud development on the top of the canopy and maybe the side where theres space and sun shining cuz the light is directly hitting those bud sites. but wat im considering would b a method of strecthing out the branches wider and focusing on a shorter bush with a solid canopy of colas for indoor and outdoors. since my plants were so crowded my bud development for side buds is very poor. if u were to go inside the garden box bush of trees ull be able to stand up and see that all the main stems goin up to the top canopy are bare and be trimmed off cuz no light penetrates down in. so its a waste of space to me.
from my research seeing other grows outdoors and indoors the concept is the same. maximize ur buds by using ur light source wisely and nutes. i believe i wasted a good portion of my lighting.
but live and learn.
this long essay is more in regards to when i move my grow indoors and attempt 600w HPS per plant and foucus on staying within my medical limit but still yiedling the same expectation of .5-1gram/watt
now i dont want to get off topic with all the other growing details im focused this discussion strictly on the structure and maniplating of the plant.
doin things like LST FIM and topping are diff methods i want to incorporate into my grow to widen the canopy to its full potential and grow massive colas under the right lighting. outdoors this can b done too in theory.
for support (which i failed to really think about before i started) i like hodgegrows basic design with wooden 2x2s making a crossbeam setup. cheap and effective. i myself started off with huge tomato trellis cages that cost $24 each and def helped for support but not tall enough or wide enough. so i would prob design a combination of the two to widen out and creat support for a wide ass canopy. im talkin like a 4-6ft wide canopy (if possible) this is all sake of argument and size will vary from indoor to outdoor.
i had considered the option of adding huge T5 fixtures for side lighting on the walls of my growroom to help promote side growth but dollar wise it didnt seem to be worth it cuz that side bud development wont produce as much as the top colas. outdoors the side of ur plant gets lighting from the natural sun arc from rise to sunset. indoors its simulated lighting but mainly focuses on the canopy.
but anyways im rambling again and just want to see wat u guys think about manipulating the branch/stem growth pattern of the plant to grow wider and create a huge cola canopy instead of the traditional tall xmas/coned like shaped tree.
oh ya heres sum pix and kinda show wat i mean how the LST created 4-6 main stalks from the trunk and that theres no growth in the middle of the plant. its like all the months of vegging was shootin up instead of wide cuz theyre too close together.
The close up shots are the new support beams i put up using PVC piping and sum rope to tie up and give support higher then the tomatoe cages can go.
oh and hope u guys like my ghetto illustration i did real fast to maybe give an idea of wat im talking about with a wider canopy? just imagine it now as a 2D drawing but that is for all 4 sides of the plant.
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captain chronizzle
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i believe you are speaking of bondage or training your plants. you probably didn't do it outside because you were simply amazed by their growth. if you tie over your branches, they spread and bush out. do that in addition to your lst, topping, fimming technique. i have seen on this site a well trained ww plant with what seemed like a hundred cola's, the plant was only like 2 feet tall. search it out bro.
TCurtiss
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Preach oni believe you are speaking of bondage or training your plants. you probably didn't do it outside because you were simply amazed by their growth. if you tie over your branches, they spread and bush out. do that in addition to your lst, topping, fimming technique. i have seen on this site a well trained ww plant with what seemed like a hundred cola's, the plant was only like 2 feet tall. search it out bro.
greenthumb111
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I was thinking something similar for next years grow. Will be a little more work but maybe more yield too.Preach on
