SoG Grow Room Discussion

GypsyBush

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What is the approximate surface area of the ideas you have?

The jazz horn...

and the 3" duct..

I can be wrong and I usually am...

But I don't think you can beat a car radiator man.. there just too much surface area to compete... in my dumbass opinion..loll...

Why are you shying away?
 

SOG

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What is the approximate surface area of the ideas you have?

The jazz horn...

and the 3" duct..

I can be wrong and I usually am...

But I don't think you can beat a car radiator man.. there just too much surface area to compete... in my dumbass opinion..loll...

Why are you shying away?
still up tinkering,
it can be made two, three or even four foot long of chilled surface area
filling up a 12 diameter tube with the swirled cooper back and forth
with the desired length 2, 3 or 4 feet long, now that's way more surface area then any conventional car radiator IMO
 

GypsyBush

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My only concern is the surface area...

If it IS larger.. Than I will shut up..

You know better than I do....

I am just playing "devil's advocate", but my knowledge is limited...

I say go for it...
 

SOG

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My only concern is the surface area...

If it IS larger.. Than I will shut up..

You know better than I do....

I am just playing "devil's advocate", but my knowledge is limited...

I say go for it...
that's all good bra, its called brain storming :wink:
going to catch an hour or two of sleep before work
 

diggitydank420

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I have to agree with Gypsy. It's all about surface area for heat exchange. Don't worry too much about restriction, you could always add an electric fan with a shroud to maximize airflow.
 

superkiller76

Active Member
I can assume, that because of the degree of detail in your drawings, that you have already thought of everything. Like how you are going to lightlock the air inlets and outlets and cool those multiple beasts, and do so without envoking suspicions.
 

SOG

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picked up some parts from home depot,
hold your fingers crossed for me guys, gonna give it a shoot
picked up 50ft 1/2" coiled cooper and two half open 6" tubes
to construct a 12" main where the coil will reside

i also run my idea by the home depot AC expert
his eyes opened wide as soon as he understood what I'm trying to do
he was so exited about this, he wanted to come home with me to do it
made me promise i will snap few for him once I'm done
 

SOG

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I can assume, that because of the degree of detail in your drawings, that you have already thought of everything. Like how you are going to lightlock the air inlets and outlets and cool those multiple beasts, and do so without envoking suspicions.
sure did, in the process of implementing as we write
its gonna get done right once and for all, stay tuned :wink:
 

SOG

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I have to agree with Gypsy. It's all about surface area for heat exchange. Don't worry too much about restriction, you could always add an electric fan with a shroud to maximize airflow.
i have yet seen a conventional radiator that swirls 50ft of 1/2 cooper for surface area cooling
this is by far superior to any other radiators as far as surface area goes
the most they have is 3-4 cooper poles then they distribute the cold
by placing the aluminum fines across all poles on the outside
 

GypsyBush

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that's all good bra, its called brain storming :wink:
going to catch an hour or two of sleep before work
I know man.. I would just HATE to wear my welcome cause I don't shut up..lol..

OK... now..

I will agree with you on your coil...

But do you agree with me that if your coil had fins, it would be even more efficient...?
 

SOG

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I know man.. I would just HATE to wear my welcome cause I don't shut up..lol..

OK... now..

I will agree with you on your coil...

But do you agree with me that if your coil had fins, it would be even more efficient...?
i have examined the alum fines on the radiators
they have a function of distributing the cold temp
they are not actually connected to the water system
aluminum conduct heat and cold evenly across its surface
its constructed on the outside of the coils, i will string and mesh an aluminum string across the coils;
so you will have nothing to say; and you will have to like it :wink:
going to bend the coils now, ill catch ya guys a bit later :peace:
 

GypsyBush

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HAHAHA!!!

I wasn't suggesting that you needed or that you should create fins... lol...

I was satisfied with the higher surface area answer... I thought you were loosing SQFT, but in fact you are gaining...

(in a childish tone) I just wanted to be right... on something... ... hahahaha!!

Good stuff mate...

I can't wait...
 

SOG

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damn, the tools i got aren't working for bending the 50ft roll i got
anyone has some coiling technique to share
 

greenthumb111

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damn, the tools i got aren't working for bending the 50ft roll i got
anyone has some coiling technique to share
Are you trying to coil the copper inside the ducting? If so get a run of PVC pipe and wrap the copper tubing around the PVC pipe. Presto! a coil. Make the PVC smaller than the ducting of course. You can attach the copper to the PVC at the start with , what else, duct tape. Alternately, auto parts stores use to carry copper pipe benders which look like a small metal spring which you can insert the copper into and bend it without kinking it. I think this would be harder than the PVC method.

Im not sure how you will attach the fins. Hope this helped
 

SOG

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Are you trying to coil the copper inside the ducting? If so get a run of PVC pipe and wrap the copper tubing around the PVC pipe. Presto! a coil. Make the PVC smaller than the ducting of course. You can attach the copper to the PVC at the start with , what else, duct tape. Alternately, auto parts stores use to carry copper pipe benders which look like a small metal spring which you can insert the copper into and bend it without kinking it. I think this would be harder than the PVC method.

Im not sure how you will attach the fins. Hope this helped
Are you trying to coil the copper inside the ducting? If so get a run of PVC pipe and wrap the copper tubing around the PVC pipe. Presto! a coil. Make the PVC smaller than the ducting of course. You can attach the copper to the PVC at the start with , what else, duct tape. Alternately, auto parts stores use to carry copper pipe benders which look like a small metal spring which you can insert the copper into and bend it without kinking it. I think this would be harder than the PVC method.

Im not sure how you will attach the fins. Hope this helped
I'm working outside the tube
got that spring bender crap from HD,
toke me half an hour to make one circle
it gets stuck so hard it wont slide over, its not feasible over 50ft
your PVC idea sound like a winner, are you talking about something like this?



to replicate the fins,
i was thinking to create a crowded weave, twisted a across the coils
this will act the same way as the fins do, distributing the coolness from the coils across and deflecting the air to go in between the cracks

Sorry... without a pipe bender to guide it, I'd be afraid to kink it...
ye of lil belief :wink:
 

LoudBlunts

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well what do ya know bro.


didnt i tell ya that icebox and any other DIY variant will kick ass (on the strength if it works or not).

Gypsy persuaded you more than i did.... but i knew you would eventually fall to the idea!!!!

good luck bro!
 

LoudBlunts

Well-Known Member
picked up some parts from home depot,
hold your fingers crossed for me guys, gonna give it a shoot
picked up 50ft 1/2" coiled cooper and two half open 6" tubes
to construct a 12" main where the coil will reside

i also run my idea by the home depot AC expert
his eyes opened wide as soon as he understood what I'm trying to do
he was so exited about this, he wanted to come home with me to do it
made me promise i will snap few for him once I'm done


dude!!! you know damn well those HD and Lowes guys KNOW NOTHING. they are Tools who use words like 'thingamajig' & 'doohickey'.....confusing folks instead of using the right terminology

do you know this dude at Lowes tried to argue with my friend for like 30 mins? my licensed electrician friend just ended all the debate and arguing by pulling out his license...the Lowes dude couldnt say shit

:hump:
 
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