Right Wing nutjobs show their asses at another townhall (Again).

what... huh?

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See what I mean?

The roman authority was able to keep its conquered lands by leaving the governing bodies in place, (the Sanhedrin in the case of the Jews) but holding ultimate authority over them. The Jews cried for Him to be crucified for blasphemy, claiming to be the "king of the Jews"... because His bloodline is that of God.

Luke 22
70Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am.
71And they said, What need we any further witness? for we ourselves have heard of his own mouth.


Luke 23
1And the whole multitude of them arose, and led him unto Pilate.
2And they began to accuse him, saying, We found this fellow perverting the nation, and forbidding to give tribute to Caesar, saying that he himself is Christ a King.
3And Pilate asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answered him and said, Thou sayest it.
4Then said Pilate to the chief priests and to the people, I find no fault in this man.

That is particularly important, as Pilot did not find fault with the claim that he forbade tribute to Caesar... and his corruption of the people was spreading the Gospel... and of course being the son of God... which is what they were pissed about... and why he was killed.

5And they were the more fierce, saying, He stirreth up the people, teaching throughout all Jewry, beginning from Galilee to this place.



20Pilate therefore, willing to release Jesus, spake again to them.
21But they cried, saying, Crucify him, crucify him.
22And he said unto them the third time, Why, what evil hath he done? I have found no cause of death in him: I will therefore chastise him, and let him go.
23And they were instant with loud voices, requiring that he might be crucified. And the voices of them and of the chief priests prevailed.
24And Pilate gave sentence that it should be as they required.



35And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God.
36And the soldiers also mocked him, coming to him, and offering him vinegar,
37And saying, If thou be the king of the Jews, save thyself.


Treason:
1. betrayal of country: a violation of the allegiance owed by somebody to his or her own country, e.g. by aiding an enemy.

Blasphemy:
1. a : the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God b : the act of claiming the attributes of deity.




Buhbye.
 

PVS

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it would have been an embarrassing and insulting affront on the roman empire to enforce jewish scripture in any way.
the charge related to jesus claiming himself 'king of the jews', jews who were governed by rome. therefore it could be
translated to high treason. that was the charge. declaring himself king of anyone or anything on roman territory.

OF COURSE there were ulterior motives but the official charge would never have been blasphemy. this was a roman
state execution based on roman law.
 

what... huh?

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Oh... you are still here...


I'll start a thread. Wasn't meant to be a thread derailment... just a quick aside.

It will be in the spirituality section... where I guess it belongs.
 

BadDog40

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Wow, someone will have to explain this one to me. Is he saying that the world wide web is only possible because of US tax dollars. Or is it a reference to my public education and how those tax dollars made it possible for me to learn sentence structure?
Both. The internet backbones were originally put in place by the govt and was used only by them and colleges. They were eventually turned over for public use by the Clinton administration.
 

Rob Roy

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Says the guy who wouldnt be able to write such idiotic statements if it wasnt for other peoples tax dollars.
Are you referring to Public schools?
Don't home schoolers often score higher on tests than kids from public schools?
 

Anjinsan

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Not all republicans are racists! But all racists are republican!
Completely false and insulting.

Listen I hate both groups right now...but I've met some truly wonderful people from both sides of the fence. Do not become a pawn of the media. Actually talk with/hang out with people from all walks of life. I have and I discovered we are all pretty similar in the end.

We all want comfort and security...and to have some fun from time to time. Guys of all races/classes generally like sports and are knowledgeable about atleast one team. Women all are extra big on the security/comfort angle...not so much into the sports deal and their idea of having fun is more likely to involve shopping of some sort.

Stop thinking in terms of groups. Stop believing that group B is your enemy. Stop believing that group A is your friend. You are being brainwashed for the purpose of keeping you docile.

The government is more likely to be your enemy than are some people your age with a different skin color.
 

hater hurter

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problem with that anjin is most of the repuublicans i've tried talking too are so uneducated about what's going on there's no point. they hear things that scare them and that's all they can focus on.
 

Anjinsan

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problem with that anjin is most of the repuublicans i've tried talking too are so uneducated about what's going on there's no point. they hear things that scare them and that's all they can focus on.
Have you tried to NOT talk about politics?

Seriously how the fuck do you expect to get to know people when you start with a conversation where you have opposing viewpoints?

They do not exist to please you politically. That is not their goal in life. If you only want to be around people that agree with all of your educated opinions...you are going to lead a very dull life I'm afraid.
 

MickFoster

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Completely false and insulting.

Listen I hate both groups right now...but I've met some truly wonderful people from both sides of the fence. Do not become a pawn of the media. Actually talk with/hang out with people from all walks of life. I have and I discovered we are all pretty similar in the end.

We all want comfort and security...and to have some fun from time to time. Guys of all races/classes generally like sports and are knowledgeable about atleast one team. Women all are extra big on the security/comfort angle...not so much into the sports deal and their idea of having fun is more likely to involve shopping of some sort.

Stop thinking in terms of groups. Stop believing that group B is your enemy. Stop believing that group A is your friend. You are being brainwashed for the purpose of keeping you docile.

The government is more likely to be your enemy than are some people your age with a different skin color.
With all due respect - if you're not a racist then how is my statement an insult to you? I'm talking about the extreme right wing bible thumping christian hypocrites who believe in the so-called bible and vocalize their racist and radical political views in public. They are all republicans!
 

what... huh?

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It is really more a discussion of the Roman empire than the bible... but you go on and put those blinders on and forge ahead.



Can't see for the life of me what you would be afraid of.
 

hater hurter

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Have you tried to NOT talk about politics?

Seriously how the fuck do you expect to get to know people when you start with a conversation where you have opposing viewpoints?

They do not exist to please you politically. That is not their goal in life. If you only want to be around people that agree with all of your educated opinions...you are going to lead a very dull life I'm afraid.
yes, i've talked about things other than politics and by the way you sound like a real asshole by assuming that i think they are here to please me. i'm not a 10 year old child but like you said i have an opposing view and that seems to make you think you can belittle me with the way you talk.

you shouldn't assume especially when you know nothing about that subject you are making the assumption about, that truly is what a 10 year old would do.
 

Anjinsan

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yes, i've talked about things other than politics and by the way you sound like a real asshole by assuming that i think they are here to please me. i'm not a 10 year old child but like you said i have an opposing view and that seems to make you think you can belittle me with the way you talk.

you shouldn't assume especially when you know nothing about that subject you are making the assumption about, that truly is what a 10 year old would do.
Well you won me over!

The calling me a 10 year old part was what sealed the deal.

Couldn't resist for even 5 minutes could ya?
 

what... huh?

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With all due respect - if you're not a racist then how is my statement an insult to you? I'm talking about the extreme right wing bible thumping christian hypocrites who believe in the so-called bible and vocalize their racist and radical political views in public. They are all republicans!
Your statement contradicts itself.

Just out of curiosity... do you know where the KKK started? It was the strong arm of the democratic party, meant to illicit voter intimidation of the republicans... who have historically been against racism. It was the democrats which put forth Jim Crow laws. The civil rights act was voted for by 60% of democrats... 80% by republicans... The republicans were responsible for freeing the slaves, and the 13t 14th and 15th amendments guaranteeing equal protection, voting rights etc for blacks.

The republican party has a long established history of equality... and the democrats were in staunch opposition.

I don't know that the bible OR the republicans promote racism.

I think racists do.
 

hanimmal

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I find it interesting that the democrats and republicans were the same party for a long time.

Didn't the Republicans come into power only after the Jim crows laws started being enacted? I need to read up some history of this again.
 

what... huh?

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No... the republicans split and came to be over slavery... (sort of... really states rights vs federal... but it was over slavery).


Lincoln was a republican. Jim Crow came during reconstruction.
 

natrone23

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Your statement contradicts itself.

Just out of curiosity... do you know where the KKK started? It was the strong arm of the democratic party, meant to illicit voter intimidation of the republicans... who have historically been against racism. It was the democrats which put forth Jim Crow laws. The civil rights act was voted for by 60% of democrats... 80% by republicans... The republicans were responsible for freeing the slaves, and the 13t 14th and 15th amendments guaranteeing equal protection, voting rights etc for blacks.

The republican party has a long established history of equality... and the democrats were in staunch opposition.

I don't know that the bible OR the republicans promote racism.

I think racists do.
keep going.... what about the sixties and so on, you know recent history.
 
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