First Grow: Bagseed (Hopefully very successful with some luck and a shit ton of TLC)

[Tamuuli]

Would it be worth it buying reflective material for the seedling box? all 3 of the walls are white but only one of them are flat, the other 2 are ripply white wall paint (haha don't know what to call it, see pic below). Would the other 2 walls create hotspots?

If I should get something what is the best reflective material I could use? I know mylar sheets would be optimum but i dont think they sell that shit by me. Ive also heard mylar emergency blankets but I keep on hearing about them creating hotspots, unwanted heat and humidity (more humidity i wouldn't mind tho).

 

[woolypudding69]

The way the wall is painted is called "textured". I use tin foil and have not had a single instance of hotspots. Ive read a lot of conflicting ideas on foil and made the decision that I like it, that is until I can paint the walls a really nice white, which Im thinking of doing tomorrow morning sometime. Tin foil and emergency blankets, as well as the backside of some brands of xmas wrapping paper all can be used because they have high reflectivety. Im in the pro camp, but its entirely up to you.
I look at it like this, I have a fan on my plant while my lights are on, wind= leaf movement, how can a hotspot hurt my plant if the leaves are constantly being blown around?? They cant is my deduction.

 

[Tamuuli]

The way the wall is painted is called "textured". I use tin foil and have not had a single instance of hotspots. Ive read a lot of conflicting ideas on foil and made the decision that I like it, that is until I can paint the walls a really nice white, which Im thinking of doing tomorrow morning sometime. Tin foil and emergency blankets, as well as the backside of some brands of xmas wrapping paper all can be used because they have high reflectivety. Im in the pro camp, but its entirely up to you.
I look at it like this, I have a fan on my plant while my lights are on, wind= leaf movement, how can a hotspot hurt my plant if the leaves are constantly being blown around?? They cant is my deduction.

Thanks dude, I really didn't think about that leaves moving thing, good theory man.

Yeah i was gonna put up some tin foil today, but believe it or not, im out! haha so i was thinking that since im gonna have to spend money to buy something anyways, might as well get some proper reflective material. I think im gonna pick up some emergency blankets tomorrow if I can't find mylar (finally got my car back from the shop ).

I would give you +rep but its not letting me haha

Also dude, I know u LST'd your plant, u think its worth taking the risk of lower yields or stunning the plant to become a male or hermie?

 

[woolypudding69]

Low stress training is pretty easy on a plant. As for the yields, Im showing 5 new tops so I think overall its going to increase my yield. And the plant really took to it, the node growth has really started to bush out. As far as I know its not known for causing stunting or hermies, and in my case my plant seems to love me for it!
Thanks for trying to give me +rep, no worries mate its the thought that counts!

 

[Tamuuli]

Low stress training is pretty easy on a plant. As for the yields, Im showing 5 new tops so I think overall its going to increase my yield. And the plant really took to it, the node growth has really started to bush out. As far as I know its not known for causing stunting or hermies, and in my case my plant seems to love me for it!
Thanks for trying to give me +rep, no worries mate its the thought that counts!

Well, by low stress training i kinda meant topping, Im almost positive im gonna separate branches by tying them. I used to be 100 percent for topping till i read a thread about an experiment where this guy grew one plant to medium size and one he grew big (clones of the same mother). In the end, he ended up getting a lot more off the medium, i think because the medium plant got to concentrate more on growing bud then size, but idk. Also i dont know if i can bring my self to cut the top, it just doesn't seem natural or good for the plant haha plus they are my littles man!

 

[woolypudding69]

Well, by low stress training i kinda meant topping, Im almost positive im gonna separate branches by tying them. I used to be 100 percent for topping till i read a thread about an experiment where this guy grew one plant to medium size and one he grew big (clones of the same mother). In the end, he ended up getting a lot more off the medium, i think because the medium plant got to concentrate more on growing bud then size, but idk. Also i dont know if i can bring my self to cut the top, it just doesn't seem natural or good for the plant haha plus they are my littles man!

See LST, or low stress training, is the tying down of the stem, making the top lower than the rest of the plant, it fools the plant into making more tops.
Now cutting the top is called topping, and like you said, it just doesnt seem natural, its not really, it creates way more stress the LST. But it does happen in nature sometimes, like a deer coming and biting off the top of the plant, or a bug eating it, or whatever may end up making it happen.
Tho this stresses the plant, it can be benificial. It all comes down to what you want to do. Experiment a little with plants you dont really care about. Thats what I use males for. You have to be careful with males tho, when you see balls forming, cut em off!

 

[Tamuuli]

See LST, or low stress training, is the tying down of the stem, making the top lower than the rest of the plant, it fools the plant into making more tops.
Now cutting the top is called topping, and like you said, it just doesnt seem natural, its not really, it creates way more stress the LST. But it does happen in nature sometimes, like a deer coming and biting off the top of the plant, or a bug eating it, or whatever may end up making it happen.
Tho this stresses the plant, it can be benificial. It all comes down to what you want to do. Experiment a little with plants you dont really care about. Thats what I use males for. You have to be careful with males tho, when you see balls forming, cut em off!

Haha so by me saying that i meant topping by LST, I actually meant that i accidentally said LST. The reason I got is wrong originally is that i was gonna ask how satisfied you were with LST but then I started asking what ur opinion on topping was

 

[nellyatcha]

Welcome to my first grow fellow potsmokers

Background: Me and my partner in crime started with 7 bagseeds at his house planning on germinating all of them, but unfortunately we lost 3 of the seeds and from the other 4 only 2 germinated. I am a so to say complete newbie to growing cannabis but I have spent hours and hours reading threads, books, guides, etc. on how to grow so I like to believe I am very well prepared.

Set up:
Soil: Ferti Lome Ultimate potting mix (for now, getting FF Ocean ltr)
Seeds: 4x Bagseed. The bag they came from had really dank bud but it was filled with seeds. Hopefully not a Hermie plant
Lights: started sprouts with 2x 23 watt 6500k daylight, added another 2 a couple days later and adding more as needed.
Location: Friends Closet
Nutrients: Fox Farms Tri nutes
Temp/Hum control: Can change both with air conditioning to my will. My temperature is always 69-81 and humidity is 31-37
Names: for now 1 (Aka Mary) and 2 (aka Jane).

Day 1 (Aug 4th, 10pm): Put 4 seeds in shotglass with bottled water *hope arrowhead water is good for germinating*

Day 2 (Aug 5th, 10am): Moved seeds on a plate between two sheets wetted with distilled water and under a bowl

Day 3 (Aug 6th at night): 2 of the seeds show roots. Gonna let them grow more overnight.

Day 4 (Aug 7th, 10.30 am): Planted 2 seeds in red party cups *I think soil might be a tad too moist, but never really watered plants before soo...*

Day 5 (Aug 8th, 2 pm): Started 16/8 Cycle (on at 8a off at 12p) with 2x CFL. pH for both aprox 7. Humidity: aprox 34 %. Temp: right now at 78
(Aug 8th, 8.30 pm): *I See them!!!. 2 seems more developed* -Pic 1 * Mary is one the left and Jane on the right
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Day 6 (Aug 9th, 8.20 am): *Jane is standing up aprox 1/2 in -pic 1. Mary showing leaves but bent over - pic 2
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(Aug 9th, 6 pm): *Mary is reaching for the sky! -still small and weak looking tho but thats ok, i have faith in her!*
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(Aug 9th, 8 pm): Mary is about 1/2 in, Jane 1 in

Day 7 (Aug 10th, 10.30 am): Lights 3 in from Jane and 4 from Mary. Mary= 1in Jane= 1 1/4 in
View attachment 506522 -*Should i be paying attention to stem color differances? (Mary=brown. Jane=purple red ish)
(Aug 10th, 2.50 pm): Just built new seedling box/area with +2 CFL - still needs mylar tho which ill be getting in the next few days (where do you find mylar?) *My babys are going to love ther new home *
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Day 8 (Aug 11th, 10 am): Watered with pH 6 water cuz pH was too high. *Mary= showing kind of odd growth but not too shabby. Jane= True leaves are coming in great! *. both of their pH level is 7 now
pic 1=Mary. pic 2= Jane. pic 3= Mary Jane (Jane is on the left now)
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Ill be updating this thread pretty much daily as i spend half of my day looking at the plants anyways haha

PS: Feedback is more then welcome!

go to walmart and go to the sporting good section and buy emergency blankets they look just like mylar and is more better to use and get a fan on those plants , and rotate them 180 degree turns everyday

 

[nellyatcha]

Would it be worth it buying reflective material for the seedling box? all 3 of the walls are white but only one of them are flat, the other 2 are ripply white wall paint (haha don't know what to call it, see pic below). Would the other 2 walls create hotspots?
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If I should get something what is the best reflective material I could use? I know mylar sheets would be optimum but i dont think they sell that shit by me. Ive also heard mylar emergency blankets but I keep on hearing about them creating hotspots, unwanted heat and humidity (more humidity i wouldn't mind tho).

e-blankets dont cause hot spots, but it does keep heat in and adds humidity , but good shit i use them

 

[Tamuuli]

go to walmart and go to the sporting good section and buy emergency blankets they look just like mylar and is more better to use and get a fan on those plants , and rotate them 180 degree turns everyday

yeah dude, ur kinda late haha i was doing that exact thing tomorrow. Thanks for the try tho man

Although I don't rotate them traditionally, I kinda rotate them as I feel would be good for them. Im gonna start rotating them 90 degrees every day when I start vegetation.

 

[Shackleford.R]

Are the cabinet doors gonna be open or closed? U got any pics of your design?

3 lbs will be a very nice personal sac! haha. I suggest that you take a two clones from each of the strains (1 female 1 male) and then keep them going in a vegetative room until after you harvest and cure. After you harvest remember to keep all the different kinds of weed in separate bags, smoke a joint of all of them and then pollinate the 2 strains that got you the most fucked up

why pollenate when you can clone?


Shack

 

[Tamuuli]

e-blankets dont cause hot spots, but it does keep heat in and adds humidity , but good shit i use them

Word dude thanks for that, made me feel better about solar blankets, almost bought something else

 

[Tamuuli]

why pollenate when you can clone?

Yeah dude when I buy seeds im def gonna keep a mother and clone, I just suggested pollinating because you get a big quantity of seeds (seeds also grow faster and have a higher pest and disease resistance; clones taken from a flowering female take a while to revert back to vegetation), but mainly because then you could have your own strain (more personal and you can try to get the best features of both you favorite plants). But yes cloning would be a very good option aswell

 

[dababydroman]

haha look how long it took for noone to saya anything bout it sayin tlc

 

[Tamuuli]

haha look how long it took for noone to saya anything bout it sayin tlc

what do you mean man?
tlc= tender love and care

 

[Shackleford.R]

Yeah dude when I buy seeds im def gonna keep a mother and clone, I just suggested pollinating because you get a big quantity of seeds (seeds also grow faster and have a higher pest and disease resistance; clones taken from a flowering female take a while to revert back to vegetation), but mainly because then you could have your own strain (more personal and you can try to get the best features of both you favorite plants). But yes cloning would be a very good option aswell

seeds grow faster? do you know what you're talking about?
just because you read a book doesnt make you a w33d baronz.

i'll grant you developing a personal strain. but its not just one pollination and bam you're done!

first generation has this or that wrong with it, you have to inbreed with one of the original strains, and so and so forth, i won't really talk about the subject because i'm not botanist (yet!! i am in school) and have never done the work.

but it is not as simple as you may think.

you're still concerned about odor control in your parents house.. don't get uppity and speak as if you know it all.

i don't know it all either, i'm still finishing up my first grow.

at any rate, any user should feel justified in saying "don't go around giving advice if you don't have the personal first hand experience"

i started a plant from seed, she went into flower, i cut clones on the third day, i had roots in 12 days.. and 3 1/2" tall plant, try that from seed.



Shack

ps dont take my tone as "eff you" but more of a "welcome to RIU" someone put me in my place early on, and honestly i feel like a better grower/user because of it.

 

[greensister]

The entertainment center is 2 tier. The top part where the TV would go will the the veg area, and the bottom cabinet, where people would put movies and that will be the cloning/germination area.

I no longer have any flowering males so i cant make seeds this time around, unless someone upwind of me is growing as well. I have many seeds that i have been collecting throughout the summer and ill have enough smoke to keep me going until my indoor grow is ready.

Do you have drainage holes in your cups right now? I have also heard that in the seedling stage, when there are 3 sets of true leaves on your plants, if you cut the amount of light, lower the temp, raise the humidity, and give lots of N, there is a stronger chance that your plants will be female. I think this may have some merit as to the experiment i did where the plants that had the least amount of N from the beginning produced the most males, and the plants that were giving high N early on produced the most females. They all received the same amount of light, temperature, and humidity, so it wasnt a comprehensive experiment, but none the less, i feel i learned something.

 

[Tamuuli]

seeds grow faster? do you know what you're talking about?
just because you read a book doesnt make you a w33d baronz.

i'll grant you developing a personal strain. but its not just one pollination and bam you're done!

first generation has this or that wrong with it, you have to inbreed with one of the original strains, and so and so forth, i won't really talk about the subject because i'm not botanist (yet!! i am in school) and have never done the work.

but it is not as simple as you may think.

you're still concerned about odor control in your parents house.. don't get uppity and speak as if you know it all.

i don't know it all either, i'm still finishing up my first grow.

at any rate, any user should feel justified in saying "don't go around giving advice if you don't have the personal first hand experience"

i started a plant from seed, she went into flower, i cut clones on the third day, i had roots in 12 days.. and 3 1/2" tall plant, try that from seed.



Shack

ps dont take my tone as "eff you" but more of a "welcome to RIU" someone put me in my place early on, and honestly i feel like a better grower/user because of it.

clones may be taller quicker (duh), but yes I prefer seeds.

And yes I know making your own strain takes years and years of re breeding, etc to get the wanted features, but fuck man, i frankly don't give a shit, id like to be able to say that hey man, this is my strain.

Yeah so what if im concerned about odor control? I was just asking a guy with a good fucking idea what he thought of my edition to that idea.

And no, I dont know it all but jesus fuck, all im doing is just trying to help people be able to start a grow or correct a problem, because you can't actually learn all your shit from online, experience is the best teacher. Im not claiming to "know it all" im just passing on the info that more experienced growers have thought me (books, threads, etc.) so what the fuck is wrong with that?

Welcome to RUI my ass, i bet your just one of those guys that has no fucking real life and comes onto RUI to act like a big boy and barks out everyone else.

So im gonna ask you nicely now, Get the fuck off my thread! peace motherfuck

 

[Tamuuli]

The entertainment center is 2 tier. The top part where the TV would go will the the veg area, and the bottom cabinet, where people would put movies and that will be the cloning/germination area.

I no longer have any flowering males so i cant make seeds this time around, unless someone upwind of me is growing as well. I have many seeds that i have been collecting throughout the summer and ill have enough smoke to keep me going until my indoor grow is ready.

Do you have drainage holes in your cups right now? I have also heard that in the seedling stage, when there are 3 sets of true leaves on your plants, if you cut the amount of light, lower the temp, raise the humidity, and give lots of N, there is a stronger chance that your plants will be female. I think this may have some merit as to the experiment i did where the plants that had the least amount of N from the beginning produced the most males, and the plants that were giving high N early on produced the most females. They all received the same amount of light, temperature, and humidity, so it wasnt a comprehensive experiment, but none the less, i feel i learned something.

Nice, that sounds like a really good plan. What we are gonna do if we order legit seeds is were gonna make one of the shelves where just random shit goes our seedlin area, where shirts are hung, vegetative area and another area where clothes are hung that is a lot taller the flower area.

Yeah i do, 1 have 4 bigger ones on the side and 4 smaller ones in the center. Could just be that the holes aren't big enough too, didn't really know how big they should be (I read something about it but I forgot it and was too lazy to find it again haha).

That is correct, thats what i was reading in Jorge Cervantes book. Im not sure but I think he was saying that ever since the seed sprouts you should do those things. I try to keep my temps in the low 70's, Humidity I cant really make higher but I try to overwater a bit rather than underwater (dont know if this helps). I was also thinking of actually diluting piss in 1:20 solution to increase nitrogen, but it kinda doesn't feel right so im gonna have to sleep on that. Do you know if i have to continue these conditions into vegetation too?

 

[Shackleford.R]

i really was being nice. by the way, you do have to be 18 to post here.
i really was trying to be helpful, a cocky attitude doesn't lead to better grows, just leads to shitstorms like this one.
i will gladly leave your thread, but honestly it was all in the name of opening your eyes and ears.
you learn nothing by coming here and making a big, loud and proud statement "I know what I know, and don't give a fuck about your thoughts."

i do have a real life by the way, i was being polite, you're being the tough guy.

now lets stop arguing and do what we came here to do, grow some pot!!

truly no disrespect intended ORIGINALLY, but now.. i'm not so sure.


Shack