Obama ... He's Lookin' Good!

medicineman

New Member
what campaign promises are you talking about med? you keep saying that...so I was wondering?? I don't think you have been drinking the kool aid...but you obviously been breathing the fumes............:)
OK tips, here are the facts:
He said he wanted single payer health care, now he is backing down, must have been gotten to by the big medical boys, eh?
He said he was going to end the Iraq war, bring the boys home by 2010, all the troops out except for a contingent to guard the embassy. Now it looks like there wont be any troop withdrawel untill late 2010, if any.
He said he was closing gitmo, but now he is going to circumvent the laws (Like Bush) with his "prolonged detention".
He is backing away from most of his hard core policy differences with the Bush regime and is starting to look more and more like Them, what's up with that?
I could go on with details, but I think you get my drift. I had high hopes for this man and he is filching on his promises. So much for change, the only thing changing is Obama.

BTW, I would gladly welcome your input, maybe showing me all the wonderful things he's done besides apologising for the awful Bush regime and saying just like Bush, "this country does not torture" while keeping "inhanced interogation' on the table. Please enlighten me on all the wonder of the Obama regime.
 

kubrickzghost

New Member

Did this person upload a poll chart as an example of Obama's accomplishments? I think this sums up the mentality and intelligence of Obama supporters here. I want to offer an exercise for all the folks who think Obama is doing a good job. I think many who do support Obama are crudely ignorant, and outright stupid. But that can be changed, so I'm willing to help any supporter understand what is happening. The first task in this exercise is to ask yourself what socialism is. If you don't know, educate yourself on it. Then ask yourself what Marxism is. If you can't define that, then educate yourself more. Finally ask yourself what the Fourteenth Amendment is and define it. If you can't, then continue educating yourself until you turn blue. If anyone can't answer all three of these questions honestly, then you should not assist or support Barack Obama.

Bush is not innocent neither. But let's not let this rogue individual take advantage of you, using the last 8 years of Executive incompetence to change the landscape of your country and its free market system for his benefit- not yours. Keep in mind, Barack's aunt and his brother in Africa are still living in poverty. Obama has done nothing to improve their lives since becoming President of a super power nation. That's fine if he wants to be shrewd, but ask yourselves if Obama isn't willing to help his own family, what makes you think he has your best interest in mind?

Accomplishments of Barack Obama;
1. Hastily closed Gitmo, without any consideration to national security.
2. Passed his bail-out packages, which will only force the country into inflation.
3. Interfered with free market by giving billions of the people's tax dollars to GM, and has since taken control of that company- a direct violation of the fourteenths ammendment. Furthermore, Obama has since disclosed that bankruptcy is emminent for GM, which would have occured naturally in the free market. The bad decision led to the wasting of billions of tax dollars, the gov't take-over of the company (violating the laws), the handing over of the company to the UAW, and the export of factory jobs overseas. Is this part of the 2-3 million jobs Obama promised to create?

...If that wasn't enough;

4. Obama has also proclaimed to dismantle the U.S. defense system, including the missle defense shield that protects us against rogue countries like N. Korea and Iran.
5. Obama cut the defense budget, despite adding trillions of dollars in social programs that the country doesn't have money for.
6. Bowed to the king of Saudi Arabia.
7. Travels across the world, denouncing America and its history. Apologized to the world for Americans and its culture.

...Oh god, does it ever end?

8. Obama has appointed inexperienced cabinet leaders, with a majority evading paying their taxes.
9. Obama has lived more lavishly than most Presidents. While telling the people to tighten their belts, he throws parties, travels around in AF1 aimlessly, has pizza flown in from other states...
10. Obama has yet to be proven as an actual citizen, which some dismiss. However, when you add on that his records have been sealed, his wife's thesis at Princeton was sealed (never done in history) and which ended up revealing discrimination in her thinking, and Obama's involvement with radical churches and domestic terrorists that denote hatred against the America culture, the connected dots seem to reveal a larger picture.
11. Was never properly vetted for President, yet he admits after being elected that he wouldn't even pass the tests to become a Superior Court judge. Obama does not qualify, nor would be pass security clearances for the FBI.

It is absolutely astounding this administration is getting away with what it has gotten away with so far... But what is more scary is the blind support this President has. There's applause for this. And the only thing the supporter here can come up with is a Gallup Poll? That goes back to the saying that an ignorant public deserves the gov't they vote for. Some of what I mentioned here can be considered impeachable offenses. And surprisingly, everything is true. It's all documented in the news. Educate yourselves, guys! What's happening now has only been tried once with FDR, and it failed. But Obama is going further than FDR. And don't be fooled by the racism traps. Obama's disgrace has nothing to do with the colors in his skin. It has to do with his arrogance and his disingenuous tact. From one American to others, please educate yourself before voting next time because it might be the last time you have a chance to vote if things keep going in this direction.

Now is not the time to be ignorant.
 

medicineman

New Member
Did this person upload a poll chart as an example of Obama's accomplishments? I think this sums up the mentality and intelligence of Obama supporters here. I want to offer an exercise for all the folks who think Obama is doing a good job. I think many who do support Obama are crudely ignorant, and outright stupid. But that can be changed, so I'm willing to help any supporter understand what is happening. The first task in this exercise is to ask yourself what socialism is. If you don't know, educate yourself on it. Then ask yourself what Marxism is. If you can't define that, then educate yourself more. Finally ask yourself what the Fourteenth Amendment is and define it. If you can't, then continue educating yourself until you turn blue. If anyone can't answer all three of these questions honestly, then you should not assist or support Barack Obama.

Bush is not innocent neither. But let's not let this rogue individual take advantage of you, using the last 8 years of Executive incompetence to change the landscape of your country and its free market system for his benefit- not yours. Keep in mind, Barack's aunt and his brother in Africa are still living in poverty. Obama has done nothing to improve their lives since becoming President of a super power nation. That's fine if he wants to be shrewd, but ask yourselves if Obama isn't willing to help his own family, what makes you think he has your best interest in mind?

Accomplishments of Barack Obama;
1. Hastily closed Gitmo, without any consideration to national security.
2. Passed his bail-out packages, which will only force the country into inflation.
3. Interfered with free market by giving billions of the people's tax dollars to GM, and has since taken control of that company- a direct violation of the fourteenths ammendment. Furthermore, Obama has since disclosed that bankruptcy is emminent for GM, which would have occured naturally in the free market. The bad decision led to the wasting of billions of tax dollars, the gov't take-over of the company (violating the laws), the handing over of the company to the UAW, and the export of factory jobs overseas. Is this part of the 2-3 million jobs Obama promised to create?

...If that wasn't enough;

4. Obama has also proclaimed to dismantle the U.S. defense system, including the missle defense shield that protects us against rogue countries like N. Korea and Iran.
5. Obama cut the defense budget, despite adding trillions of dollars in social programs that the country doesn't have money for.
6. Bowed to the king of Saudi Arabia.
7. Travels across the world, denouncing America and its history. Apologized to the world for Americans and its culture.

...Oh god, does it ever end?

8. Obama has appointed inexperienced cabinet leaders, with a majority evading paying their taxes.
9. Obama has lived more lavishly than most Presidents. While telling the people to tighten their belts, he throws parties, travels around in AF1 aimlessly, has pizza flown in from other states...
10. Obama has yet to be proven as an actual citizen, which some dismiss. However, when you add on that his records have been sealed, his wife's thesis at Princeton was sealed (never done in history) and which ended up revealing discrimination in her thinking, and Obama's involvement with radical churches and domestic terrorists that denote hatred against the America culture, the connected dots seem to reveal a larger picture.
11. Was never properly vetted for President, yet he admits after being elected that he wouldn't even pass the tests to become a Superior Court judge. Obama does not qualify, nor would be pass security clearances for the FBI.

It is absolutely astounding this administration is getting away with what it has gotten away with so far... But what is more scary is the blind support this President has. There's applause for this. And the only thing the supporter here can come up with is a Gallup Poll? That goes back to the saying that an ignorant public deserves the gov't they vote for. Some of what I mentioned here can be considered impeachable offenses. And surprisingly, everything is true. It's all documented in the news. Educate yourselves, guys! What's happening now has only been tried once with FDR, and it failed. But Obama is going further than FDR. And don't be fooled by the racism traps. Obama's disgrace has nothing to do with the colors in his skin. It has to do with his arrogance and his disingenuous tact. From one American to others, please educate yourself before voting next time because it might be the last time you have a chance to vote if things keep going in this direction.

Now is not the time to be ignorant.
Don't worry, Obama is becoming more like Bush with every passing day. Won't be long untill he's giving the corporations more tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas. He is just a bag of hot air. I say show me motherfucker, you made all these campaign promises, show me.
 

Antidisestablishmentarian

Well-Known Member
Whats with the rascist crap. There is enough legitimate criticism of Obama to go around. We don't need rascist crap.
Well she made the ruling to throw out the test results for fire department promotions because no black people and only one hispanic passed.

The rest were all white. The test involved fire fighting knowledge, etc. So now the case is making it to the supreme court, of which she may be on when it reaches there.

She's absolutely qualified, but I worry about that, and that only.
 

Mcgician

Well-Known Member
Did this person upload a poll chart as an example of Obama's accomplishments? I think this sums up the mentality and intelligence of Obama supporters here. I want to offer an exercise for all the folks who think Obama is doing a good job. I think many who do support Obama are crudely ignorant, and outright stupid. But that can be changed, so I'm willing to help any supporter understand what is happening. The first task in this exercise is to ask yourself what socialism is. If you don't know, educate yourself on it. Then ask yourself what Marxism is. If you can't define that, then educate yourself more. Finally ask yourself what the Fourteenth Amendment is and define it. If you can't, then continue educating yourself until you turn blue. If anyone can't answer all three of these questions honestly, then you should not assist or support Barack Obama.

Bush is not innocent neither. But let's not let this rogue individual take advantage of you, using the last 8 years of Executive incompetence to change the landscape of your country and its free market system for his benefit- not yours. Keep in mind, Barack's aunt and his brother in Africa are still living in poverty. Obama has done nothing to improve their lives since becoming President of a super power nation. That's fine if he wants to be shrewd, but ask yourselves if Obama isn't willing to help his own family, what makes you think he has your best interest in mind?

Accomplishments of Barack Obama;
1. Hastily closed Gitmo, without any consideration to national security.
2. Passed his bail-out packages, which will only force the country into inflation.
3. Interfered with free market by giving billions of the people's tax dollars to GM, and has since taken control of that company- a direct violation of the fourteenths ammendment. Furthermore, Obama has since disclosed that bankruptcy is emminent for GM, which would have occured naturally in the free market. The bad decision led to the wasting of billions of tax dollars, the gov't take-over of the company (violating the laws), the handing over of the company to the UAW, and the export of factory jobs overseas. Is this part of the 2-3 million jobs Obama promised to create?

...If that wasn't enough;

4. Obama has also proclaimed to dismantle the U.S. defense system, including the missle defense shield that protects us against rogue countries like N. Korea and Iran.
5. Obama cut the defense budget, despite adding trillions of dollars in social programs that the country doesn't have money for.
6. Bowed to the king of Saudi Arabia.
7. Travels across the world, denouncing America and its history. Apologized to the world for Americans and its culture.

...Oh god, does it ever end?

8. Obama has appointed inexperienced cabinet leaders, with a majority evading paying their taxes.
9. Obama has lived more lavishly than most Presidents. While telling the people to tighten their belts, he throws parties, travels around in AF1 aimlessly, has pizza flown in from other states...
10. Obama has yet to be proven as an actual citizen, which some dismiss. However, when you add on that his records have been sealed, his wife's thesis at Princeton was sealed (never done in history) and which ended up revealing discrimination in her thinking, and Obama's involvement with radical churches and domestic terrorists that denote hatred against the America culture, the connected dots seem to reveal a larger picture.
11. Was never properly vetted for President, yet he admits after being elected that he wouldn't even pass the tests to become a Superior Court judge. Obama does not qualify, nor would be pass security clearances for the FBI.

It is absolutely astounding this administration is getting away with what it has gotten away with so far... But what is more scary is the blind support this President has. There's applause for this. And the only thing the supporter here can come up with is a Gallup Poll? That goes back to the saying that an ignorant public deserves the gov't they vote for. Some of what I mentioned here can be considered impeachable offenses. And surprisingly, everything is true. It's all documented in the news. Educate yourselves, guys! What's happening now has only been tried once with FDR, and it failed. But Obama is going further than FDR. And don't be fooled by the racism traps. Obama's disgrace has nothing to do with the colors in his skin. It has to do with his arrogance and his disingenuous tact. From one American to others, please educate yourself before voting next time because it might be the last time you have a chance to vote if things keep going in this direction.

Now is not the time to be ignorant.
Hell of a post! Well done.
 

bicycle racer

Well-Known Member
i could make a cute little 1 sided list of the last admin's various failures lies deceit thievery immorality that were used to manipulate the american people and popular opinion. as i said before obamas only president because of how badly the repubs tanked the last 8 years. some of us are educated but dont agree with your ways. in fact on average dems have a higher % of college education than the repubs education is not the issue. me im neither a dem or repub but the repubs had there chance and ron paul wont be elected because we dont really live in a democracy anyways. its a 2 party system with no room for anyone else not backed by rich people and there self serving agendas. so given my choices obama is still better than more of the same right wing madness.
 

tipsgnob

New Member
Don't worry, Obama is becoming more like Bush with every passing day. Won't be long untill he's giving the corporations more tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas. He is just a bag of hot air. I say show me motherfucker, you made all these campaign promises, show me.
damn med, you sure flipped fast...the guy has been president 4 months and had a 10 foot pile of shit to climb over before he could even get in the white house. did you want him to flip a switch and make it all ok?
It's obvious that stanleyzghost has personal feelings about President Obama....but you of all people med....I'm ashamed of you.........:confused:
 

jrh72582

Well-Known Member
damn med, you sure flipped fast...the guy has been president 4 months and had a 10 foot pile of shit to climb over before he could even get in the white house. did you want him to flip a switch and make it all ok?
It's obvious that stanleyzghost has personal feelings about President Obama....but you of all people med....I'm ashamed of you.........:confused:
You're ashamed because he doesn't like our president? Seriously?

Or even worse, are you ashamed that he changed his mind?

If the latter's the case, why is it shameful for someone to change their mind, especially in reaction to a discovered truth? It was Emerson who said "consistency is the hobgoblin of a foolish mind".
 

tipsgnob

New Member
You're ashamed because he doesn't like our president? Seriously?

Or even worse, are you ashamed that he changed his mind?

If the latter's the case, why is it shameful for someone to change their mind, especially in reaction to a discovered truth? It was Emerson who said "consistency is the hobgoblin of a foolish mind".
you must be confused...did you think I was talking to you?
 

ViRedd

New Member
Med, like many who voted for Obama, is coming around to the bold-faced reality that they were duped by one of the slickest politicians in U.S. history. During the campaign, I continually tried to point out that Obama was/is an empty suit ... to no avail. Oh well ... now you folks who voted for the Wealth Redistribution Messiah will reap the rewards of your gross ignorance in the loss of your economic liberty.

By the way, have you heard the latest proposal being made by the Democrats? A VAT tax. How's that grab you?

Vi
 

olosto

New Member
Med, like many who voted for Obama, is coming around to the bold-faced reality that they were duped by one of the slickest politicians in U.S. history. During the campaign, I continually tried to point out that Obama was/is an empty suit ... to no avail. Oh well ... now you folks who voted for the Wealth Redistribution Messiah will reap the rewards of your gross ignorance in the loss of your economic liberty.

By the way, have you heard the latest proposal being made by the Democrats? A VAT tax. How's that grab you?

Vi

Bull. Like many Med did not realize how bad the shit was. Both Obama and McCain said this shit os going to get much worse not matter what. So it gets worse and Med throws his sucker in the dirt because he believes too much of this shit.

Listen people, the reason he is not closing Gitmo is because he can't. He wants to but the machine will not let it happen. No funding, you can't close gitmo. Why are you not blaming the people who blocked funding for closing gitmo?? Are you pissed he's not closing gitmo or are you them going to say closing gitmo is a bad idea. You can't have it both ways.

Many of his promises that he cannot keep are not because he has not tried. Its because politics is a slow moving machine by nature and purpose. He is having people block his funding on certain items, then having people blast him for not getting it done, its fukin stupid.

Med, major loss of respect for you. Just another damn sheep that changes his opinion depending on which way the wind blows.

You want to talk about bail outs? I dont see anyone condemming Bush and his "no strings attached" bailouts. Obama at least is getting something from the companies we are bailing out. People bitching about Obama and his spending... No worse than Bush and his wars.. At least we will get something out of this. What did we get out of Iraq??

Times suck so everyone is going to blame the guy at the top no matter how hard heis working to fix shit. His policies go against what many common people think is the right way to re-work the economy but only time will really tell.

People that lost the election need to stop watching fox and getting shit all twisted...
 

natrone23

Well-Known Member
He said he was going to end the Iraq war, bring the boys home by 2010, all the troops out except for a contingent to guard the embassy. Now it looks like there wont be any troop withdrawel untill late 2010,
Noooooo He said during the the election 16 MONTHS........Didn't he change it to 19 months. 3 months is what your so upset for? The guy can't have any room for tweaking the plans?

4 months this guy has been in office, 4 fuckin months

I swear to god man you guys especially you old farts are some miserable SOBs. Sit around complaining all day, must be a drag to be around you guys in person.

I think thats what it is, you guys actually love misery:spew:
 

ViRedd

New Member
Geeze ... it really bothers me to see you guys wallow in such ignorance and denile. You are losing your country as we speak, and all you can do is revert back to your Bush hatred. Wake the fuck up guyz. This is serious!
One thing I can say for Med ... he's opening his eyes. I give him kudos for that.

Vi
 

Radiate

Well-Known Member
I can't say I agree with much of what Obama has done, but the show's not over yet. Not for another 3+ years, if he makes it.
 

olosto

New Member
Geeze ... it really bothers me to see you guys wallow in such ignorance and denile. You are losing your country as we speak, and all you can do is revert back to your Bush hatred. Wake the fuck up guyz. This is serious!
One thing I can say for Med ... he's opening his eyes. I give him kudos for that.

Vi
Get REAL! How are "we" losing the country? Reverting back? I always thought Bush was a douche.. I guess we will see next year if were living in the dark ages.. LOL

As for the ignorance comment, I bring real posts with references. At least im not some damn cheer leader for anyone who listens to some bs Faux News commentary.

Geez... Its really bothers me you don't have a mind of your own and believe the b.s. hype on Fox even tho they have been shown to be liars. Now thats conviction, sticking with something even tho you know its lies... Sounds like the new republican party to me! lolol


:)

:peace:
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
Med, like many who voted for Obama, is coming around to the bold-faced reality that they were duped by one of the slickest politicians in U.S. history. During the campaign, I continually tried to point out that Obama was/is an empty suit ... to no avail. Oh well ... now you folks who voted for the Wealth Redistribution Messiah will reap the rewards of your gross ignorance in the loss of your economic liberty.

By the way, have you heard the latest proposal being made by the Democrats? A VAT tax. How's that grab you?

Vi

Obama is a narcissist with out a solid thought inside his head.
 

ViRedd

New Member
Get REAL! How are "we" losing the country? Reverting back? I always thought Bush was a douche.. I guess we will see next year if were living in the dark ages.. LOL

As for the ignorance comment, I bring real posts with references. At least im not some damn cheer leader for anyone who listens to some bs Faux News commentary.

Geez... Its really bothers me you don't have a mind of your own and believe the b.s. hype on Fox even tho they have been shown to be liars. Now thats conviction, sticking with something even tho you know its lies... Sounds like the new republican party to me! lolol
Fox News? You bring up Fox News and contend that you bring real posts with references? Look, Fox News has nothing to do with my comments. I've been on this planet a long time and have seen the changes that the so called "progressives" have wrought. I was alive during FDR's rape of individual liberty and his trashing of the Constitution, were you? I remember the communist infiltration into FDR's administration, do you? I had my first .22 rifle at the age of 12, did you? I remember when the federal government was limited and state's rights reigned supreme, do you?

So look sonny, before you accuse people of not having a mind of their own, consider with whom your are talking.

Now, with that said, get back into line and continue marching lock-step down Obama's Road to Serfdom. Dupe!

Vi
 
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