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breakneck

Calyx LED
Those are looking good Joe!

Here is mine, today is day 11. Lot's of new growth. This is going to be a dense bitch... all the inter-nodal foliage is growing by the hour!
 

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Joe Camel

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Are you feeding yours yet?
Did you see the yellowing on mine?

What about the 3 part gh nutrient question I had.
I'm just curious cause I want to feed to day and dont want to fuck up a good thing,

~~Joe~~
 

breakneck

Calyx LED
I would use all the nutes you plan on using from the get-go. Like 1/5-1/4 strength is what I would start with. The yellowing could be that the soil is neutral and it NEEDS some of the nutes! That's my guess, she needs some N!

I am not feeding anything other than a drop per gallon of superthrive and 1 drop of Schultz 2-7-7 per gallon - this has been the same since day 1.
 

Joe Camel

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I would use all the nutes you plan on using from the get-go. Like 1/5-1/4 strength is what I would start with. The yellowing could be that the soil is neutral and it NEEDS some of the nutes! That's my guess, she needs some N!

I am not feeding anything other than a drop per gallon of superthrive and 1 drop of Schultz 2-7-7 per gallon - this has been the same since day 1.
Coo breakneck. Thats what I figured too. I'm starting with a super low dose.

~~Joe~~
 

breakneck

Calyx LED
Yeah that will be fine. They look healthy as hell they should handle it fine!

----out to blaze a camel filty haha
 

NewGrowth

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Hey Joe check out Mandala's site for soil feeding guidelines with various brands of hydro nutes. http://www.mandalaseeds.com/html/fertilizing_.html

According to Mandala GH should only be used at 6% strength for soil!

GH is a three part system and the bottle labeled "Micro" should always be used along with either "Grow" or "Bloom".

Be careful hydro nutes are very concentrated and if used improperly with soil can cause major problems.

Looks good so far :peace:
 

dangledo

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You still think I'm too dumb to understand what you are saying . . . .:wall:

I really understand, you don't have to explain any further, and 10 in below your canopy is not getting 55,000 lumens as much as you would like to believe it.

And Jorge Cervantes has not done decades of research, 90% of his material is stolen from other sources.
Once again your opinion and no facts.......
Do you think science book information was all one guys idea?
Grow books are information gathered from sources from around the world and collaberated.
The grow bible was first introduced in 1983. more than 2 decades. (he clearly gives credit to growers that submit info, regardless of author).
my Nextgen ballasts will push a light closer to its potential than any other...
So how about giving some facts, and less opinion....:clap:
 

NewGrowth

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Once again your opinion and no facts.......
Do you think science book information was all one guys idea?
Grow books are information gathered from sources from around the world and collaberated.
The grow bible was first introduced in 1983. more than 2 decades. (he clearly gives credit to growers that submit info, regardless of author).
my Nextgen ballasts will push a light closer to its potential than any other...
So how about giving some facts, and less opinion....:clap:
You should bring it up in the Jorge C thread I linked a couple pages back.

Get a light meter and check for yourself, a friend did tests with his light meter on the new Digi ballast (Lumatek) and the claim of more light output is false. Digi ballasts put out just as much light. Although I hear they are making "digital" lamps made for digital ballasts that are supposed to have a better growing spectrum and put off more light.
 

Joe Camel

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Hey Joe check out Mandala's site for soil feeding guidelines with various brands of hydro nutes. http://www.mandalaseeds.com/html/fertilizing_.html

According to Mandala GH should only be used at 6% strength for soil!

GH is a three part system and the bottle labeled "Micro" should always be used along with either "Grow" or "Bloom".

Be careful hydro nutes are very concentrated and if used improperly with soil can cause major problems.

Looks good so far :peace:
Thanks New Growth I saved that info. That is just awesome. i knew I had to water it down but not that much. damn !!

So going by the Ec scale instead of 25% of the recommended dosage really is about 6%

Man I need a meter. Thanks anyways :bigjoint::bigjoint:

~~Joe~~
 

dangledo

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You should bring it up in the Jorge C thread I linked a couple pages back.

Get a light meter and check for yourself, a friend did tests with his light meter on the new Digi ballast (Lumatek) and the claim of more light output is false. Digi ballasts put out just as much light. Although I hear they are making "digital" lamps made for digital ballasts that are supposed to have a better growing spectrum and put off more light.
I do have a light meter- Hydrofarms cheaper digital.
-IMO- when I used a 1000 watt I wasnt getting nearly as much light when it was 2 feet down and 2 feet away(perimeter), as I am now with more of a light spread, and 14 inches closer.
As far as heat and distance, I had many of problems with 1000w. Including buying an air conditioner-more power. Upto 105 degrees if left unattended, creating foxtailing-less dense buds. And incredible hot spots. I now use two hoodless 400w (usually 3)that get my 4x8x7 ft. room no more than 81 degrees, with just exhaust and circulating fans. And have virtually no shade spots and no weak light spots.
my two lights are above one 48''x48'' square. 10'' above canopy. I also move them side to side everyday. More usable light....
Mind you I use this light method for Scrog.
Harvesting close to a gram a watt on same set up with old ballasts.
Tried, tested and true....

Lumateks are known for their hot digi ballasts(mine got upto 125 degrees and shot shit in one year). Thats why I went with the best, nextgen (only two).:leaf:
 

Joe Camel

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Breakneck I 'm lovin the Camera pics. Looks like we're growing neck and neck. Too cool.

JRK your baby is looking healthy kudos.

~~Joe~~
 

stonedloner

Active Member
Looking good joe, it's cool that you & breakneck are fairly well matched in your grow schedules. I'm enjoying seeing them come up from seed, mine are from clones.
Are those fem seeds, & is that really true or must you still anticipate some males?:blsmoke:
 

ripdamon

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Man those little boogers look stressed.
I still cant believe those are 27 days old.
The first two look nute burned bad.

I think you need to flush out that soil.
run about three time the size of the containers with just Ph water. Hopefully that will get them to start growing again.

Thats just my opinion. Maybe let some of these WW masters on here comment as well. Hang in there RIP

~~Joe~~

Thanks I cant be leave how short they are. the stems are purple. And i have mastered the temperature . I CANT understand what is wrong.Thanks for your help. I am going to pray for god to spare there lives. lol:fire:
 

ripdamon

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Damn 27 days? Are you giving them nutrients? What kinda water are you using? pH? ppm?

Looks like a flush with R/O or distilled water should work like the above poster mentioned.

I was giving them Nuts but I stopped because this forum said STOP!! :)

I am using tap water.But I set the ph to 6.4.
It is potting soil and vermiculite and per lit.
There is suppose to be no nuts in the soil.But what I had been adding witch was Foxfarm.It is the 3pack.

Thanks for your interest in helping me.
 
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