120W LED + Rainforest 66 + Papaya

206

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so how many watts are you using total for your rainforest 66 unit ?
My kill-a-watt reads 110-115 watts when the light is on. That includes about 100 for the light, 10 for the sprayer, and 5 for the air pump. It is costing me about $2.25/month during 12/12 :)
 

206

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Day 29 flowering pics added.

Ever since I moved the light to project down diagonally instead of hanging right over the plant the upper branches have been growing towards the front of the tent where the light is. Today I rotated the plant 180 degrees so that its leaning towards the back and will have to grow back towards the front. From this view it easier to see how the colas are filling in although you can't see as much bud in the pics.

P.S. The damage to the giant leaf in pic 2 was from it touching the glass lens on my light a while back for 24-48 hours, so it is possible to burn with LED's afterall. :)
 

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dirt clean

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206 I got to hand it to you for sticking out your led grows. I am trying to use a 4th gen triband to veg four plants right now in 1 gallons. I am getting discourage by what I am thnking is some pretty slow growth. I have just fed and they are topped and a little confusing being from some un-uniform clones. Still, my 600 watt lumatek gets here soon (flower tent) and I am finding it hard to resist throwing my 400 lumatek (current flower) over the 1 gallons, use the 600 for flower, and use the UFO as a supplement.

I ahve tried 3 feet over 2 foot over and a few inchs over. Disturbingly I think I saw the most growth at 2 feet or so over. I think that might be stretching though. Not very leggy stretch but I only gave it one day. So reps. I am going to try some more things.


Man I want that 600 watt if I can get this damn UFO to work.
 

repvip

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12-15" has been the sweet spot for me, both with the UFO and tri-band 350w.

Forget the 600w; go for the upgraded 700w with deep red!

Excellent work 206, as usual!!
 

206

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I ahve tried 3 feet over 2 foot over and a few inchs over. Disturbingly I think I saw the most growth at 2 feet or so over. I think that might be stretching though. Not very leggy stretch but I only gave it one day. So reps. I am going to try some more things.
Like repvip said 12-15" seems optimal. I'm vegging a few clones and seeds about 18" away from a 55w & 18w and the internodes are staying tight so far. They are in soil also fwiw.

I finally added an exhaust fan to the tent today. Its a really quiet 4" and fits snugly in the sleeve of the tent. To block the light I cut up a pair of my girlfriend's black nylons and duct taped 3 layers over the exhaust exit, it worked perfectly lol.
 

Ap0c0leS

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Got my light today, woohoo. unfortuantly im ordering everything peice by peice so it will be a long time before i am ready to rock and roll. Do you think the 120W triband will be enough to seal the deal from seed to very nice buds.. Do you think their comparison of the 120W to a 600W HID is correct through veg and flower? i know you cant completly answer yet but give it an educated guess.
 

Ap0c0leS

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Forgot to ask, Can you private message or link me to the smaller LED panels that you got for seed and cloans? I want to get a smaller LED for Clones/Seedlings and use the 120W for Veg and flower..
 

Ap0c0leS

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Sorry i thought of one more thing. How much of an advantage do you think adding a small 150W HID will make?
 

206

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Sorry i thought of one more thing. How much of an advantage do you think adding a small 150W HID will make?
I think a HID+LED would probably make a big difference. I think the 120w compares well to 600w HID grows I've seen on here during veg, but I expect it will be closer to 300-400w HID for flowering, just my best early guess.

The 55w tri-band and 18w blue were both from ebay, can't recall the exact shops but they should be easy to find. The internodes are super tight on the 55w soil plants so far, way way tighter than the rainforest grow during early veg. I was using 3:1 floragrow:floramicro during veg and skipping the florabloom, so I think I just nitrogened the shit out of that papaya which made it so stretchy.
 

Ap0c0leS

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What would you say to two 120W Tribands and a red highpower panel from htg for flower? Would that kick ass as a super all LED?

is blue or white led better for clone/seedling/germination?
 

Ap0c0leS

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Or would it be more about the other spectrums the 150W HID would bring then the lack of the same light from another LED?
 

206

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I'm going camping in the morning so no updates until Tuesday. :peace: and have a great weekend everybody.

What would you say to two 120W Tribands and a red highpower panel from htg for flower? Would that kick ass as a super all LED?
That would be a sick setup, I'm hoping to have two 120w's in the future myself.

is blue or white led better for clone/seedling/germination?
Blue.
 

Cuttings2Colas

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You know what you may want to try? A tiny 15W incandescent on when the LEDs are on... will help "spray" the plants with the infra-red signals of day and night.
 

dirt clean

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actually one of those 10.0 uvb lights for reptile is exactly what you want. It will stim resin prodiction as the plant trys to protect itself. They are normal for gardens now and their are ven veg and flower specific grades and also hid uv models! Cool , huh, that is science. Hope not to hijack.

P.s. I abandoned the led like an idiot. I was having slow clones and I know it was nothing but I am HID man and I had an extra lumatek, LUMATEK!!!, so I could not resist moving to that, 400 watt Lumatek for veg. Still watching tho.
 

206

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actually one of those 10.0 uvb lights for reptile is exactly what you want. It will stim resin prodiction as the plant trys to protect itself. They are normal for gardens now and their are ven veg and flower specific grades and also hid uv models! Cool , huh, that is science. Hope not to hijack.

P.s. I abandoned the led like an idiot. I was having slow clones and I know it was nothing but I am HID man and I had an extra lumatek, LUMATEK!!!, so I could not resist moving to that, 400 watt Lumatek for veg. Still watching tho.
Thanks for suggesting a uvb light, I did not know about these so I'll have to read up. This grow kind of spiraled out of control in regards to free space in the tent, but I will probably add uvb to the next grow.

I actually have a 400w lumatek, I bought it a couple weeks before my LED. Instead of selling it I waited to see what 100% LED could do and now I have a pretty good idea. My next grow will be LED+HPS, which is neither an indictment of LED or endorsement of HPS, just common sense since I already have the HID and they compliment eachother well. I will still finish this grow out 100% LED though fwiw.
 
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