1st real grow with 6 Floresence

Greenthumbwannabe

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This is my first grow, found a room and now BLAM started germination on 8-13 we have plants aeroponic and soil. Currently using CFL'S plant/aquarium and daylight bulbs (3200 lumens per bulb) Using Hygrozyme and Super Thrive, started at 50% now doing a flush. Were about 15-17 days from seed today (started germination a few seeds a day). Two plants are doing horrible, one has massive welting and spots. The other i believe is suffering from ripped root tips during trans plant fom soil to areo baskets, tries to rip off to much composit cube. Now starting last night noticed there is a spot on my "Big Momma" Im currently fushing but WTF. Please any help please post, any advise please post. these first set of pics are from 8-23
 

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Greenthumbwannabe

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These are the 8-27 pics. Notice the poor little dark colored plant, then there is the weling brown spotted plant??????WTH whats up guys why did this happen to 1 of 4. Same water in all four
 

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That sucks man, Looks maybe like nute burn are the lights real close and hot? There has been 40 views in this thread and nobody but a newbie is trying to help this guy.
 

YoungJedi

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It might be to soon to be giving nuts to them. I am no Md or Phd in this field but from the stuff I have been reading here, I think I can safely say its too early for the nuts
 

Greenthumbwannabe

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I watch this guy on youtube who was painted all green and started off at 10% for 2 weeks then went full 100%. I used a dropplet in my germination water and it made the med seed crack 10 hours faster. I have been on nothing but 5.8 ph water, no nutes since thursday night. My big soil plant showed 2 small yellowish spots the spead to the edge then turned white, its still small but why did it turn white. I hope the flush helps, I transplanted my biggestest plant (witch is soil not aeroponic) into a larger pot and the root were hanging out of the composit cube. Looked a lot like the cube covers and advertisements.
 

Greenthumbwannabe

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Here is a pic of the biggest one. ( 17 days from seed) The yellow spots turned white then moved toward the outer edge?????? NOT SURE, It has been on %50 percent nutes<superthrive and hygrozyme> since sprout. Now its been on pure water 5.8 ph since thursday night??? Please post some help
 

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Karloff

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I'm no expert but the one thing I see on here alot is people using nutes too soon.
You might need to do the eight step recovery program I took this from another site but I think it's on here it might be from Roseman, he's one of the master growers also you might want to check out the Bubbleheads posts they're full of useful info.
Good luck and be patient with the nutes.



THE 8 STEP RECUPERATION AND RECOVERY REMEDY

1. Check the roots. If they are discolored, reddish or brown, or present an unpleasant odor, you have a problem. If they are weak, soft or mushy, you have a problem. Also while checking the roots, observe the temperature of the water. If it is warmer than "luke warm" you have a problem. This problem is probably what is referred to as "root rot" or a disease known as PYTHIUM. Remove the dead brown roots by trimming them away with sharp scissors. Do not leave them in the tank.
2. Check the humidity and temperature of the grow area below the lights in the "growing zone" when the lights are on. A temperature of above 87 degrees or below 67 degrees will slow growth, but it is not a serious problem that will kill your plants. Temperatures below 62 degrees or above 92 degrees will stop growth. An extremely high temperature in the upper 90s or below 58 degrees can slowly result in death of your plants. The most efficient temps for growth are between 72 to 84 degrees. Any Humidity between 40 and 60 percent is acceptable and desirable.
3. Check the "lights off, nighttime" temperature. Most desirable is ten to 15 degrees cooler than the daytime "lights on" temperature, averaging 66 to 72 degrees.
4. Check the distance between the tips of the plant and the tip of the light bulb. If you observe yellowing or leaf curling tips, then move the lights one inch further away. A good rule of thumb if you use HID lights, is hold the soft palm of your hand at the leaf tip and see if the bulb is too warm to your hand. If you use Stealth Hydro's compact fluorescent bulbs, we recommend a distance of three inches for the 65 and 85 watt bulbs and 4 inches to five inches for the 105 watt bulbs. More mature plants can handle the bulbs slightly closer.
5. Check the position of your fans. Air movement is very necessary for the health of your plants, but too strong of a fan can cause wind burn. Direct your fan toward the tops of the plants and toward the lights. Never position the fan blowing strongly downward on the leaves. If oyu have varible speeds, use the SLOW speed.
6. Add 2 teaspoons of hydrogen peroxide to a quart of water and add it to the tank of six gallons already in the tank. Wait ten minutes and then turn the water and nutrition solution pump off to prepare to drain the tank. Poor at least a cup of clean water through each grow cup, onto each rockwool cube and through the hydroton rocks.
7.Drain or pump the tank empty as possible without damaging the pump by running it dry. Add two gallons of additional clean water with 1 teaspoon of hydrogen peroxide again and then drain it away too. Again, empty the tank as empty as possible without burning up your pump.
8. Add fresh PH balanced water and nutritional packets as prescribed. PH test it again.

The above 8 steps should repair and remedy any health problems that your plants experienced within the next two days. Now is the time to try and determine what caused the problem to start with, by investigating and researching typical hydroponics problems and illnesses. Here are a few DIAGNOSIS TIPS.
 

hater hurter

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too early for that, his plants will barely have any roots.

i'm not sure. i've had the brown spots before from accidentally getting water on them under intense heat but yours looks different.
 

itsgrowinglikeaweed

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Whats up with the 5.8 ph water? Thats too low for soil. You want high 6's in soil.
PH problems can result in spots, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.
No nutes for 3 weeks from sprout in soil.
You are going to over water your plant. Even if I tell you that you will overwater it, you still will. Just try not to overwater it TOO bad ok? MJ likes dry conditions more than wet ones.
Try to relax and let the plant grow on its own.
 

Greenthumbwannabe

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All thats sounds good. As far as the roots go i have a very good amount of root comming through the bottom of the baskests, ranging from 3/4 inh all the way to 5 inches with those cool looking rib things branching off there is a little brown root on the smallest plant, i will cut that sucker off asap. I did not know that soil needed a higher ph. to be honest i studied for aeroponic then the budget fell into a little of both, so the soil i dont know i add little water( probably to much) then hope and watch. I added the nutes so early because this strain i have is medical 1024 manufacture says it take 2-3 weeks veg and 75-80 day flower
 

Greenthumbwannabe

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ill post the newest pic later today, I will tried to get one of the roots. What ph do i use for soil, i heard something about testing runoff??
 

Greenthumbwannabe

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pH Fluctuation

Both of these leaves in figure 3 and figure 4 are from the same plant. It could be over fertilization, but more likely it is due to the pH being off. Too high or too low a pH can lock up nutrients in the form of undisolvable salts and compounds, some of which are actually toxic to the plants. What then happens is the grower then tries to supplement the plants diet by adding more fertilizers, throwing off the pH even more and locking up even more nutrients. This type of problem is seen more often in soil mixes, where inconsistent mixing of the medium's components leads to "hot" spots.


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now this is mine
 

Greenthumbwannabe

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Ok i have the soil ph level at more like 6.4-6.6 I have been using about 6-12 oz of water a day dependig on how dry the soil looks The pot i have is 8 1/2 " wide and 7" in height
 
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