"The larger the gun, the more menacing the situation,"

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
so what's any different than 10 years ago? we've been in debt FOREVER. who really cares?

now, back to hitler. who gets gassed first? grandma? :hump:



 

Big P

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so what's any different than 10 years ago? we've been in debt FOREVER. who really cares?

now, back to hitler. who gets gassed first? grandma? :hump:

i say we throw grandma under the bus:clap:


you care about the debt clock cuz its going to collapse the united states of america

its was bad before and with all these trillions in new spending the collapse of the complete economy is nearer than you think


only differece is there will be noboby to bail america out like california had

the liberals destroyed californias economy. the people voted for thier state to collapse but your right who cares
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
1984 we took a field trip to DC and NEW YORK i saw the debt clock then. it was going hella fast.

it's not like we weren't in debt 20 years ago. WTF? :roll:
 

Big P

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so what?

are you hearing me?

you owe a dime you owe a dollar.

so what?

hello?

so its not sustainable and the coutry is going to collapse.




I want the greedy polititions on both sides to stop destroying my country thats all. I was hoping my kids could live in america and have thier children here.
 

Bud Frosty

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A debt is all well and good... till someone gets called on it.

How do you say,

"YOU PAY NOW!"

in chinese?


Maybe after they get big and bad enough, ... we'll find out.
 

Big P

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i'm not betting on it. :)

prolly some good advice


so say if america disapears one day where is the next best country to live in?



im thinkin maybe somwhere in the bahamas:mrgreen:



I was also wondering isnt aruba owned by Holland, does that mean we can smoke weed there freely?
 

CrackerJax

New Member
cracker i meant to ask how old are you, you already retired?


are you some sort of finacial guru?
Yes, I am retired.... I should say semi....I got bored. I don't work for money anymore, meaning I'm not in any push to perform except on my schedule.

I retired at the age of 45 and am now 50. I turned 50 just a couple of weeks ago. Wee!!

I wouldn't call myself a guru, just very able at spotting trends and getting in there first.

This also slides nicely with politics and let's me find the true trends through all the BS covering them up. There's alot of noise out there, and without good filter skills, ppl get lost and give up and just float along helpless and unprepared.

Opportunities are ALWAYS out there... but if you aren't PREPARED to take advantage of them....they go right on by to the next guy.... maybe me. :wink:
 

Big P

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Yes, I am retired.... I should say semi....I got bored. I don't work for money anymore, meaning I'm not in any push to perform except on my schedule.

I retired at the age of 45 and am now 50. I turned 50 just a couple of weeks ago. Wee!!

I wouldn't call myself a guru, just very able at spotting trends and getting in there first.

This also slides nicely with politics and let's me find the true trends through all the BS covering them up. There's alot of noise out there, and without good filter skills, ppl get lost and give up and just float along helpless and unprepared.

Opportunities are ALWAYS out there... but if you aren't PREPARED to take advantage of them....they go right on by to the next guy.... maybe me. :wink:

nice I used to dabble in penny stocks,


made six g's in one day litterally doubled my money, anyway once all said and done i lost the 6 g's I made plus another 8 g's and ran away as fast as I could:weed:


now I just stash my money in my house by paying it off. that way I dont have to rely on any bank:-P


everyone said I was stupid cuz I could just put that money in the market instead and make more money. but after the economy imploded guess who everyone was calling Mr Smarty pants:lol:
 

CrackerJax

New Member
I don't know your location but real estate is dead and gone and not coming back as a retirement vehicle.

It's in the timing like everything. About 3 years ago, right as the trends pointed to the burst (I was about 6 months off on the crash) I pulled ALL the equities out of ALL my properties. Now they were GIVING money away at that point....so I got a 4.5% loan with heavy negotiations involved (yes you can negotiate...shhh they don't like it when I tell ppl). But I was waving a heavy loan in front of them so they capitulated (Cracker FTW). Now as I watched (sadly) all of my brand new neighbors late in the game lose 50% of their investment (all in the timing), I invested heavily in oil and fertilizer (phosphate to be specific), and made a killing. My neighbors (and most ppl) watched their retirement vehicles disintegrate before their eyes. I still don't think it has dawned on them how far behind the 8 ball they are right now, but I don't say a word to them about it. They have enough worries and will find out anyways.

Money is like water in the ocean...it moves around.... you need to trap it and be watchful of the tides. Move it around if the tide is going low....and get it where the tide is rising.

By the way...those charts you posted are the wall we are going to hit at full speed. Be ready for it.....
 

Big P

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I don't know your location but real estate is dead and gone and not coming back as a retirement vehicle.

It's in the timing like everything. About 3 years ago, right as the trends pointed to the burst (I was about 6 months off on the crash) I pulled ALL the equities out of ALL my properties. Now they were GIVING money away at that point....so I got a 4.5% loan with heavy negotiations involved (yes you can negotiate...shhh they don't like it when I tell ppl). But I was waving a heavy loan in front of them so they capitulated (Cracker FTW). Now as I watched (sadly) all of my brand new neighbors late in the game lose 50% of their investment (all in the timing), I invested heavily in oil and fertilizer (phosphate to be specific), and made a killing. My neighbors (and most ppl) watched their retirement vehicles disintegrate before their eyes. I still don't think it has dawned on them how far behind the 8 ball they are right now, but I don't say a word to them about it. They have enough worries and will find out anyways.

Money is like water in the ocean...it moves around.... you need to trap it and be watchful of the tides. Move it around if the tide is going low....and get it where the tide is rising.

By the way...those charts you posted are the wall we are going to hit at full speed. Be ready for it.....

im in the southeast in a fast growing city. my property value has gone up suposedly like $40,000 and ive only owned it for 4 years but I could be wrong about that i went to that site zillow and they estimate you home value.

my parents built a house in the same city maybe more than 10 years ago for 400k and suposedly thier house now is worth 800k already but i cant be sure

maybe you can let me in on one of your super secret trends and ill pay you a percentage of all my earnings:bigjoint:


you remeber that guy alan stanford that duped so many people out of thier money. I have a relative who had 500K invested in his company:o I was about to lock and load but luckly he was able to get all his money back by the court cuz he had refused to let them put his money in that antigua scam, he said they were promising things that seemed to good to be true

I hope that fucker gets killed in jail, imagine if you lost all your life savings to a pig like that I would go apeshit






hes rotting in jail as we speak:bigjoint:


came out recently he was complaining that his jail cell was too hot what a little bitch:clap:


 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Ok I think we all know why citizens show up to these meetings with guns. they do it to show they are ready to fight for what they believe in, its a veiled threat, sure, but they have the right to do it. Every political event i have ever been to, there are Secret Service, Local police, US marshals, Sheriffs, etc etc etc. and everyone of them is packing heat and will use it if they need to. The people bringing assault rifles are just showing them that Joe six pack is capable of that too, and that if the politicians do not want to listen to us, then they will have revolution.
 

fdd2blk

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Ok I think we all know why citizens show up to these meetings with guns. they do it to show they are ready to fight for what they believe in, its a veiled threat, sure, but they have the right to do it. Every political event i have ever been to, there are Secret Service, Local police, US marshals, Sheriffs, etc etc etc. and everyone of them is packing heat and will use it if they need to. The people bringing assault rifles are just showing them that Joe six pack is capable of that too, and that if the politicians do not want to listen to us, then they will have revolution.
the secret service is there to "protect", apparently your gunman is there as a "threat"(your words). 2 totally different things.

you're gonna blow holes in me because i won't listen to you?
 

Big P

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the secret service is there to "protect", apparently your gunman is there as a "threat"(your words). 2 totally different things.

you're gonna blow holes in me because i won't listen to you?

unfortunaly this is how it works in the middle east. I do not recommend it:shock:


Unless you got a really really really good reason, like really good.:weed:

 

CrackerJax

New Member
im in the southeast in a fast growing city. my property value has gone up suposedly like $40,000 and ive only owned it for 4 years but I could be wrong about that i went to that site zillow and they estimate you home value.

my parents built a house in the same city maybe more than 10 years ago for 400k and suposedly thier house now is worth 800k already but i cant be sure

maybe you can let me in on one of your super secret trends and ill pay you a percentage of all my earnings:bigjoint:


you remeber that guy alan stanford that duped so many people out of thier money. I have a relative who had 500K invested in his company:o I was about to lock and load but luckly he was able to get all his money back by the court cuz he had refused to let them put his money in that antigua scam, he said they were promising things that seemed to good to be true

I hope that fucker gets killed in jail, imagine if you lost all your life savings to a pig like that I would go apeshit






hes rotting in jail as we speak:bigjoint:


came out recently he was complaining that his jail cell was too hot what a little bitch:clap:



I'm glad, but statistically your house should be down 40%. There are pockets of resistance depending on your locale. Now, I said the real esate market is finished as a "retirement vehicle". One of the reasons is the govt. keeps insisting on messing with the markets...whicjh will give us waves of what just happened. This isn't over,....it's just beginning. Again, try not to think of the house as the retirement vehicle as opposed to the equity which is the real investment. If the equity looks like it's going to be in for a big drop....pull it the heck out of that home shell at a low rate of interest and get it where it can grow at a higher rate. even if you only get a tie....you'll be well positioned when the uninformed and flippers are shaken out. There is only one glaring problem. The places that are growing....is shrinking quickly. It will take even better analysis to miss the hazards of the financial golf course.
 
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