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Ap0c0leS

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How many plants... in round pots.. 12 inch? under 250W HPS, can fit into a 3.2 foot by 3.2 foot space?...


Also are 12 inch pots large enough for fullgrown mature plants?


Ill just keep adding new questions here because trust me i am full of them..
 

ttumaddawg

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i have an easy solution

mark off a 3.2 x 3.2 area and place 12 inch pots in the area

count how many pots you have placed in the 3.2 x 3.2 area

this is how many will fit
 

ttumaddawg

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yes, 12 inch pots are large enough for mature plants...i've heard of mature plants in dixie cups even

of course, the smaller the pot, the smaller the plant
 

Ap0c0leS

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Cool cause i did just that and i could fit 6 plants nicely.. problem is the plants will grow fatter than the pots will be wide... do i HAVE to do a SOG style grow here to make more airflow between plants if i grow 6 or is it possible to actually let them all grow out full size no problem?
 

Defcon9

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Cool cause i did just that and i could fit 6 plants nicely.. problem is the plants will grow fatter than the pots will be wide... do i HAVE to do a SOG style grow here to make more airflow between plants if i grow 6 or is it possible to actually let them all grow out full size no problem?

You don't have to, I have a closet that is similar size. I do a SOG with clones, last time I did that I had 30 plants in there all about 1 foot. I've also used the same space and grown 2 big plants.
 

Ap0c0leS

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Lol im talkin about this in two different posts at once... One guys is saying 3 max.. this guy is ssaying 9 LOL.. I did actually lay out 9 - 12" pots and they fit.. ovbiously that wont work because of the bushyness.. You guys dont think i can squeeze 4 bigboys in a 3.2 foot by 3.2 foot?? Im gonna be depressed if i can only do 3 at a time.. thats like what.. not even 84g's



Would it be better to do a SOG style grow .. would i get more goodies or should i try to squeeze 4 in that bitch
 

Defcon9

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confused out of that last post do you mean i can fit 9?

Sorry didn't see you tried.

well 3.2' X 3.2' should hold 3X 12" containers (touching) in three rows if a 12" container is one foot then you have a 3.2' area it should hold 3 containers with 0.2' to spare. 3X3=9, but it never works out like that.
 

Defcon9

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Lol im talkin about this in two different posts at once... One guys is saying 3 max.. this guy is ssaying 9 LOL.. I did actually lay out 9 - 12" pots and they fit.. ovbiously that wont work because of the bushyness.. You guys dont think i can squeeze 4 bigboys in a 3.2 foot by 3.2 foot?? Im gonna be depressed if i can only do 3 at a time.. thats like what.. not even 84g's



Would it be better to do a SOG style grow .. would i get more goodies or should i try to squeeze 4 in that bitch

no worries. Me I would try to fit 4 I can always take one out if it don't work. If you are growing off clones then no big deal, if not then you don't really want to waste a seed. If you want bigger plants you can always do a ScrOG
 

Ap0c0leS

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Sorry didn't see you tried.

well 3.2' X 3.2' should hold 3X 12" containers (touching) in three rows if a 12" container is one foot then you have a 3.2' area it should hold 3 containers with 0.2' to spare. 3X3=9, but it never works out like that.

Yea i was able to lay out 9 pots if i remember correctly but that would never work.. that leads me to believe i could shed 3 of those pots and get 6 going at once but i guess thats a pipe dream.. i have no experience with how big the plants actually get.



I have another issue.. I have a huge carbon filter.. CAN 33.. This thing is a monster and you are sopost to mount it inside the tent and suck air out but MAN.. that fuckin thing weighs so much and is so big i dont think i want to mount it up in my tent... I have a high velocity 470CFM fan to suck air out but im not sure how i can do this.. Does anyone have an alternative or someway i can do thsi?
 

Defcon9

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Yea i was able to lay out 9 pots if i remember correctly but that would never work.. that leads me to believe i could shed 3 of those pots and get 6 going at once but i guess thats a pipe dream.. i have no experience with how big the plants actually get.



I have another issue.. I have a huge carbon filter.. CAN 33.. This thing is a monster and you are sopost to mount it inside the tent and suck air out but MAN.. that fuckin thing weighs so much and is so big i dont think i want to mount it up in my tent... I have a high velocity 470CFM fan to suck air out but im not sure how i can do this.. Does anyone have an alternative or someway i can do thsi?

You can put the filter outside the tent, as long as the venting runs to it and is sealed it will still work. You would need to get some duct workt to hook up to it, depending on the inlet and outlet sizes you might beable to get some flexable ducting to hook into it. Just make sure it is really well sealed with no air leaks. In that space if you really want large plants do 2 - 3 depending on the strain they can get bushy.

With that light I'd really just go with a ScrOG then you get better light penetration = better yield
 

Ap0c0leS

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You can put the filter outside the tent, as long as the venting runs to it and is sealed it will still work. You would need to get some duct workt to hook up to it, depending on the inlet and outlet sizes you might beable to get some flexable ducting to hook into it. Just make sure it is really well sealed with no air leaks. In that space if you really want large plants do 2 - 3 depending on the strain they can get bushy.

With that light I'd really just go with a ScrOG then you get better light penetration = better yield



Yes i have those sock ports.. 6" ... So your saying run ducting from the inside of the tent to the outside, down to the can filter, then a bit more ducting, then the fan that is sucking air out? Or am i mistaken?

TENT| blowing this way =========> ?
|
|=====|duct|===carbonfilter|===duct|===fan->
 

purrrrple

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Lol im talkin about this in two different posts at once... One guys is saying 3 max.. this guy is ssaying 9 LOL.. I did actually lay out 9 - 12" pots and they fit.. ovbiously that wont work because of the bushyness.. You guys dont think i can squeeze 4 bigboys in a 3.2 foot by 3.2 foot?? Im gonna be depressed if i can only do 3 at a time.. thats like what.. not even 84g's



Would it be better to do a SOG style grow .. would i get more goodies or should i try to squeeze 4 in that bitch
You have a couple of different options here. Obviously the main goal is to get the heaviest crop from the 3.2x3.2 area. With a 250 watt light and the right genetics half a pound IS achievable but to do so, you must have your area dialed in and your environment perfect.

That said, here are a few ideas.

1. twice as many 6'' pots with little or no veg time. I would imagine you can fit almost 36 if my math is correct. This way you would only need 7g/plant to hit your 1gpw mark, which is very realistic. Also your veg time will be cut significantly.

2. Do a scrog larger pots or a soil bed and do less plants, say 3-5, and train them to fill in the gaps.

I always thought growing larger plants was the way to go, but after seeing friends results with using 2-4x more plants, they are yielding the same or higher in a much shorter time.

Also the method used is VERY strain dependant and this is in fact the most important variable. Post back with more details or questions and maybe i can help more.

BTW. a 6'' or 12'' pot is ample room depending on your veg time and feeding regiment. Like i said, post back with strain info and we'll figure it out.
 

Defcon9

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Yes i have those sock ports.. 6" ... So your saying run ducting from the inside of the tent to the outside, down to the can filter, then a bit more ducting, then the fan that is sucking air out? Or am i mistaken?

TENT| blowing this way =========> ?
|
|=====|duct|===carbonfilter|===duct|===fan->

I'm a little confused. That sounds right I think.

What I would do is put the canister next to my tent on the outside. Run some ducting from indie the tent and attach it to the canister. You can let it just vent from there or attach more ducting to direct the air somewhere. The fan is up to you. Depending on your fan style etc. You can either mount the fan in the tent attached to the venting or you can mount the fan outside, in which case you would go duct from tent to fan to filter.

Tent--->duct--->fan--->duct--->can filter--->more duct if you require.

I think in yours you put the fan on the end which should also be okay. As long as you are getting negative pressure inside the tent and air is flowing out the tent throught the filter you are okay.
 

Ap0c0leS

Active Member
I'm a little confused. That sounds right I think.

What I would do is put the canister next to my tent on the outside. Run some ducting from indie the tent and attach it to the canister. You can let it just vent from there or attach more ducting to direct the air somewhere. The fan is up to you. Depending on your fan style etc. You can either mount the fan in the tent attached to the venting or you can mount the fan outside, in which case you would go duct from tent to fan to filter.

Tent--->duct--->fan--->duct--->can filter--->more duct if you require..
Im positive the can fan is designed to have air sucked through it so i dont think this setup would work.. The can fans have a prefilter on the outside designed to block dust before it enters the filter.. the only way for that to take place i guess would be to locate the filter in the tent and the fan outside

I think in yours you put the fan on the end which should also be okay. As long as you are getting negative pressure inside the tent and air is flowing out the tent throught the filter you are okay
 

Ap0c0leS

Active Member
You have a couple of different options here. Obviously the main goal is to get the heaviest crop from the 3.2x3.2 area. With a 250 watt light and the right genetics half a pound IS achievable but to do so, you must have your area dialed in and your environment perfect.

That said, here are a few ideas.

1. twice as many 6'' pots with little or no veg time. I would imagine you can fit almost 36 if my math is correct. This way you would only need 7g/plant to hit your 1gpw mark, which is very realistic. Also your veg time will be cut significantly.

2. Do a scrog larger pots or a soil bed and do less plants, say 3-5, and train them to fill in the gaps.

I always thought growing larger plants was the way to go, but after seeing friends results with using 2-4x more plants, they are yielding the same or higher in a much shorter time.

Also the method used is VERY strain dependant and this is in fact the most important variable. Post back with more details or questions and maybe i can help more.

BTW. a 6'' or 12'' pot is ample room depending on your veg time and feeding regiment. Like i said, post back with strain info and we'll figure it out.


Im likein the idea of droping the pot size in half and adding twice as many plants... this sounds good lol.. Ok this is from another post so it wont totally pertain to what we are talking about but here is what i am using mostly



Yes i plan on throwing in the UVB and CFL's in during flowering.. I also have a 50W All blue LED and 50W Triband LED i will use somewhere.. more likely in veg and clone chamber but not sure.. lets not worry about that .. sticking to flowering here:hump:

Lets see... As for fans i have two 170 CFM inline fans to blow through the air sealed/glass sealed 250W HPS Which will be a complete independent system from the exaust of the tent.. it will just blow right through the tent and be vented out of the room never mixing with the air in the tent * AWESOME * :blsmoke::blsmoke::peace::joint:

As for the exaust fan its a The GrowBright 6" Inline Fan uses 110 watts and pushes 424 cfm of air, flange size 6". that will be paired up with the CAN 33 filter.. dunno how i will set that BIG BOY up.. 23 pounds and its like FREEKING HUGE.. had i known that i would have never got it.. i hate to think of hanging that thing up inside my tent and sucking airout ( best way) but i may have to do it reverse because that damn thing is HUGE..

For medium im gonna start with Fox farm Ocean forest in pots.. i have tons of different size pots and also 1 and 7 gallon grow bags.. i think thats what i got atleast..

I have Gen hydro liquid nutes that i could possibly use.. the 3 pack whatever they are i forget.. I also have Foxfarm 3 pack.. umm big bloom tiger bloom and grow big plus the three soluable additives open sesime chaching and ummm.. beasty bloomz i think? Yea anyway... I also have a TDS meter to check nute levels ( i think that will work) tools and well i cant think of anything else.. Is there any other peices of the puzzle your wondering about?

whats the best way to go about useing a 250Wer like this in this kind of space " 3'x3'... how many plants would fit max? Indica indoor kept pruned or condensed somehow.. i guess..


Oh yea Seeds.. Well i only have 2 of each of the following.. i figured 2 would be good incase i FUCK up and lose it ill have another shot to make that mother for clones.. I have .....

2 Barneys farm G13xHaze
2 Barneys farm Blueberry
2 The Church ( barneys farm?)
1 AK47x Low Rider
1 Pure gold (free)
1 Blue venom (free)
 

Defcon9

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Im positive the can fan is designed to have air sucked through it so i dont think this setup would work.. The can fans have a prefilter on the outside designed to block dust before it enters the filter.. the only way for that to take place i guess would be to locate the filter in the tent and the fan outside

I think in yours you put the fan on the end which should also be okay. As long as you are getting negative pressure inside the tent and air is flowing out the tent throught the filter you are okay
You can do that. Where the ducting goes into the tent, put the filter right there.
 
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