MrHowardMarks
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Right on, Sensizym is expensive... Try without it this time, and use it next round, then you'll see a difference. I didn't notice the carboload packet... Looks like you're set to grow. 
***Official Nutrients Thread***
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DR. VonDankenstine
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The H and G root excelurator is very expensive but in my opinion and testing is one of very few products that actually promotes massive fast root growth. I have been experimenting with the dosage and found the 1ml/gal to do the trick. I will mix in a pinch(1/4 gram beneficial myo fungi) as well. this mix works wonders on your transplants/cuttings/ and seedlings(with seedlings you should wait to feed mix until the 15Th day from the time they sprouted.) I also use this mix for my rock-wool and rooter plug conditioning soaks.
Dr. VonDank
Active Member
You still able to get the 35%?------Had to switch to 10% out in CA----Burn Hazard--I have been rocking with a split growing method for ultra-fast growth while mantaining peak organic taste and smell. --- "MED-DRO ORGANICS"---
.You still able to get the 35%?------Had to switch to 10% out in CA----Burn Hazard--I have been rocking with a split growing method for ultra-fast growth while mantaining peak organic taste and smell. --- "MED-DRO ORGANICS"---
Yeah you know how it goes. If it happens in Cali it takes about 90 days to get to florida....LOL
Dr. VonDank
Active Member
Just wanted to take a min to talk about the ATAMI BLOOMBASTIC----
Some of you may have used Bloom booster by ATAMI in the past and Bloombastic seems to have the same great ingredients but with added PK similar to the ratio's of BIG BUD or KoolBloom. If you have used the product--let us know how it worked for you.
Some of you may have used Bloom booster by ATAMI in the past and Bloombastic seems to have the same great ingredients but with added PK similar to the ratio's of BIG BUD or KoolBloom. If you have used the product--let us know how it worked for you.
Masterofgenetics
New Member
lucas blend start to finish 16ml botanicare problend flower, 8ml tiger bloom (foxfarm), per gallon, with bi weekly supp's of magikal and pro-teck, and bush masters and purple maxx.
Dr. VonDank
Active Member
Could you please go into detail on your use of bushmaster--allot of growers have used the BM and burned there plants---I have used the BM at 1/4 dose w/ 1/4 ppm's then flushed 12 to 24hours with plain water. Post your method.
jigfresh
Well-Known Member
I agree Gravity is great.
I used bushmaster last grow and really loved the effects. I run DWC and when I used the BM I had tiny little tanks.
I used 2 mL/ Gal. Only added two supplements (dutch master max grow and zone)... and those were added at 50% strength. I used NO Nutrients for the duration of the BM run.
I only had th BM in the tank for 48 hours... when I filled the tank again they all got 100% nutes and supps.
I used the BM two slightly different times. I had two tanks and used the same amount in each... only one I ran the 2 days before the switch... the other I ran the first 2 days after the switch. So the 48 of BM... 36 were spent in darkness, 12 hours light, then new water. I didn't notice any difference in how the timing affected things.
The results were just amazing. I would say the growth stopped around the 36 hour mark of having the BM in the rez. The plants didn't get even 1/2 inch taller. However they continued to grow budsites for week or so. I was extremely happy with the tight internode spacing I got... I can't garuntee it was the BM that did that... but I'm sure it helped.
Oh... and it seems to get pistils showing up very quickly. My first grow took 10-12 days to show pistils... with the BushMaster I saw pistils on day 4-6... and I mean a lot of pistils.
I will be using BM on my next grow. I use gravity on all my grows (all 2 so far)... the next grow as well.
I have a bottle of Purple Maxx, but I have never used it because I'm scared.
And for referenceI use Dutch Masters complete line (yeah I'm a sucker), plus Gen Hydro Cal Mag Plus. I am using RO water as well.
The result is below:
I used bushmaster last grow and really loved the effects. I run DWC and when I used the BM I had tiny little tanks.
I used 2 mL/ Gal. Only added two supplements (dutch master max grow and zone)... and those were added at 50% strength. I used NO Nutrients for the duration of the BM run.
I only had th BM in the tank for 48 hours... when I filled the tank again they all got 100% nutes and supps.
I used the BM two slightly different times. I had two tanks and used the same amount in each... only one I ran the 2 days before the switch... the other I ran the first 2 days after the switch. So the 48 of BM... 36 were spent in darkness, 12 hours light, then new water. I didn't notice any difference in how the timing affected things.
The results were just amazing. I would say the growth stopped around the 36 hour mark of having the BM in the rez. The plants didn't get even 1/2 inch taller. However they continued to grow budsites for week or so. I was extremely happy with the tight internode spacing I got... I can't garuntee it was the BM that did that... but I'm sure it helped.
Oh... and it seems to get pistils showing up very quickly. My first grow took 10-12 days to show pistils... with the BushMaster I saw pistils on day 4-6... and I mean a lot of pistils.
I will be using BM on my next grow. I use gravity on all my grows (all 2 so far)... the next grow as well.
I have a bottle of Purple Maxx, but I have never used it because I'm scared.
And for referenceI use Dutch Masters complete line (yeah I'm a sucker), plus Gen Hydro Cal Mag Plus. I am using RO water as well.
The result is below:
Dr. VonDank
Active Member
thanks for the post---I wish they would correct the dosing on the lables like they did with the PM and GRAVITY. I've alwas said the stuff would work wonders on indoor strains that like to run to the roof...lol... someone sshould try that on SOUR D----hehehehe...I agree Gravity is great.
I used bushmaster last grow and really loved the effects. I run DWC and when I used the BM I had tiny little tanks.
I used 2 mL/ Gal. Only added two supplements (dutch master max grow and zone)... and those were added at 50% strength. I used NO Nutrients for the duration of the BM run.
I only had th BM in the tank for 48 hours... when I filled the tank again they all got 100% nutes and supps.
I used the BM two slightly different times. I had two tanks and used the same amount in each... only one I ran the 2 days before the switch... the other I ran the first 2 days after the switch. So the 48 of BM... 36 were spent in darkness, 12 hours light, then new water. I didn't notice any difference in how the timing affected things.
The results were just amazing. I would say the growth stopped around the 36 hour mark of having the BM in the rez. The plants didn't get even 1/2 inch taller. However they continued to grow budsites for week or so. I was extremely happy with the tight internode spacing I got... I can't garuntee it was the BM that did that... but I'm sure it helped.
Oh... and it seems to get pistils showing up very quickly. My first grow took 10-12 days to show pistils... with the BushMaster I saw pistils on day 4-6... and I mean a lot of pistils.
I will be using BM on my next grow. I use gravity on all my grows (all 2 so far)... the next grow as well.
I have a bottle of Purple Maxx, but I have never used it because I'm scared.
And for referenceI use Dutch Masters complete line (yeah I'm a sucker), plus Gen Hydro Cal Mag Plus. I am using RO water as well.
The result is below:
jigfresh
Well-Known Member
Well... I'm gonna get pretty close. Just picked up my clones for the next grow.
Casey Jones - (Sour Diesel x Trainwreck)
Sour Grape - (Sour Diesel x Purple Elephant)
I am putting full faith in the power of bushmaster... I am planning on vegging right up to the roof and applying the BM to stop em. We'll see if it works... if not, haha... you can all come laugh at me.
I won't have a report for a couple months... I want these things about 4 feet tall.
enjoytheday
Member
Looks like I found the right thread but info overload for a noob. Few questions for anyone with a few minutes. Starting SOG aero grow from large clones next week. Grow plans are to start clones in Red Rooter medium in RO till roots show then 1 week veg then flower. Have 3 part Flora and Cal-mag.
Many nute choices from here and didn't want to waste $ on overpriced hyped nutes. Looking for any suggestions nute or not to make it a successful grow. Will post pics.
Great thread.
enjoytheday
Member
Reading posts that suggest manufacturer feeding guidelines are too much. To avoid burning my babies should I start at 1/2 recommended dosage. I do have ph/ppm meter.Looks like I found the right thread but info overload for a noob. Few questions for anyone with a few minutes. Starting SOG aero grow from large clones next week. Grow plans are to start clones in Red Rooter medium in RO till roots show then 1 week veg then flower. Have 3 part Flora and Cal-mag.
Many nute choices from here and didn't want to waste $ on overpriced hyped nutes. Looking for any suggestions nute or not to make it a successful grow. Will post pics.
Great thread.
Thats a great place to start...Then go up about 50 ppm's each time you add water and nutes.Reading posts that suggest manufacturer feeding guidelines are too much. To avoid burning my babies should I start at 1/2 recommended dosage. I do have ph/ppm meter.
enjoytheday
Member
comptonrules
Member
Ok, so here is the low down. I have also experienced "plant burning" when using the dosage that Botanicare calls for. Im running an Ebb&Flo 50G res. I have 1 setup for my Veg side and 1 for my Bloom side. I am a newbie hydro, have plenty of soil (Sunblock 4) experience. I am using PBP Gro, PBP Bloom, Liquid Karma, Sweet "Raw". I have read many different ppm charts, even went onto the Botanicare website and used their ppm chart. I chose my products, and it told me the ppm my res should be at. It was saying my bloom side should be 1100-1282 (depending on the week). BURNT!!! WAY TO HIGH! I lowered it to 860ppm, 6.2 ph, 68 degree water temp. I had cleaned, flushed and refueled the bloom system. That same day I put 9 new plants into that system. Within 2 days I noticed down turned leaves on the new HEALTHY plants that came from Veg. I again lowered the res to 700ppm, all of a sudden the plants went nuts and are growing 1-2.5" a day (scary!! since i am only used to 1"). The Botanicare website said 800ml of PBP Bloom, 150ml L.Karma, 250ml Sweet. The chart stated that blend would be about 1123ppm. Reasonably relative to the amounts (im NO mathemetician lol). Once that was all added, I ph'd to 6.2. I took the ppm readings and it was 860-880ppm. I reread the website, printed the info out and went back to add more nutes to get to the 1123ppm...folks...DO NOT do this! BAD BAD BAD. I have always loved the Botanicare products, especially for soil. Im hoping someone out there that is extremely experienced with Botanicare and Hydro can give me a few pointers. I am using an inline water filter (not RO water) to help clean the chlorine out of it. I change my 50gal res every week followed by a 1 time 30min flush cycle, drain, then refill and nutes added. I add water each day to compensate for the thirst of the ladies and too lower the nute levels back to around 650-700ppm. My room temp is between 78-81 (at the end of the 12 hr cycle it is at 81, but takes until about the 10th hour to get past 79). I have no root rot issues, no fungi issues, and no pest issues. I do not use CO2, but have such good air movement (will add that in a few small crops). At the time I have too many variations in strains, am limiting that factor right now. I am down to only 4 strains out of 9 (couldnt decide what i liked most lol). I realize strains have different likes and dislikes. So some of my issue is satisfying all the options for the differences in the room. I am mainly watching the Purple Diesel I have and basing all of my likes/dislikes from that strain, as it will become the only keeper soon. I have not been using hygrozyme, but have been thinking it might be a good option since my water temps get a bit higher than I would like and I know it helps when using a more Organic based nute. Please, experienced Hydro growers, talk to me, Is watching your plants health the best judge of nute levels, or am I possibly getting burning from other sources (and no my lights arent too close...18-24" away from plants 1K HPSx4).
Down turned leave tips, obvious browning of leaves edges followed by extreme brown burnt areas on entire leaves. From everything Ive read that is to high of nute levels...(this is my main quesiton, but why does botanicare want such a HIGH ppm?)
Down turned leave tips, obvious browning of leaves edges followed by extreme brown burnt areas on entire leaves. From everything Ive read that is to high of nute levels...(this is my main quesiton, but why does botanicare want such a HIGH ppm?)
jigfresh
Well-Known Member
To sell more product.
About the burning, not sure why you would be getting it with ppms round 800. Makes sense running them at 1150+ but shouldn't that low. I've never used hygrozyme, but I like using Dutch Master zone to keep the bad stuff away. Not sure if it works with 'more organic based nutes' though.
Why you running a 50 gal rez? Seems like a lot of water and nutrients to buy.
3 more things... you are the first person to post in this thread for about a year, so not sure if you will get too many responses. And use the 'enter' button a little more. That massive block of text is kinda hard to read. Lastly, pictures are invaluable. Post some up if possible.
Good luck with everything.
comptonrules
Member
Yah, sorry for the BLOCK of text lol
Ok, Im not sure why either. Something that I ran across on the forums was a post, From what I am deducing after reading this...I have several different defficiencies.
It appears as though my 6.2ph for bloom side is a bit high? Everything I am reading is saying dont go over 6.0ph for hydro mediums. It seems as though I am locking out N, Mg, Ca. I have a mixture of issues. They are all pointing to this problem. It says on all 3 counts that ph over 6.0 is a problem. I am going to lower to 5.6-5.8.
Funny enough, my Veg side (24hr light cycle) was at 6.0ph...maybe that is exactly why they are 100% healthy on the Veg side, but running a 6.2ph on bloom side is locking those 4 items out???
Ok, Im not sure why either. Something that I ran across on the forums was a post, From what I am deducing after reading this...I have several different defficiencies.
It appears as though my 6.2ph for bloom side is a bit high? Everything I am reading is saying dont go over 6.0ph for hydro mediums. It seems as though I am locking out N, Mg, Ca. I have a mixture of issues. They are all pointing to this problem. It says on all 3 counts that ph over 6.0 is a problem. I am going to lower to 5.6-5.8.
Funny enough, my Veg side (24hr light cycle) was at 6.0ph...maybe that is exactly why they are 100% healthy on the Veg side, but running a 6.2ph on bloom side is locking those 4 items out???