Dude i didnt even read all this. Your numbers are fucked. An octagon has 8 sides. if each side is 3 feet then you have an octagon that is six feet wide. If that octagon if seven feet tall, you will have a wallspace of 168 sq ft. PERIOD.
BTW, i said 2 6x6 rooms cuz thats what im doing. I dont have to build exactly like that guy.
Your posts are fucked.
See i dont have to make a ten page post. Vertical is more efficient. PERIOD.
I know plenty of growers using 8k+ (actually just 3). Very sucsessful and never been caught. (BTW they're all going vertical sometime in the next 6 months)
I know some growers get 2 lbs per plant. these are the guys who are fire as fuck at growing and get all the best additives and hydro setups. These are the guys who can get 4 lbs per 1k vertical.
I dont know any who get 4lbs per, but there are 15 grow journals ive read and about 1/4 of them get 3.5 per, 1/2 get 3 per, and 1/4 get two per.
I know 2lbs per 1k is possible flat you tard. but try puting 8k on a 12x12 space, you can do it but its fuckin overkill. A shitty grower can get 2 per 1k vertical, and the growers that can get 2lbs per 1k flat are the guys who are skilled enough to get 3.5+lbs per 1k vertical.
"a person MAY be able to double what they are getting from a floor footprint going with a two tier vert system. or even triple what they are getting from a particular footprint with a three tier vert system. You are the ONLY one claiming that a person can quadruple their yeild from a floor space. And you are missing the -BIG- point... if you take those same three 1000w lights in that VERT system and put them out over a FLAT area... you are going to yeild about 6lbs either way."
--this is the stupidest thing youve said.
IF YOU SAVE SPACE GOING VERTICAL, THEN YOU CAN USE THE SPACE YOU SAVED TO PUT IN MORE LIGHTS.
Hence 12x12 using 4k flat-or-6x12 vertical using 4k
Oh WOW that means i hav another 6x12 to use. HMMMMMMMMMMMMM maybe ill add 4k more lights and QUADRUPLE MY YILED FROME MY 12x12 SPACE.
Your telling me in this pathetic paragraph that ALL the growers who go vert are just stupid, or seeing shit. Imagining increased yields? HAHA
Ill put it like this man.
A grower at x skill level using y amount of light in z amount of space will increase his yield by about 2 times using y amount of light.
And he WILL quadruple his yield if he takes the space save by going vertical in z space and double his y lighting to fill that space.
x=skill
y=amt of light
z=amt of space
Everthing you say is written like "it seems to me" or "according to my math" or "i think"
SO.............. This leads me to think you konw nothing of what the fuck your talking about.
I Thinnk ill believe the scientifically proven evidence that i have stated. See i have an anylytical mind, and i can anylyze the data i get and come up with a conclusion. You by your post have proven to me that your more interested in using fuzzy math and weak examples to prove me wrong.
You can keep growing the way you grow. I gives not a fuck. But dont come in here and leave giant mega posts that SUCK ASS and HAVE NO TRUTH to them.
PLEASE STOP POSTING IN MY THREAD SO I CAN STOP TRYING TO YELL USING ALL CAPS.
You are ignorant.