Summer Garden Plan: Tobbacco Within

Majikoopa

Majikoopa

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Last year I moved into a brand new house with no yard. For me, this didn't exactly scream "Put in a lawn!"... really, I saw gardening potential.

About a third of my yard has just been devoted to the garden patch. So far, I have cleared a large area of weeds and got down to dig all of the roots out (about a foot deep). I have added large amounts of dairy compost and Happy Frog organic fertilizer (the recommended amount). To this, I have added humic acid, perlite, and vermiculite.

My soil was basically a layer of sand with clay a little deeper before. Needles to say, the perlite/ vermiculite will break this up nicely but also help the sandy soil retain some water. Humic acid will make the roots grow in nicely. The soil looks and feels excellent at this point.

Next weekend, I plan on planting for an excellent harvest:

-A large potato mound
-Six tomato plants (four roma, two cherry)
-Six pepper plants (Four Jalapeno, two red bell)
-A cucumber mound
-Six bean plants (yellow wax, I just love them!)
-Four Pea Plants
-Chamomile
-Lemon Balm
-Peppermint
-Spearmint
-Dill
-Cilantro
-A row of corn
-About 30 Icicle Radishes

After the Icicle Radishes finish (30 days), I will transplant some tobbacco plants I have growing inside into their spot. I have a Colonial Spanish strain for cigars and a Native American blend to use "ritualistically" (probably for spliffs:joint:). I am very excited about the Native American one, as it is supposed to be VERY powerful. All of this will be organic and delicious of course :D
 
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SOorganic

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Majikoopa said:
Last year I moved into a brand new house with no yard. For me, this didn't exactly scream "Put in a lawn!"... really, I saw gardening potential.

About a third of my yard has just been devoted to the garden patch. So far, I have cleared a large area of weeds and got down to dig all of the roots out (about a foot deep). I have added large amounts of dairy compost and Happy Frog organic fertilizer (the recommended amount). To this, I have added humic acid, perlite, and vermiculite.

My soil was basically a layer of sand with clay a little deeper before. Needles to say, the perlite/ vermiculite will break this up nicely but also help the sandy soil retain some water. Humic acid will make the roots grow in nicely. The soil looks and feels excellent at this point.

Next weekend, I plan on planting for an excellent harvest:

-A large potato mound
-Six tomato plants (four roma, two cherry)
-Six pepper plants (Four Jalapeno, two red bell)
-A cucumber mound
-Six bean plants (yellow wax, I just love them!)
-Four Pea Plants
-Chamomile
-Lemon Balm
-Peppermint
-Spearmint
-Dill
-Cilantro
-A row of corn
-About 30 Icicle Radishes

After the Icicle Radishes finish (30 days), I will transplant some tobbacco plants I have growing inside into their spot. I have a Colonial Spanish strain for cigars and a Native American blend to use "ritualistically" (probably for spliffs:joint:). I am very excited about the Native American one, as it is supposed to be VERY powerful. All of this will be organic and delicious of course :D
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Just remember to wear gloves when u harvest that tobacco or u may get dizzy and pass out
 
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Majikoopa said:
Holy shit. I had no idea. Thanks for the advice.
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In fact passing out would be the most benign thing that could happen. There was a family that had a farm and they grew some tobacco plants. The mother went in to the field to pick some greens for a salad. Well she got some greens alright along with some raw tobacco. She mixed it in to the salad and every one ate it. Guess what happened?? They all Died from nicotine poisoning. There are some strains of tobacco so strong that there actually illegal to grow and posses because there hallucinogenic and quite poisonous.
 
anhedonia

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Where can you find info about growing your own cigarette tobacco? Are people doing this? I usually smoke non-filter american spirit or I buy a can of it for $21. At least until a few weeks ago when CA started taxing loose leaf tobacco $30 on the lb. So now my american spirit roll your own costs almost $40 a can for 200 cigs. In sac a pouch of nasty ass top goes for over $5. Insane. What ever happened to smokers rights? If the government doesnt have a problem with the country being obese and unhealthy and infact condones it, why cant I smoke to my hearts content?
 
sideburnsnbellbottems67

sideburnsnbellbottems67

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Good luck with the tobacco, I just bought a couple handful's of seeds offline yesterday to take a shot at rolling my own cigars. they'll probably won't turn out too well, but its an experiment. and once again good luck
 
Majikoopa

Majikoopa

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Here is my coffee plant. I will load a picture of the tobacco plants in about a month. The seeds are still in the mail. In the mean time, I have also uploaded a picture of the Nicatiana rustica, the Native American tobacco.
 

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Majikoopa

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anhedonia said:
Where can you find info about growing your own cigarette tobacco? Are people doing this? I usually smoke non-filter american spirit or I buy a can of it for $21. At least until a few weeks ago when CA started taxing loose leaf tobacco $30 on the lb. So now my american spirit roll your own costs almost $40 a can for 200 cigs. In sac a pouch of nasty ass top goes for over $5. Insane. What ever happened to smokers rights? If the government doesnt have a problem with the country being obese and unhealthy and infact condones it, why cant I smoke to my hearts content?
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Good point. You know, I got 800 seeds for $8ish plus shipping. Here are the URLs I used:

This is where I found the Native American stuff:
http://www.victoryseeds.com/tobacco/


This is where I found the Spanish cigar stuff:
http://www.newhopeseed.com/tobacco/varieties.htm

From what I read though, if you are a daily smoker you should not get the Native American tobacco. It is more for occasional use being that it is 6% or so niccotine by volume while store brand is 1%. However, home grown heirloom plants like in the second link tend to be about 3%
 
anhedonia

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That would be cool to have a variety that goes well in spliff or hash smoking. How do you select the strain you want?
 
Majikoopa

Majikoopa

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anhedonia said:
That would be cool to have a variety that goes well in spliff or hash smoking. How do you select the strain you want?
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Just go to those links I posted and read about the strain. Same thing as ordering herb seeds. Most of them say what they are good for (snuff, cigarettes, cigars etc.). A good one for cigarettes would be a Burly tobacco. It all depends on what you think your taste might be, so maybe order a few types and see what you like :D
 
Majikoopa

Majikoopa

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Just planted everything today and put up a fence (after looking at some helpful pictures from purplek). I will get some pictures up tomorrow. I picked up a cool herb as well, maybe some of you have heard of it. It is Stevia. It is supposed to be (gram for gram) about 300 times sweeter than sugar with no calories. Basically, you add like one leaf to your tea or coffee or whatever and use it as a natural sugar substitute. I tried some today after planting, and it tastes like sugar cane! Very good.

Also, the tobacco seeds have been shipped out, I am just waiting for them. Some pictures of those are definitely going up and this thread will kind of act as a grow journal for tobacco growing as well. I have searched the web and haven't found any real grow journals for tobacco, so why not?
 
Majikoopa

Majikoopa

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I would check your local nursery. If they don't have it at any of the nurseries/ garden stores in your area, find a locally owned one and ask them to order it. They are usually willing to accommodate. Also, if your state has a Master Gardener, you can email your county representative or call them to find out where you can get it without having to order seeds. Part of being a Master Gardener requires them to do community service, which usually involves answering a bunch of emails and I bet they know exactly where to go in your area :D
 
old pothead

old pothead

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You must be new to gardening.When you plant corn you should plant two, even better three rows of corn for pollination.Unless you are lucky and the wind only blows down your row,you will not get many ears with it planted the way you have it.Short rows work if you do not have alot of space.OPH
 
Majikoopa

Majikoopa

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old pothead said:
You must be new to gardening.When you plant corn you should plant two, even better three rows of corn for pollination.Unless you are lucky and the wind only blows down your row,you will not get many ears with it planted the way you have it.Short rows work if you do not have alot of space.OPH
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Definitely not new to gardening. I've been gardening all of my life, but I've never done corn before.

I actually didn't want the stuff in my garden, but a friend wanted to grow it and I had a little extra space so I figured "why not?". Thank you for the advice, I'll consider that in future times and find a manual way to pollinate this year.
 
HAT TRICK STEVE

HAT TRICK STEVE

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hi i just stumbeled across your thread nicotina rustica is not a north american tobac,.... it is south american and also called aztec tobacco,... it is 20 times stronger than commerically grown tobacco sold in cigs,... it can kill you be very careful,... it is most commonly grown to soak in water and the concentrated juice makes an excellent organic pesticide for vegtable gardens and prob pot too
 
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