db297
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Welcome D. Sounds like you will be able to give us some good advice. Cool
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hater hurter
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requesting membership, i have exactly 0 grows under my belt. i am just starting but am moving along nicely. added the logo.
LegalizeMediTHC
Member
Just wanted to say "hi" to all you bubbleheads here! My good friend MobTies has told me a lot about you guys/gals and from what ive been reading, you truely do have a love and passion for cultivation! Bravo!!! All this info is a little overwhelming right now, but i see why him and his girl jumped head first into hydroponics. He has no solid connection so i know he is looking for a method for a steady supply of pot year round. Keep up the good work, i will stay in tune...!
LegalizeMediTHC
Member
Oh yeah! I almost forgot. He wanted me to tell you all to watch out because he (MobTies) could very well be the next Roseman! LOL! Mob tends to obsess over every little detail and always wants to perfect something. He is a true knowledge junkie. Anywho, just thought i would post that before i forgot. He still thinks about you guys and the forum. Im sure glad that he got me to join too. I just wish i could send him my guy so he has a secure connection till he gets up and running with his grows lol. Cheers! 
Roseman
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Dystopia, hater hunter,
Welcome to THE BubbleHeads. Please keep in mind we are the good guys, loyal to RIU and to each other. No Drama, no fuss. We make the bubbles, we grow the buds, and we help others do the same!
As a 10% Discount coupon, you can use the word BUBLEHEADS to get a discount at the Bubbleponics website. You are also welcomed to help recruit others here too.
Welcome to THE BubbleHeads. Please keep in mind we are the good guys, loyal to RIU and to each other. No Drama, no fuss. We make the bubbles, we grow the buds, and we help others do the same!
As a 10% Discount coupon, you can use the word BUBLEHEADS to get a discount at the Bubbleponics website. You are also welcomed to help recruit others here too.
Roseman
Elite Rolling Society
hater hurter
Active Member
too late roseman, i already have a stealth hydro set up and another one just like i got off ebay. i will use it when i need new bulbs though.
had some issues with burnt edges and spots performed 8step water was nasty for the first time well keep fingers crossed wish had better pics my camera sucks but three weeks into flower
spinninggorilla
Member
Request for membership! I read yalls postings to learn everyday and working on my first grow now. I dont mind helping with the lil bit of experince I have now and always enjoy learning this fine art.
MostlyCrazy
New Member
Granted. Feel free to cut and paste the logo! Welcome to the club of helpers!
Paranoid420
Active Member
Welcome to the club!!
SMOKEnCHOKE
Active Member
The bubbleheads are growing!
Paranoid420
Active Member
Thats because were the coolest growers around brother!!
Paranoid420
Active Member
Not sure but I think they are showing sex. Female I believe. Any input from these pix?
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MostlyCrazy
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Look female to me. In one week you'll know for sure!
JonnyBtreed
Well-Known Member
I concur... Looks like little pistils to me
Roseman
Elite Rolling Society
First you have to realize that the pH is going to change daily as the nutrients are eaten. That means adjusting it daily. Goal is that those daily changes be slight and not major. And too, different sources of water yield different pH problems.
You have to have pH balanced nutes, or a buffer or a stabilizer in the water to keep it from roller coasting and spiking up and down.
I've done some research on pH Control and I 'd like to offer some advice and my opinion.
NEW growers worry about it too too much, and the biggest mistake they make is trying for a perfect contstant same pH.
You will do better, to just try to keep it between 5.6 and 6.8 without changing it often. Plants eat more nitrogen at 5.7 to 5.9 than at 6.7 to 6.9. But they eat more iron and magnesium at 6.5 to 6.8. You need a fluctuating pH level for your plants to absorb different nutes at different levels.
When you get your water, add nutes and pH test it, no matter what the results, if it is between 5.6 and 6.4, leave it alone or only adjust it slightly by .1 to .2 down.
DO NOT PLAY the pH Game.
Do NOT ride the pH Roller Coaster.
It is better to be off, too high, or too low, than to adjust it too much at one time.
Drastic or FAST adjustments really mess up the entire system.
Adjust gradually, and slowly.
The pH should not vary more than .5 to .7 everyday, and if it does flucuate alot more up OR down daily, something is wrong.
First, ask yourself, IF growing in HYDRO, what is going into the tank? Water, Nutes, pH UP and Down should be it. Adding anything else, WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM, is not the wisest thing to do. (Yes, sometimes some small amount of peroxide or hydrozyme might be needed, but I've done 7 grows without it.)
And if you are making NUTE SOUP, ( a nute mix and supplement mix) I can not advise you about your pH.
Except for the very first time you add the water to the tank, You should pH balance your water FIRST, everytime, outside of the tank, then add the nutes, pH balance it again, then add it to the tank. It should not go up more than .5 within one day or 1.0 in two days.
If it does go up more in one day or two days, you got to do something to stabilize it. After the first two or 3 weeks pass, and the plants are drinking a gallon a day, you can add one gallon back that is over adjusted or over compensated, to get it back down. FOR EXAMPLE, If the tank is reading 7.2, then add one gallon of 6.0, and you'll get it down SOME, without it being too drastic.
DRASTIC pH CHANGES WITHIN 24 HOURS ARE VERY DANGEROUS.
OR
Try adding a lump of charcoal or two, tied in a panty hose or nylon stocking to the tank.
Go to Walmart or PetSmart to the Aquarium Dept, next to the fish food, filters and additives and sea salts, and get those little packages of Ammonia Control absorbent packets. They look like little sponges in a wrapper. I can not remember what they are called, but they work great to stabilize the pH. Or get the Ammonia control pellets and add a few to the tank.
Get everything in your tank like you want it, (except the roots or plants,) and add two heaping tablespoons of baking soda to a gallon of water,Stir it good, then add it to the tank. Wait ten or 15 minutes, then pH adjust it again. Then it should stay stabilized until the next Drain and Replenish.
A buffer solution is an aqueous solution consisting of a mixture of a weak acid and its conjugate base or a weak base and its conjugate acid. It has the property that the pH of the solution changes very little when a small amount of acid or base is added to it. Buffer solutions are used as a means of keeping pH at a nearly constant value in a wide variety of chemical applications.
You can simply add two heaping table spoons of baking soda to your water, (before yu put it in the tank). Yes, it will wreck the pH, but then you adjust it with pH Down, and then it will stay more stable for a few days.
Primarily what one needs to add to the water are neutralizers and buffers that will stabilize the acid and alkaline levels to the degree that is required for the plants. Most of these stabilizing products are sold in great volume at any pet store that specialized in aquariums and tropical fish and if one is not familiar with what product to purchase, then one should consult with the qualified salespeople so as to arrive at a specific product that will properly address the specific needs of the fish and their owner. You want something that rduces the acid.
instead of buying a buffer, you can simply put a cube of charcoal, or a lump of peat moss tied up in a nylon stocking, and add it to your tank.
You have to have pH balanced nutes, or a buffer or a stabilizer in the water to keep it from roller coasting and spiking up and down.
I've done some research on pH Control and I 'd like to offer some advice and my opinion.
NEW growers worry about it too too much, and the biggest mistake they make is trying for a perfect contstant same pH.
You will do better, to just try to keep it between 5.6 and 6.8 without changing it often. Plants eat more nitrogen at 5.7 to 5.9 than at 6.7 to 6.9. But they eat more iron and magnesium at 6.5 to 6.8. You need a fluctuating pH level for your plants to absorb different nutes at different levels.
When you get your water, add nutes and pH test it, no matter what the results, if it is between 5.6 and 6.4, leave it alone or only adjust it slightly by .1 to .2 down.
DO NOT PLAY the pH Game.
Do NOT ride the pH Roller Coaster.
It is better to be off, too high, or too low, than to adjust it too much at one time.
Drastic or FAST adjustments really mess up the entire system.
Adjust gradually, and slowly.
The pH should not vary more than .5 to .7 everyday, and if it does flucuate alot more up OR down daily, something is wrong.
First, ask yourself, IF growing in HYDRO, what is going into the tank? Water, Nutes, pH UP and Down should be it. Adding anything else, WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM, is not the wisest thing to do. (Yes, sometimes some small amount of peroxide or hydrozyme might be needed, but I've done 7 grows without it.)
And if you are making NUTE SOUP, ( a nute mix and supplement mix) I can not advise you about your pH.
Except for the very first time you add the water to the tank, You should pH balance your water FIRST, everytime, outside of the tank, then add the nutes, pH balance it again, then add it to the tank. It should not go up more than .5 within one day or 1.0 in two days.
If it does go up more in one day or two days, you got to do something to stabilize it. After the first two or 3 weeks pass, and the plants are drinking a gallon a day, you can add one gallon back that is over adjusted or over compensated, to get it back down. FOR EXAMPLE, If the tank is reading 7.2, then add one gallon of 6.0, and you'll get it down SOME, without it being too drastic.
DRASTIC pH CHANGES WITHIN 24 HOURS ARE VERY DANGEROUS.
OR
Try adding a lump of charcoal or two, tied in a panty hose or nylon stocking to the tank.
Go to Walmart or PetSmart to the Aquarium Dept, next to the fish food, filters and additives and sea salts, and get those little packages of Ammonia Control absorbent packets. They look like little sponges in a wrapper. I can not remember what they are called, but they work great to stabilize the pH. Or get the Ammonia control pellets and add a few to the tank.
Get everything in your tank like you want it, (except the roots or plants,) and add two heaping tablespoons of baking soda to a gallon of water,Stir it good, then add it to the tank. Wait ten or 15 minutes, then pH adjust it again. Then it should stay stabilized until the next Drain and Replenish.
A buffer solution is an aqueous solution consisting of a mixture of a weak acid and its conjugate base or a weak base and its conjugate acid. It has the property that the pH of the solution changes very little when a small amount of acid or base is added to it. Buffer solutions are used as a means of keeping pH at a nearly constant value in a wide variety of chemical applications.
You can simply add two heaping table spoons of baking soda to your water, (before yu put it in the tank). Yes, it will wreck the pH, but then you adjust it with pH Down, and then it will stay more stable for a few days.
Primarily what one needs to add to the water are neutralizers and buffers that will stabilize the acid and alkaline levels to the degree that is required for the plants. Most of these stabilizing products are sold in great volume at any pet store that specialized in aquariums and tropical fish and if one is not familiar with what product to purchase, then one should consult with the qualified salespeople so as to arrive at a specific product that will properly address the specific needs of the fish and their owner. You want something that rduces the acid.
instead of buying a buffer, you can simply put a cube of charcoal, or a lump of peat moss tied up in a nylon stocking, and add it to your tank.
henleyhaze
Well-Known Member
good info roseman. the PH swing your talking about is absolutely a good thing in fact a bit of luck would have this grow I haven't had to adjust ph in about 4 weeks, but I do change the res. regularly.
and, whoever said bubble heads are the best you know damn right brotha!
don't forget pray for everyone for a good harvest. the better harvest comes if you meditate with your plants!! peace.
and, whoever said bubble heads are the best you know damn right brotha!
don't forget pray for everyone for a good harvest. the better harvest comes if you meditate with your plants!! peace.
Dystopia
Active Member
Great advice Roseman. I agree, chasing ph is a losing cause.
I use GH nutes and set the ph to 5.8 after mixing the nutes. I then let it sit for a day and stabilize before adding to res.
I've found that once in the system the ph typically drops to 5.4-5.6 over the first day or so, then drifts up to around 6.5-6.8 and eventually stabilizes in that range. I generally don't do any ph adjustments once the water is in the system.
Something I have struggled with is ph and res water changes - going from the mid to high 6 range back down to 5.8. I figured it's got to be shocking my plants.
This is one of the reasons I'm going to a recirculating DWC for my next grow. In my experience the more water you have (bigger reservoir or a shared water system) the less rapidly ph seems to fluxuate. Plus, this will allow me to only change half the soup at a time - I figure only changing half the water will be less of a shock to the plants.
Great info on the neutralizers and buffers, I'm going to try that next time around.
I use GH nutes and set the ph to 5.8 after mixing the nutes. I then let it sit for a day and stabilize before adding to res.
I've found that once in the system the ph typically drops to 5.4-5.6 over the first day or so, then drifts up to around 6.5-6.8 and eventually stabilizes in that range. I generally don't do any ph adjustments once the water is in the system.
Something I have struggled with is ph and res water changes - going from the mid to high 6 range back down to 5.8. I figured it's got to be shocking my plants.
This is one of the reasons I'm going to a recirculating DWC for my next grow. In my experience the more water you have (bigger reservoir or a shared water system) the less rapidly ph seems to fluxuate. Plus, this will allow me to only change half the soup at a time - I figure only changing half the water will be less of a shock to the plants.
Great info on the neutralizers and buffers, I'm going to try that next time around.
Ray Fox
Well-Known Member
Hey Roseman, just replying to what you said before. We're doing another grow, with the same CFL's as before (probably a few more) and the same Stealth system, so the Foxfarm nutes and the nute combo packs in general looked really good... mostly the cloning gel though! haha!