240v/110v Step up/Step down convert...

[epixbud]

i think i should have posted this here....

Got a question, been lookin at these 224v/110v step up/step down converts, they are supposed to be steady use and have way more watts then what i would need, i'm wanting a cheap way to convert 240v to multiple 110v lines....

http://www.220-electronics.com/Trans.../simranreg.htm

Will or would these work for lights? they are 1/8th the price of boards..

i wanna run from the dryer 240v to 2 x 120v - 600w's, would they work for that?



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[cowboylogic]

i think i should have posted this here....

Got a question, been lookin at these 224v/110v step up/step down converts, they are supposed to be steady use and have way more watts then what i would need, i'm wanting a cheap way to convert 240v to multiple 110v lines....

http://www.220-electronics.com/Trans.../simranreg.htm

Will or would these work for lights? they are 1/8th the price of boards..

i wanna run from the dryer 240v to 2 x 120v - 600w's, would they work for that?



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Its more about the amp draw than it is volts. A dryer circuit is probaly 30 amps or larger, more than enough for 2-600's. Just dont run the dryer at the same time. And if your ballasts can run 240 then run them at that. You cut your amp draw per light in half. Actually 240 is a bit more economical to run than 120.

 

[cowboylogic]

And if you decide to step down I would get at least the 1500 watt model, the 2000 would be ideal. Guess I better ask this also. How long will your cord be from the dryer to grow room? What gauge wire do you plan to use?

 

[epixbud]

And if you decide to step down I would get at least the 1500 watt model, the 2000 would be ideal. Guess I better ask this also. How long will your cord be from the dryer to grow room? What gauge wire do you plan to use?

Hay there, thankz for the reply.... i personally would use one atleaste twise the power i need, thinking of the 5000w, that way i can add stuff too... they are all rated 30amp steady use, probly be less hard on that unit, maby add to it's life.... but thats what i'm trying to find out, if they would work good for the lights.....

the only reason i wanna use 240v is so i can bring the garage 240v into my room, round 75+ feet, probly closer to 100 after all run thro,
wanna split the hydro use between 2 meters...
think it'll be hard on a 110v extended that much and running 2-600wrz??????.....

And i also wanna keep everything 110v so if i ever have probs i'll have replacements that'll work on both lines... all my equipment now runs off 110.....



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[cowboylogic]

Hay there, thankz for the reply.... i personally would use one atleaste twise the power i need, thinking of the 5000w, that way i can add stuff too... they are all rated 30amp steady use, probly be less hard on that unit, maby add to it's life.... but thats what i'm trying to find out, if they would work good for the lights.....

the only reason i wanna use 240v is so i can bring the garage 240v into my room, round 75+ feet, probly closer to 100 after all run thro,
wanna split the hydro use between 2 meters...
think it'll be hard on a 110v extended that much and running 2-600wrz??????.....

And i also wanna keep everything 110v so if i ever have probs i'll have replacements that'll work on both lines... all my equipment now runs off 110.....



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Even say a constant 20 amp draw, 600's pull about 9 amps(give or take, just the number I go by when calculating) running 120, over 75 to 100 ft. You are going to need some serious wire for that distance. I will have to do a bit of figuring and get back with you on that. Plus the converter itself on the end adds into the equation. These dudes make substancial heat. Heat is a product in this case as used energy.

 

[cowboylogic]

And a dumb ? but one I need to ask. Are you a pretty handyman kinda of person and are comfortable with all of this?

 

[epixbud]

And a dumb ? but one I need to ask. Are you a pretty handyman kinda of person and are comfortable with all of this?

Yes sir i am, and thank you for the help, and gauge of the wire is a help too....... i just wanna keep everything under loaded so i don't have probs in the future......


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[cowboylogic]

A 10-2 grounded should be just fine. You have never answered this though. Will your ballasts run 220/240? If so you should go that route. Just put a 25 amp 240 subpanel in then pull a 15 amp 120 from it. With the 10-2 you will be fine. Just be sure to not put any super tite bends in you 10-2 feed, tite bends make hot spots.
Sorry, guess you did answer. Still may want to consider the 240 sub and wire the room from there.

 

[BigBudBalls]

Why convert? just use the correct light. Conversion is a waste of power. The conversion is NOT free; it will use power. Any transformer will get warm/hot; hence its overhead power usage.

 

[epixbud]

Why convert? just use the correct light. Conversion is a waste of power. The conversion is NOT free; it will use power. Any transformer will get warm/hot; hence its overhead power usage.

Hay man, thankz for the reply..... And i know just like most that it would be eacier to use the 240v ballest, but when you already have a fortune invested in a buncha 110v ballests, you gotta go with what you have! utilizing things like converters that are way over rated for the application will run cooler with less load......

A 10-2 grounded should be just fine. You have never answered this though. Will your ballasts run 220/240? If so you should go that route. Just put a 25 amp 240 subpanel in then pull a 15 amp 120 from it. With the 10-2 you will be fine. Just be sure to not put any super tite bends in you 10-2 feed, tite bends make hot spots.
Sorry, guess you did answer. Still may want to consider the 240 sub and wire the room from there.

LOL, oh you seen that.... he he he.... i'd really appriesiat it if ya could explain the 240 subpanel, do i just run the cable to the garage with the subpanel in the room or the garage? run 1 or 2 lines? LOL, sorry, i ain't no expert but can do it, just need some advice... he he he



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[cowboylogic]

Hay man, thankz for the reply..... And i know just like most that it would be eacier to use the 240v ballest, but when you already have a fortune invested in a buncha 110v ballests, you gotta go with what you have! utilizing things like converters that are way over rated for the application will run cooler with less load......






LOL, oh you seen that.... he he he.... i'd really appriesiat it if ya could explain the 240 subpanel, do i just run the cable to the garage with the subpanel in the room or the garage? run 1 or 2 lines? LOL, sorry, i ain't no expert but can do it, just need some advice... he he he


Just one 240 wire from garage to grow room with a small breaker(sub panel)box there. From this you can wire 120 recepticles from it. No converter needed. Your main into your home is 240 and I bet you do not have a house full of converters! LOL A trip to Home Depot and short chat with one of thier associates and you should be good to go.

 

[epixbud]

Hay man, thankz for the reply..... And i know just like most that it would be eacier to use the 240v ballest, but when you already have a fortune invested in a buncha 110v ballests, you gotta go with what you have! utilizing things like converters that are way over rated for the application will run cooler with less load......






LOL, oh you seen that.... he he he.... i'd really appriesiat it if ya could explain the 240 subpanel, do i just run the cable to the garage with the subpanel in the room or the garage? run 1 or 2 lines? LOL, sorry, i ain't no expert but can do it, just need some advice... he he he


Just one 240 wire from garage to grow room with a small breaker(sub panel)box there. From this you can wire 120 recepticles from it. No converter needed. Your main into your home is 240 and I bet you do not have a house full of converters! LOL A trip to Home Depot and short chat with one of thier associates and you should be good to go.

Ha ha..... thank you very kindly sir......
and so a subpanel it shall be then!..................

You should be an electrician! if you ain't that is.....
Every pro electriation i've ask this, they always gave me unreal priced solutions!
and the solution you just clued me into is awsome!

So, i must reiterate... Thank You Kind Sir!




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