Prop 215 Grow 1.2

[Katatawnic]

One can only hope! Gotta stay in my state's MMJ legal limits, six mature & 12 immature plants maximum. Soon I'll start two more seeds to begin a perpetual setup, so that I'll have one or two plants (haven't decided which would be better RE: all the work at harvest time) ready to go every two or four weeks. That gives us a couple months to find/create separate areas for vegging & flowering. Bushes are the only way I can be sure to have all that I need at all times. I can understand a six mature plant limit for growing outdoors, but indoor growing doesn't yield nearly as much!

Granted, when I first joined RIU, I'd said I only use 1 to 2 oz. a month, but that was before I was finally able to discover what edibles do for the pain! So now I'm using about 4 oz. a month. Sounds awfully pricey, but the difference between smoking and eating is amazing when seeking body pain relief! (And unless I need a lot, it doesn't drug me up in the least; even then, so far I've only had a very slight dizziness but absolutely no "high" while eating just what I need! Finding a way to control chronic pain and NOT be in a constant stupor isn't an easy thing to do, but I found it with canna oil which is much easier for me to control intake than pills, that's for sure!)

But because we've put so much money into getting a grow setup going, I've had to resort to low grade.... breaking apart compressed bud is not easy on arthritic hands, to say the least! Last night I was breaking up what I'd need to set aside to smoke so that I could grind up and use the rest to make canna oil, and my hands soon went from "just" hurting to locking up on me and being useless for a few hours. I've been equally looking forward to and dreading harvesting, because I know that the harvests are going to make me hurt a lot. But after breaking up so much compressed bud the last couple/few months, I now see that it won't be much more work for harvesting than it is for what I have to do now.... and it'll of course be so much rewarding when I'm harvesting my own!

OK, still not awake. And rambling more than I wanted to continue doing. I'll post again once I've taken more photos.... they help me talk less. TTFN!

 

[Solcyn26]

nice work kat they look nice and bushy like we like them...i need to move to a mmj state...im starting to build a lil bubbler like yours so im subscribed for sure im thinking about building a cloner also with sprayers but i wanted to ask u have u tried cloning in your unit yet if so how did it go dont want to build cloner if i dont have to...check out my grow im at like 2 weeks flower with some white widows.
i just got a 600w so its should b a short but fun ride..click on my sig.

 

[Katatawnic]

Cloning was super easy in the BP. I didn't have any rooting gel/hormones at the time, and they still flourished nicely. You won't see the roots as soon as you would in a cloner, because the rockwool will already be buried in the hydroton. I think it took about 10-14 days for me to see roots coming out of the bottom of the net pots. Here's a few photos of their early progress.

I'll check out your GJ shortly.

 

[DrDank]

Very nice. Keep it coming.

 

[purpdaddy]

damn they took root that damn easy??i am not one to clone so i dont really know..i got a bottle of clonex just in case of emergency!

 

[purpdaddy]

Lookin great too kat forgot to mention.

 

[Katatawnic]

Very nice. Keep it coming.

damn they took root that damn easy??i am not one to clone so i dont really know..i got a bottle of clonex just in case of emergency!

Lookin great too kat forgot to mention.

Thanks guys!

Yeah Purp, that easy! I'd rather keep a few mothers with good genetics around for cloning than to start from seed every time. Very reliable!


Not much to update. Just more growth. Been needing to put frozen bottles of water in the reservoir the last few days, but otherwise pretty non-eventful. Almost topped today, but decided to wait till they've gotten up to six nodes. I'd like there to be more root growth first.

 

[howak47]

Thanks guys!

Yeah Purp, that easy! I'd rather keep a few mothers with good genetics around for cloning than to start from seed every time. Very reliable!


Not much to update. Just more growth. Been needing to put frozen bottles of water in the reservoir the last few days, but otherwise pretty non-eventful. Almost topped today, but decided to wait till they've gotten up to six nodes. I'd like there to be more root growth first.

LOOKIN DAMN GOOD KAT!!!!!KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK I JUST POSTED SUM NEW PICS CHECK EM OUT https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/205127-zona-mid-aero-cfl-grow-16.html

 

[taco32713]

Kata looking good

 

[ttumaddawg]

i hope your hands feel better...

 

[Katatawnic]

i hope your hands feel better...

Thanks for the well wishes, Dawg.

i got a bottle of clonex just in case of emergency!

And I've got an emergency situation.... pythium. I'll just copy/paste what I wrote to Uncle Ben earlier today. Easier that way. And I've got a photo from night before last. They look the same today. Still no damage to the foliage; it's only attacked the roots so far.


Hi Uncle Ben, I'm in a bit of a dilemma. My plants are 20 days old, and everything was going so smoothly until we had a major power outage last weekend. (I was asleep throughout the first six or so hours, so was quite unaware.) That opened up a huge can of worms, and now I'm fighting a case of pythium. It's mild because I've been aggressively attacking it, but it's so persistent! So far my plants don't appear to have any visible signs of pythium, only the roots.

I've gardened a good 25 of my 38 years, and the funny thing is I'd "just do it" if it were any other plant. But here I am looking for opinions and advice first, simply because it's a "different" kind of plant. I've encountered pythium before, and likely will again. What I've done in the past, if cleansing/sanitizing everything and trimming off dead/weak portions of the roots doesn't stop it quickly, is to simply cut the plant and start it rooting over again; treating it like a "clone" so to speak. However, I've not had to deal with pythium this early before. One of my plants is developing its fifth node, the other three their sixth.

What I've been doing:

• Drain reservoir, clean & sanitize everything. Add peroxide to reservoir after filling. At least once daily.
• Flush the net pots, spray diluted peroxide directly on the roots and grow medium, let it soak and do its stuff, rinse thoroughly. Several times daily, whenever "gunk" on the roots starts to show even slightly.
• Trim off all dead/weak roots that can be accessed.

Draining/replenishing the reservoir once a week is hard enough on me; I normally have a weekly schedule because the day I do my cleaning maintenance, I'm useless to do anything else. Needless to day, this daily draining/cleaning/refilling is not only causing a lot of pain, but literally rendering me immobile for hours. They are growing little new shoots of roots, but the pythium is faster than I am, and I don't see much of a chance for the roots to recover on their own.

So, now that I made a very long story as short as possible .... I'm ready to do the "treating them like clones" thing and be done with the worst of this battle. I can keep them in a tray/dome setup for now, which will give me time to thoroughly sterilize the reservoir and pumps, etc., and have a fresh start. But because they are so young, I'm not sure if it'll help or kill them.

I know you're not a hydro guy, but plants is plants. And I'm wondering if you think this is the best route at this point, or if there's something else I could do that's more effective and less stressful on them. (The constant washing of the roots has to be stressful too though, because you've gotta really get in there to reach the effected areas, and even then you just can't get in there quite enough!) Please keep in mind that I am flat broke till the 15th. I mean absolutely not a penny; the owner of the little "$1+" store next door was kind enough to front me more peroxide because I couldn't even dig up enough change for that!

I do have Hygrozyme ordered, which will help with the cleaning. I'm guesstimating it'll be here by Monday. That's the last purchase I made before breaking the bank.

 

[olishell]

Kat...I don't know much about the eguip.you're using. What is the red ball material you have your seedlings in?

 

[Katatawnic]

Kat...I don't know much about the eguip.you're using. What is the red ball material you have your seedlings in?

That is hydroton, a common brand name for expanded clay pellets. Used very often in hydro growing. They hold both air and moisture, a good balance of both. Some growers use it along with rockwool cubes or rapid rooter plugs, etc., for added support to the trunk as it grows; some use only the clay pellets.

 

[FoxCompany426]

That is hydroton, a common brand name for expanded clay pellets. Used very often in hydro growing. They hold both air and moisture, a good balance of both. Some growers use it along with rockwool cubes or rapid rooter plugs, etc., for added support to the trunk as it grows; some use only the clay pellets.

I like to use sharp cheddar. Adds that extra umph.

Ahhhh, the power of cheese...

 

[Katatawnic]

I like to use sharp cheddar. Adds that extra umph.

Ahhhh, the power of cheese...

LOL!!!

Hey Fox, weren't you the one that had stem rot and cut the plant to re-root it?

 

[FoxCompany426]

LOL!!!

Hey Fox, weren't you the one that had stem rot and cut the plant to re-root it?

I had stem rot, but I got rid of it. Except for on four of them. hehe.

I just used some daconil and kept drying the stem.

 

[Katatawnic]

OK, thought it was you. Thanks! I just looked up Daconil. Wish I'd have heard of it sooner. Oh well, I've read a lot of praises for Hygrozyme in helping with pythium (root rot) here on RIU and elsewhere, for preventing and treating both. So hopefully I won't have this problem again once the Hygrozyme is delivered. I really don't want to cut and re-root my plants, but will if I have to. I'll know soon enough if that's what I'll have to do, or if they'll hold out OK till the Hygrozyme arrives. Can't dry out the roots like you can with the stem.

 

[FoxCompany426]

Yeah, the daconil was only like 6 bucks at lowes. Kinda weird stuff, real thick and syrupy.

I'm sure the Hygrozyme whatcha-mahoozit will do fine.

How bad are the roots?

 

[Katatawnic]

WOW, at $45, the Hygrozyme had better do all I've been told it will do! It's not an antifungal though. Hygrozyme breaks down dead cells and "eats" it, in a nutshell. I guess a lot of growers/farmers use it normally, to help prevent problems. Basically it'll help keep the reservoir clean, which is needed right now more than ever. It's very safe for plants though; they say you can use it right up to harvest.

The roots aren't too bad, all considered. At first I held back from trimming them, but the pythium hit fast and I had no choice if I was going to save them at all. I just checked a moment ago, and the little new shoots are showing a bit more than they were this afternoon. So they may just hold out for the Hygrozyme yet, without having to cut and re-root them! Even the smallest one, which got hit first and the hardest, has visible new root growth now. I've got batteries charging for my camera. Once they charge, I'll take a photo or two of the roots.

I was going to top this weekend. Figures there'd be something holding me back. lol

 

[purpdaddy]

Canna has a really great line of nutes that will prevent stuff like this...like canna got a cannazym and rhizotonic that prob would help you..but its expensive!