first time set up,need help

rookie49

Member
hey there, thought about setting up a little grow room in a closet and it worked out with CFL's but I've recently upgraded to a 400w HPS system. This is where I've come into problems, specifically with heat.

My set up is a closet. It's ten feet wide, 2 feet deep, and 8 feet tall. It has a shelf that is about 5'10" high. It also has 2 doors, right next to each other, that both go into the closet.




this is what it looks like from the outside.


This is a simple drawing of what it looks on the inside if i were to remove the doors and the rest of the front wall.



I took some paneling and kinda sealed up the portion of the closet i'm using as the grow room. I used duct tape to seal it to the wall for a mostly light and draft proof seal. The top of the sealed off portion is at the same level the shelf is. The light is a 400w HPS bulb inside of an 8 inch cooltube w/ wing reflector. On the bulb side of the cooltube I have a cheap 3 speed 8" fan hanging and blowing into the cooltube. On the other side of the cooltube I have a 6" diameter section of ducting that hooks up to an 8" inline duct fan from home depot. That inline fan is in a hole on the top right back portion of the panel i used to create the grow room. I have my intake on the front bottom right section on the floor. I had a fan blowing into it, but decided to use the second cheap 8" fan to sit on a shelf in the grow room and point in between the lamp and the top of the plant i have in there. I've hung a thermometer from a piece of chain at the same level as the top of the plants and since i installed the HPS 2 days ago, it hasn't been below 86 with the lights on.

My plant is starting to look a little withered and I really don't want to lose my baby. I want to have the door with the plants in it to be shut most of the time and i don't mind leaving the second one open. I assume one of the issues with my ventilation is because I have the exhaust going into the rest of the closet and have the intake coming from a hole facing the same side of the rest of the closet.

I really didn't want to cut a hole in any of the permanent walls or ceiling, but would it help out a lot more if i just went ahead and cut a hole in the roof or wall to vent my exhaust into in order to get all that hot air out since i'm intaking from the same closet? does it make that much of a difference?

Would really NOT like to cut into the door, that is why i created it's own sectioned off area. I need to be able to close the doors, at least for a little while, without noticing anything going on in the closet. not worried about smell.

I'm open to any ideas, just need to get it cool fast! Thanks for the help.
 

rookie49

Member
and also. Is my light too low? is that part of the problem? It's hanging from the pole there to hang clothes on, about 5.5 ft high. I can't raise it any farther because the shelf is there and in the way. Do i need to find a way to remove this shelf and hang the light higher up in the closet? it's about 12-14 inches away from the top of my plant. I've read that's about the normal distance for a cooltube, am i mistaken? please help me out. thanks
 

nmcpher

Well-Known Member
I'm another newb but i'll try to shed some "light"

I don't think your lighting is too close at all, actually it could probably be closer.

Do you have an exhaust fan in the set up?

It seems like your just bringing in air and blowing it around with the fans, while it heats up. I think you need some type of exhaust on the system as well.

Maybe a more experienced person could help you better.

Good luck though!

and also. Is my light too low? is that part of the problem? It's hanging from the pole there to hang clothes on, about 5.5 ft high. I can't raise it any farther because the shelf is there and in the way. Do i need to find a way to remove this shelf and hang the light higher up in the closet? it's about 12-14 inches away from the top of my plant. I've read that's about the normal distance for a cooltube, am i mistaken? please help me out. thanks
 

c5rftw

Well-Known Member
All that matters in a closet grow, or low space grow is stable temp and good vent
 

tkjoe

Active Member
ventilation is definately the key here maybe have a fan blowing at the passive intake? that might help?
 

rookie49

Member
ventilation is definately the key here maybe have a fan blowing at the passive intake? that might help?
i tried that and it doesn't really help much at all. i know that ventilation is key, which is why i think im gonna have to cut a hole in the ceiling and blow the exhaust into the attic instead of blowing that hot air back into the same room i have the intake sucking from. i guess thats what my main question is, b\c what i have now isnt working, will cutting a hole in the cieling for the exhaust help significantly? i dont want to cut the hole unless im reassured itll help. thank u.
 

tkjoe

Active Member
it definately should help. i didnt realize that your intake and outtake were in the same room haha. if the only way to get the outake in a different room is through the roof, then thats the only way. its to bad youcouldnt get the intake from outside the closet
 

rookie49

Member
I'm another newb but i'll try to shed some "light"

I don't think your lighting is too close at all, actually it could probably be closer.

Do you have an exhaust fan in the set up?

It seems like your just bringing in air and blowing it around with the fans, while it heats up. I think you need some type of exhaust on the system as well.

Maybe a more experienced person could help you better.

Good luck though!
The 8inch inline fan is sucking air out of the cooltube while a fan is blowing air into the opposite end of the cool tube. i do have an exhaust but it doesnt go far once i get it out of the panelled grow area.

well i can leave the door on the right open without messing with the photoperiod in the grow area and help distribute it, but it doesnt seem to help much, just makes my room kinda warm.

also, what temp. should it be at the top on the plant?
 

rookie49

Member
thanks to the people that replied, i went ahead and cut a hole in the ceiling and moved that 8" inline fan to the top sucking from the bulb tip side of the cool tube and have an 8" desk fan blowing into the socket side and it seemed to of helped a lot. covered up the other hole where the fan was and have just the 8" passive intake hole on the bottom.

Look forward to posting a journal when i start another bunch.
 
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