Feminized Seeds Hermie Test - 14 strains, which are high risk; frequency; DM Reverse;

bicycle racer

bicycle racer

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you have not grown too many properly produced fem seeds that much is clear as i have said before i have had as many if not more herm issues from standard male/female seeds as i have had with fems. i dont know what people do to make plants herm so easily. i have even grown seeds from grows i knew were produced from a herm situation and grew them to harvest without issue. i have properly produced fems of my own creation right now in week 6 or so of flower in 100 plus temps theyll be fine and wont herm. its all a matter of method regarding selection of female candidates and proper chemical induced reversal very simple.
 
Scamstopper

Scamstopper

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bicycle racer,

Your right, I don’t buy fem seeds and do not reproduce with herms. So I must defer to your experience with them.

It seems that if a chemically induced fem is made from what would have been a male, that the amount of that chemical must be enough to fully reverse it’s natural gender. Too little and it would produce some halfway hem.

Also, if a hem pollinated it’s self or another hem it would produce hem seeds. I know there is always some genetic diversity and throw backs but I mean in general.

Do you think chemically induced hems that don’t make it to full fems can pass on that trait in it’s genetics?

Also do you think the hormone used for feming may interact with the hormone responsible for triggering the flowering stage? The freaks I got seemed to lack the light sensitive hormone responsible for flowering.

I know in genetic research they are finding that when one trait is altered that it can alter other traits. This was fruit flies but plants may be the same. I think this field of science may be to young to know yet but so far it seems there may be a connection.

What do you think?
 
SnowWhite

SnowWhite

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Scamstopper said:
I just saw this thread and can’t believe anyone would want to use hermaphrodites or any other freak plant as seed stock. If you use freak parent plants you will get freak seeds and on and on.

In short, buying feminized seeds, making them from hermaphroditic parents and or hormonal alteration, picking off male parts and hoping to not pollinate your whole crop is all a waste of time and the wrong way to go.

Use natural genetic variations from un-altered male and females seeds, look for a super-breed (the best characteristics you want) out of as many as possible. Then clone! clone! clone!

There’s no need to buy feminized seeds over and over. It’s too much money, hassle dealing with orders, hermaphrodites, mutant plants, etc.

This article explains what I have posted in more detail.
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As the title says, it's a 'test'. He's testing the stability of feminised genetics. How can he test feminised genetics and not use feminised seeds? I think you're missing the point. Don't be a hater just cos you personally don't like fem seeds. Lots of people grow with them and are interested in this little experiment hobbes has going on.
 
Scamstopper

Scamstopper

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SnowWhite,

I don’t mean to discourage testing, I am big on testing myself.

It just seems like to clone a known fem supper plant is more efficient. But if he is doing it just for the fun of it, that wouldn’t mater. I may be to into results, than having fun with my tests.

I do put hems and mosquitoes in the same category so I may be predigest against them. Thanks for the comment. I will be more open minded.

I am curious about the technology though.
 
SupraSPL

SupraSPL

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As far as I can tell all of Greenhouse offerings are all fem now. Arjan explained his interest: http://www.youtube.com/user/greenhouseseeds
So far the fem seeds I have seen have been negative (naners on Dutch Passion Blueberry).

Despite that, I cannot deny that I am interested in the color code Sativa Mix Greenhouse is offering. Mared Juwan, did you make it all the way to harvest banana free?
 
SnowWhite

SnowWhite

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Scamstopper said:
SnowWhite,

I don’t mean to discourage testing, I am big on testing myself.

It just seems like to clone a known fem supper plant is more efficient. But if he is doing it just for the fun of it, that wouldn’t mater. I may be to into results, than having fun with my tests.

I do put hems and mosquitoes in the same category so I may be predigest against them. Thanks for the comment. I will be more open minded.

I am curious about the technology though.
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cool man. No one wants hermies, but shit sometimes happens. Even with non fem seeds. Hobbes is trying to 'treat' the hermies and see how they respond. I love it, fair play to him!

But there is no reason you can't select a good stable mother from fem seeds.
 
oscaroscar

oscaroscar

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I've looked through this thread and i can't see a report on sensi's Jack Flash #5 at the start you mentioned it. Is it to come? I've currently got 3 on the go, 2 weeks into 12/12, a bit early to herm yet but i've heard they do herm quite easily. I'll give you report every couple of weeks as they progress.
 
Hobbes

Hobbes

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"sensi's Jack Flash #5 at the start you mentioned it. Is it to come?"

Oscaro I've still got the feminized seed. I've got Kali Mist flowering and waiting through another long flowering strain put me off JF#5 for now.

Please report on your grow as often as you'd like, I'd like to know what I'm getting in to when I germ my seed.

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bongsmilie
 
oscaroscar

oscaroscar

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Here are my Sensi jack flash#5 at just over 3 weeks in 12/12. I've got 3 of them all from seed and showing 3 different phenos one is big which i think is probably the sativa dominant and one short and bushy and the other is in the middle. There is no sign of herming yet (he crosses his fingers). They have had a bit of stress which was the light being too close (a 600w hps in a cooltube) they've had a bit of bleaching coz of that but they didn't burn thanks to the cooltube.
The last pic is of a Greenhouse super silver haze which is the same age as the jack flash and has been flowering for the same time too with no sign of herming (yet). The SSH has been a real pain in the arse to grow. I have 2 SSH both from fem seeds and they have been growing really slow and look feeble and weak the pic is of the best one. I can't remember if the SSH was on the list at the start of this thread, i'll include it in my weekly updates in this thread if you want me to.
 
oscaroscar

oscaroscar

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I've just gone back and looked at the 1st page again and the GH SSH is on the list so i'll include it if you'd like me to.
 
DontDoDrugs

DontDoDrugs

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this is a great thread. but im looking for info on Seedman Fem seeds. are they good fem seeds or will they go hermi? im thinking of getting a few strains from them but idk if it will be a waste of money.
 
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