250 Watt HPS: Enough?

RedGoblin

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Two plants in a 3x3 ft. closet (sufficient height). White walls inside the closet for good light reflection. I'd really like to not have to vent and/or duct anything if I don't have to because I'm in a brand-new rent-house and don't really want to mess with routing hose anywhere. I am, however, willing to run a fan or two, for sure. Odor is of no concern at the moment. So, taking heat into consideration, is a 250-watt HPS going to grow a good amount of bud on two plants, or is the difference REALLY worth the extra money and potential heat issues associated with the 400-watter?
 

Dr High

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250 sounds nice for noq. you could fit 2 more and add cfls. im about to do that but my friend needs to bring me a ballast. and 400 would be the way to go. but if not add CFLS 2600 lumens.
 

RedGoblin

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I forgot to mention this would mainly be a flowering closet, and I'm told CFLs don't do a whole lot for bud production.
 

krime13

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I have successfully flowered 3 fems with 2 250 hps lights, I bet even one would work since one of my hps lights was really unstable and went out alot.
 

relentlessfight

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I got a 400w HPS in a very small closet too. I just put a fan in there and leave it running the whole time the light is on + 15 mins after it turns off. No ducts or nothing like that, I just leave the door open a few inches. Temps are 80-85F with the light on.
 

laserbrn

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a 250w HPS is fine for 2 plants. I grew 2 monstrous plants in a 2x4 closet and yielded ~ 3 ounces from the 2 plants.

Then I grew 6 plants in there and yielded about the same maybe a hair more, but it only took me 8 weeks total. 3 days of veg (from rooted clone) and 53 days for flower.

Great quality bud. Check out my journals.
 

laserbrn

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That was 2 plants harvested for a total of 3 oz. One plant was a good producer, don't know the strain as it was a cali club clone and they are always full of shit and the other was blueberry and wasn't as big a producer. it did give quality though. I am sure that if I had two plants of the big producer I would have topped a QP pretty easy.

This last batch I did I used 6 clones. This way only took my 8 weeks total and I got just about 4 oz. with just my 250w HPS.

I think that for closet grows this is the only light that makes sense. You can get it down on the plants better than a 400 because it doesn't generate much heat. So for shorter spaces it works well. The only thing I will say is that it DOES matter what hood & ballast you use. I use a sun systems hood and it efficiently disperses the light. I have seen some cheap lights with the crummy little reflector and I don't think that would work.
 

Dr High

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cfls make buds... why do people under estimate CFLS i dont understand. YES cfls will grow your plants and make buds as nice and juicy as hps. ive see nthis guy grow 1 massive monster yeilding over 3 ounces from cfls and love. lol
 

RedGoblin

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Compelling arguements for both sides. This sucks. Does the 400-watter eat up electricity like there's no tomorrow, because I do have a number under which I have to keep my electric bill?
 

babygro

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Compelling arguements for both sides. This sucks. Does the 400-watter eat up electricity like there's no tomorrow, because I do have a number under which I have to keep my electric bill?
A Magnetic coil 400w HPS will use 456 watts of electricity every hour. That's 5.47 kw per 12 hour light cycle. Work it out from that.
 

dog

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cfls make buds... why do people under estimate CFLS i dont understand. YES cfls will grow your plants and make buds as nice and juicy as hps. ive see nthis guy grow 1 massive monster yeilding over 3 ounces from cfls and love. lol
i no i did it to with cfl i got just over 9,oc dry from 4 plants and 2x25w 4x20w 1x30w cfl and a 40w ft lights. and im just about to put 4, 27 day old plants in a smal box room its 3x2ft by 5ft hi, its got a 400w hps and 4 25w cfl in ther, for flowering,,:mrgreen:
 

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Dr High

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i no i did it to with cfl i got just over 9,oc dry from 4 plants and 2x25w 4x20w 1x30w cfl and a 40w ft lights. and im just about to put 4, 27 day old plants in a smal box room its 3x2ft by 5ft hi, its got a 400w hps and 4 25w cfl in ther, for flowering,,:mrgreen:
Nicely done!!:joint: hows the smoke? looks real yummy
 

RedGoblin

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So, based on my situation, let me pose this question: would the extra wattage of the 400 actually be worth it, as far as overall yield is concerned? Take into account possible heat and electric bill issues please, as I've elaborated above and on the first page.
 

laserbrn

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I'm sticking to my original opinion. For a 3x3 space a 250w light is IDEAL. Heat becomes too much of an issue with a 400w. I would say that under 10sq ft. you don't get much use out of 400 vs. a 200. I will try my next grow with my 400w and let you know how much of a pain in the ass the heat is and if I get more yield. I will have to try to find the same clones at the store though to make it fair.
 
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