SOG growers wanted !!!
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onthedl0008
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Bling Fawkin Bling Necrows.
onthedl0008
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GB ur such a show off haha.. Forgot to post earlier man but that right there makes me kinda jealous dude!!Love u guys man. U All Need serious help.
Peace.
Peace.
GypsyBush
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Dude.. I'm old.. but I am just like a little kid...lol...
I consider that to be one of my accomplishments in life...lol...
onthedl0008
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Dude I didnt even post that time bwahaha LMAO man quit reading my mind man.
livesoul
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Yo whatup fellas, got another question.
I'm pulling my air into my flower and veg rooms from a bathroom in another area of the house. Its summer now and its starting to heat up. I'm considering between a portable air conditioner or a swamp cooler. The air conditioner decreases humidity and the swamp cooler increases humidity (it also functions better in areas of lower humidity). The weather around me typicall has a humidity range between between 60-70%. My flowering room is getting up to 95+ degrees. Its not going to take a big system to cool the bathroom, but i'm wondering what is the ideal humidity range for flowering and vegging. I need to do something quick!
I'm pulling my air into my flower and veg rooms from a bathroom in another area of the house. Its summer now and its starting to heat up. I'm considering between a portable air conditioner or a swamp cooler. The air conditioner decreases humidity and the swamp cooler increases humidity (it also functions better in areas of lower humidity). The weather around me typicall has a humidity range between between 60-70%. My flowering room is getting up to 95+ degrees. Its not going to take a big system to cool the bathroom, but i'm wondering what is the ideal humidity range for flowering and vegging. I need to do something quick!
Return of the Spork
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When I lived in Arizona, Swamp Cooler was the main source of cooling for part of the summer. I remember it SUCKING. Most of the summer Arizona has a "dry heat" meaning low humidity. Swamp cooler works effectively then, but it makes the humidity level in the house go way up. When the natural humidity gets to a certain level, the swamp cooler was basically ineffective and that's when the A/C got turned on.
I am pretty sure you should use the A/C, because your plants will supply plenty of humidity themselves. The main difference between them though is that the Evap Cooler is just a fan and water and a sponge. The A/C will require an exhaust because it pulls the heat from the air and has to put it somewhere.
Hopefully someone else can answer the specific humidity levels, but do you really want to introduce more humidity into a crowded SoG setup? Seems to be asking for mold.
I am pretty sure you should use the A/C, because your plants will supply plenty of humidity themselves. The main difference between them though is that the Evap Cooler is just a fan and water and a sponge. The A/C will require an exhaust because it pulls the heat from the air and has to put it somewhere.
Hopefully someone else can answer the specific humidity levels, but do you really want to introduce more humidity into a crowded SoG setup? Seems to be asking for mold.
grandpabear3
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around 40% in flower, 50% max
and veg/clones/mums can go crazy and need to be above 50%, 70% works perfect for me....60% would probably work just fine.
and the swamp cooler thing......when i live in the everglades we used them year round and it would run you out of the house it would get so cold at night. and during the day at 100% humidity and 100+ degree weather it kept the house nice and comfy.....not cold but definately comfy.
but i would not use a portable a.c. unless it was a last resort. too many people have issues with them. can a big window unit fit in your space?
and get you a dehumidifier and run it 24/7. my a.c and dehumid runs 24/7 hand in hand. always cool and always 40-50% in flower room. and my clones/moms dont get any love.
and veg/clones/mums can go crazy and need to be above 50%, 70% works perfect for me....60% would probably work just fine.
and the swamp cooler thing......when i live in the everglades we used them year round and it would run you out of the house it would get so cold at night. and during the day at 100% humidity and 100+ degree weather it kept the house nice and comfy.....not cold but definately comfy.
but i would not use a portable a.c. unless it was a last resort. too many people have issues with them. can a big window unit fit in your space?
and get you a dehumidifier and run it 24/7. my a.c and dehumid runs 24/7 hand in hand. always cool and always 40-50% in flower room. and my clones/moms dont get any love.
livesoul
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coolio. My flower room temp today was 95 degrees steady. I ended up getting a nice portable AC unit, a window AC wouldn't work in that bathroom. But this portable I got is nice. http://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/AEP09D2B.html Except for the fact that i just read its 800watts!!! Damn, ah well. I'll be monitoring the changes in temp and humidity and keep you guys posted. It has a window mount kit and the bathroom i'm cooling is only 5x9 feet, plus the flower room which is 5x5 feet. Should work, crossin my fingers.
LoudBlunts
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yea my veg RH is low as well
grandpabear3
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i dont think in veg it matters about rh too much. they are always pretty resilient in there.
hey lb.....you know anything about nft? and i mean how does it compare to , like, stinkbuds aero/nft? i never paid much attention to the yields on nft grows. anyone got some light reading around here on the matter?
hey lb.....you know anything about nft? and i mean how does it compare to , like, stinkbuds aero/nft? i never paid much attention to the yields on nft grows. anyone got some light reading around here on the matter?
LoudBlunts
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funny you mentioned that.
health's contraption got me thinking something serious.
one pump. less moving parts.
i think the reason he achieved such high ppms of DO (dissolved oxygen) is because the flow of his water (from my understanding the backbone/cornerstone/brains of nft) was so damn high/rapid moving. Think basic hydro without airpumps. The movement of the water is creating aeration. 'waterfall'
im thinking using gravity and one pump and having the roots sitting in a 'creek', a high flowing nutrient soup with res temps maintained at 64-67F and you are game on. for real.
health's contraption got me thinking something serious.
one pump. less moving parts.
i think the reason he achieved such high ppms of DO (dissolved oxygen) is because the flow of his water (from my understanding the backbone/cornerstone/brains of nft) was so damn high/rapid moving. Think basic hydro without airpumps. The movement of the water is creating aeration. 'waterfall'
im thinking using gravity and one pump and having the roots sitting in a 'creek', a high flowing nutrient soup with res temps maintained at 64-67F and you are game on. for real.
grandpabear3
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that's what i'm screaming. plus my friend dont use co2 or any additives so by the time i get done with it a fucking monster will be born.are you callin me queer?
well i just toured a friends facility in south florida and wow....nothing but nft. and 6-7 pound crops on a 10x10 grid of 100 plants. but i did the math on his last run and he got 24-26 grams per plant. good sure but less than my trays and far more prone to failure when my power goes out. i like that i could use a ups for 1 pump.
well brother, you and i are on opposing sides of the air stone issue but it's not important enough t fuss about so i leave it alone. but what i'm thinking is just an airhog ceramic in the tub...maybe a couple and my 1056 gph pump pushing flow to 4 runs that are ....blablabla 60 plants total,75 gallon res, 15 per run 8'' apart. super oxygenated river with the waterfall. i just moved my room around to change to the bigger set up. i was poorly using my floor space. i was gonna stay with the aero nft but fuck it.....this is sooooo much easier.
and of course......my bitches get lollipopped
LoudBlunts
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im turning my aero table into both aero and nft (with the addition of the chiller and controller bucket)
grandpabear3
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ya i think i'm gonna buy a chiller and get those damn ice boxes........i cant stop thinking about them. its like a god send for temps.......add my a.c. insulated walls and ceiling, ir block and a couple thousand cf air mass between my ops ceiling and the roof of the structure. i'll be all but infuckinvisible to flir or thermal
i'm sooooo close to being a god it isnt even funny.
i'm sooooo close to being a god it isnt even funny.
LoudBlunts
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lol whoaaaaaa calm down buddy dont nut on yourself
i heard that IRblock that easygrow shield stuff really works. SoG has done some extensive research.
i think once you start fucking with those iceboxes they will greatly reduce any chance of seeing you through IR
but to top it off...adding those 'sun shields' for reflectors...they are really not gonna see ya. then we wont even mention our insulation or IR blocking film. they cant win when we are constantly researching and upgrading.
New technology is not only HELPING the feds (FLIR), it is also HURTING them with new creative devices and products from companies like hydro inno's and the like.
i heard that IRblock that easygrow shield stuff really works. SoG has done some extensive research.
i think once you start fucking with those iceboxes they will greatly reduce any chance of seeing you through IR
but to top it off...adding those 'sun shields' for reflectors...they are really not gonna see ya. then we wont even mention our insulation or IR blocking film. they cant win when we are constantly researching and upgrading.
New technology is not only HELPING the feds (FLIR), it is also HURTING them with new creative devices and products from companies like hydro inno's and the like.