K1Ng5p4d3's Cardboard Box Grow (hehe)

[K1Ng5p4d3]

I see what your saying TC. I guess that now that everything is set in motion, n i cant really mess with the pots in the trays, its just kinda makin me itch, lol. I feel like theres sometihn more i can be doin, yaknow? But i know i gotta leave shit be, n just let nature take its course from that point, but its rough. But, youre right for sure, im just gonna leave these two trays alone, n then when it gets about a month to harvesting the trays, ill set up the other two tables, n get started filling them with clones every couple weeks, so when i harvest this batch here, itll only be a month or 6 wks until i can harvest my first tray. That there makes sense.



OK UPDATE.

So, i kinda suck anymore at takin pics, but i still snapped off a couple of each, so you can see how theyre doin.

Starting with Sour P:
I love how this plant is doing. Its got nice tops all over the place, thatll hopefully turn into some nice fatty nugs. Not a whole lot goin on under the canopy, but there IS alot more penetration now that the new light is in, so im hopin that ill see a big ass difference over the next couple weeks under there.

Next is Church.
Shes doin fuckin awesome. Nice n not too thick in foliage, but theres budsites everywhere, n theres gonna be some nice site connecting action, to hopefully give off some nice thick long buds. I cant wait to see how she finishes to see what all the fuss is about, lol.

N now for the little runts that i shoulda waited on, lol.

Here is Sputnik. She aint the biggest runt, but if she gives me even 1/2 oz, im gonna keep that shit for the head. She is one of the couple plants in the bunch that actually started flowering a little later than the rest:

Now for Northern Lights. Shes about as tall as my Strawberry blue is, n i think shell give off one nice huge ass top cola. Hopefully ill get an oz fromn her, shes starting to look alot like my big widow did.

Here is Strawberry Blue. Shes doin pretty well. I think shell bud out nicely, but who knows at this point, lol. Theres a couple plants here that i wish i could have a do-over with, n this is one of them:

Heres the Runted Diggity Durban:

N now heres one of my faves, the Red Diesel. She looks nice n fuckin thick branched, n lots of nice bud sites that are gonna come together real nice. I hope she ends up lookin how shes supposed to man, im kinda excited to see her finish.

OK, so here is my hydro plants. On both tables i have 20 plants. I seperated the two trays into smaller younger plants, and big beefy fuckers. I put the very largest at the back, and worked my way down from there, so that way there arent any larger plants taking up more light than any other smaller plant. The back three just keep getting bigger and bigger, while everything else just seems like theyre playing a serious game of catch up. I wanna top the three at the back, and turn the top 4 nodes into a nice fat clone, so i can either turn her into a mom, or just flat out have more of The Black to grow out this time around. shes just a fuckin beautiful plant man. I wish they were feminized, n i knew for sure they were female, cuz im a little saddened by the possibility of having to chop one of them down without buds on it. Thats another reason for me to take cuttings though...

Well start with Tray B:

Tray A:

Everything:

Pics from the back of Tray B

Just a pic to give you an idea of Scale:

--N thats pretty much it. N if you wanna get an idea of how much briighter these new bulbs arre, take a look at my last pics of the trays, and youll see that at the time i was using both my 600w cooltube, and the shitty growbright bulb i was using. Now with this 1 bulb its twice as bright in that bitch than it ever was. Almost to the point to where its too much light man......almost, lol.

 

[Thundercat]

SHit brother you've been working very hard man!! I'm very impressed my friend!!

Lol, I'm tripping balls, and your pictures looked so sweet just now man. lol

King I've got ideas, we need to talk..............

 

[K1Ng5p4d3]

LMAO nice dude. Glad i could help you out on your fungal adventure

If u got ideas man, i got ears, lol. Email me or msg me or somethin bro. Well talk, no problemo!

--So i was looking at the fabled EZ Cloners this morning online, and got fed up with the whole shit, and said fuck it, n ordered me 16 of the replacement sprayers for the damn thing, n im just gonna make one myself. I already have a 25gal rubbermaid tub i was gonna make a cloner out of anyways, so this week sometime im just gonna order the neoprene 2" collars, and the 500gph mag pump, n then go to the depot n pick up a bunch of 1/2" pvc, n get crackkin. Ive seen one too many of these things in action at the hydro shops, n when i was at HTG, it was just the straw that broke the camels back. Im gonna build a 35 site cloner, n just throw two 4', two bar shop light panels over top of it. Ill put one cool white n warm white bulb in each fixture, n hang that shit 12" above the top of the cloner. That shit right there should be enough for my ass to get things in order for after this grow right here. All i need is to keep a fresh jar of rootech gel n Clonex solution handy at all times, n ill be able to pulll my 25 clones bi weekly that ill need for sure.

The dude up at HTG said he was pathetic when it came to cloning, n they let him borrow an EZ cloner to take home for a couple months, n ever since he opened it up, hes had 100% success with the fuckin thing. So even though i think i finally got the idea of cloning down, i think having a sure thing in my arsenal is preferable over sitting praying n waiting, lol. having a machine thats gonna do it all for me after i fill the rez, clonex it up, n plug it in, really will take a load off my mind. Plus if i build it this week, i can top the three biggest plants in the back of the tray there, so A-theyll be as tall as everything else n hopefully grow at the same rate then on out, n B- ill be able to have some nice fuckin HUGE cuttings from The Black, n turn one into a mom, n flower the other two out to find out the sex i just gotta get the fuck on top of shit n build it instead of procrastinating, otherwise itll be like a month from now before i git r done, lol.

Anyways, just wanned to add that shit in there for a minute. Just another thing thats on my to do list for my dream growroom, that im gonna DIY rather than shell out 400 fuckin dollars to get the rez with EZ Clone embroidered on the side. If i even get fuckin 80% success itll be well worth my cashola i spent on the pump n fittings.

Hit me up TC, lemme know whats on ya mind, lol.

-K1.

 

[Thundercat]

Ya I'll shoot you an email later today some time man, its nothing urgent, I just got a sweet idea last night.

 

[Prot3us1]

Hey king,
Check out my triploid! (pic).

Also my original plant that i was messing up is all good now, on like its 4th node and is female.

I also built a small cloning/sprouting/mother/veg chamber.

Things are sounding really good up your way, Ill check in again tomorrow . (i check every day, but don't comment every day)..

The triploid is one of the white label double gum seeds. Its only 2 days old. I planted another seed a few days before it, countng the hours from when the leaves opened on each, the triploid is more than 24 hours YOUNGER than the other sprout i put a pic of. The thing had a root out the bottom of its jiffy pot within 24 hours...literally i woke up the day after i planted it...voila root poking out the bottom.

Anyways, im off to TC's grow now lol..see you tomorrow.

 

[K1Ng5p4d3]

Wuddup Pro,
hey , you said your original plant is on its 4th node n female? how'd you determine that its female brother? Are you growing 12/12 from seed? If not, then i have an idea of what your looking at, thinking that its pistils (those little forks on the stems at every internode), but unfortunately that is not a telltale sign of sex, its just a natural part of the plant, both in males and female. I know it sucks that you gotta wait until you start flowering to tell sex, believe me i know, but until you force flowering on your plants, there has been no way as of yet to determine the sex of a plant during vegetation. Once the plant gets a little bigger, you can top it, n then take the top, n get it to root, n then once rooted, you can flower that clone, and find out the sex of your main plant for sure. Just food for thought

TC, hit me up anytime man. I gotta run up to the moon tomorrow to pick up my EZ clone replacement sprayers, n another mag drive pump, n neoprene collars, n alla that good shit, so i can make my "FUCK YOU EZ CLONE" aerocloner. Its the exact same fuckin thing, only it sez RUBBERMAID on the side, n doesnt cost 500 bucks. Im makin a 35 site machine, so ill have ample clones once everything is up n runnin. Itll also lemme be able to top one or two of my larger plants in the trays right now, get the cuttings to root, n find out what the sex is, so im not wasting my time leaving them under my ScrOG net once i put it up.

Anyways, hit me up, ill have the iphone on me man.

N yeh i donated to RIU for theyre new equipment to upgrade the website, so WoOt @ havin the Elite Tag, lol

-K1.

 

[Prot3us1]

Hey king.

Yea i flowered it until it showed, but i might not have flowered long enough and i might be wrong lol..

You should come on in to the chatroom man, pretty cool in there hey.

Prot

 

[Thundercat]

I wanted to donate, I really just couldn't swing the cash right now. Shit is tight at the moment.

 

[K1Ng5p4d3]

I stoled that shit from my wife man, lol. She hoards an emergency credit card, n she connected it to our paypal account the other day. So i busted that shit wide open, lol - ordered a new water pump for my cloner, the EZ clone replacement sprayers, neoprene collars, n 2" netpots. n then while i was reading in the forums, i just said fuckit, n charged off 5 bucks to RIU. She has a 740 credit rating man, she can afford that shit. Besides, 740 is way too good of a credit score to be married to me man. If shes gonna stay my wife, ima have to knock her down a few points

But seriously, fuckin i just FUCKED my grow up man. Bad. I kicked up the ppm in my rez, cuz the plants are getting kinda beefy yaknow, so i kicked it up to 1740, n the next day i see a little rust on the bottom leaves on the smaller plants. So i look in my book, n im seeing all kinds of similarities here, n i dont know if its a copper def, iron, calcium, or whatever, n i let it go for another day. I come back the next day n its spreading everywhere. I took a couple pics, just to post on here to confirm my worries, n everyone that sees it confirms that its hardcore nute burn. I fuckin ran downstairs n changed out my rez, n now im running just some pH'd water in there for the next day or two, n then ill come back with some Fox Farm or my new Humboldt nutes (probly not the Humboldt, im saving them for next grow), at something like 1/2 strength, n run my way back up to 1100 ppm gradually, trying not to hurt the plants any more than i already have.

The huge ones in the back look fine, but coming in to the first n second rows of plants, all the big leaves on the lower parts look fried, and on some of the smaller plants in tray b, they look completely fucked. Hopefully i caught it in time, n ill just see a couple days of shock, followed by recovery n new growth. I guess its just as easy to fuck up hydroponic growing as it is to get it right, lol. At any rate, ill never run a mix that hot again, n i dont see how anybody at all manages to run a mix hotter than 1400 ppm. It just seems like it'd become a toxic soup at that point.


--So i took the three plants in the back, and i topped them so the height was the same on all my plants, or close to it, and i took the tops and threw them into rockwool, so i can try and start to sex a few plants once they root. I figure i may as well weed out the males as much as i can while im waiting for the time to pull the trigger. The three tops that i took have 1/2" thick stems, if not thicker, n theyve only been in RW for like 2 1/2 days, n they already have root bumps. I just dont get what the hell im doin thats so different than what i was doin before, but my ass aint complainin, lol. So far i have 4 Blueberry, 5 Yumboldt 47, 2 Black, n 1 Ice clone. Almost sounds like thats what i should be using for my mother line up right there, lol.

Anyways, fuckin I hope that my plants bounce back . I was gonna set up my netting in a couple days here n get it all set up n ready for flowering, but now i wanna hold off for a little while longer, n make sure im even gonna have a crop to ScrOG in the 1st place. I wonder what the worse case of nutrient burn is that somebody has ever recovered from....

 

[growme12]

i need advice i got a cupple plants and i need a grow box but i got no money what do i do?

 

[420weedman]

easy with the nutes mang ... i think i did that to my 32 oz ww ....
just want to briefly say everything you got goin looks great man
im not allowed to think about hydro till i get my new rooms designed/built.
the whole hydro shop thing where you talk to the guy about growing whatever, but id be thinking weed and would think he was too...... just very sketchy to me
i just dont want u to be one of the guys that gets busted cuz u goto a hydro shop

 

[420weedman]

I stoled that shit from my wife man, lol. She hoards an emergency credit card, n she connected it to our paypal account the other day. So i busted that shit wide open, lol - ordered a new water pump for my cloner, the EZ clone replacement sprayers, neoprene collars, n 2" netpots. n then while i was reading in the forums, i just said fuckit, n charged off 5 bucks to RIU. She has a 740 credit rating man, she can afford that shit. Besides, 740 is way too good of a credit score to be married to me man. If shes gonna stay my wife, ima have to knock her down a few points

But seriously, fuckin i just FUCKED my grow up man. Bad. I kicked up the ppm in my rez, cuz the plants are getting kinda beefy yaknow, so i kicked it up to 1740, n the next day i see a little rust on the bottom leaves on the smaller plants. So i look in my book, n im seeing all kinds of similarities here, n i dont know if its a copper def, iron, calcium, or whatever, n i let it go for another day. I come back the next day n its spreading everywhere. I took a couple pics, just to post on here to confirm my worries, n everyone that sees it confirms that its hardcore nute burn. I fuckin ran downstairs n changed out my rez, n now im running just some pH'd water in there for the next day or two, n then ill come back with some Fox Farm or my new Humboldt nutes (probly not the Humboldt, im saving them for next grow), at something like 1/2 strength, n run my way back up to 1100 ppm gradually, trying not to hurt the plants any more than i already have.

The huge ones in the back look fine, but coming in to the first n second rows of plants, all the big leaves on the lower parts look fried, and on some of the smaller plants in tray b, they look completely fucked. Hopefully i caught it in time, n ill just see a couple days of shock, followed by recovery n new growth. I guess its just as easy to fuck up hydroponic growing as it is to get it right, lol. At any rate, ill never run a mix that hot again, n i dont see how anybody at all manages to run a mix hotter than 1400 ppm. It just seems like it'd become a toxic soup at that point.


--So i took the three plants in the back, and i topped them so the height was the same on all my plants, or close to it, and i took the tops and threw them into rockwool, so i can try and start to sex a few plants once they root. I figure i may as well weed out the males as much as i can while im waiting for the time to pull the trigger. The three tops that i took have 1/2" thick stems, if not thicker, n theyve only been in RW for like 2 1/2 days, n they already have root bumps. I just dont get what the hell im doin thats so different than what i was doin before, but my ass aint complainin, lol. So far i have 4 Blueberry, 5 Yumboldt 47, 2 Black, n 1 Ice clone. Almost sounds like thats what i should be using for my mother line up right there, lol.

Anyways, fuckin I hope that my plants bounce back . I was gonna set up my netting in a couple days here n get it all set up n ready for flowering, but now i wanna hold off for a little while longer, n make sure im even gonna have a crop to ScrOG in the 1st place. I wonder what the worse case of nutrient burn is that somebody has ever recovered from....

and i thought my fiance was understanding ... lol shed kill me if i was u

 

[Thundercat]

Lol, I thought it was funny as hell personally. I could prolly come up with 5 bucks, I might have to check my paypal account. Sorry to hear about the nute burn man. I've been running my nutes pretty low through this whole grow man. I've heard of people running at 2000+ ppm, but I guess it all depends on the plants. SOme like more nutes.

Weedman as far as talking to the guys at the hydro shop goes. I grow vegatables, and thats all they need to know. Ya they know, but thats kinda the point, you don't say it and most of them will be cool as hell with ya.

 

[K1Ng5p4d3]

yeah, it just kinda sucks that i dont know vegging or flowering schedules of veggies, lol. Im standin there talkin about how i have another 10 wks of flowering before i need to get another two flood tables ready, n while im talkin, i step outside of myself n see hes standin there smilin at me like " you dumb fuck, i know what your growin - 10 wks flowering huh? o wow thats interesting...yup...uh huh....whatever man your growin fuckin pot", n im standin there, talkin out my ass like "uh, i have no fuckin clue how a tomato or habanero pepper grows, but ima just guess n say that they grow the exact same cycles as pot does, n hope hes as stupid as i am", lol. But yeah, i try not to open my mouth n get too chatty with the guys there. I mean, they got Sublime playin on the PA system, n they all look like fuckin stoner fucks that grow themselves n only got the job there for the 10% discount on equipment, lol, so i just kindof assume that its all good in the hood, n i make all my purchases as of late through either the Moon in person, or HTG over the phone.

But that shit is done with now. They know who i am, they know what equipment i run, and they know i need nutes monthly, so as long as they know that, they dont need any other explanation from here on out. I never said specifically what i grow, but man, every time i go in there, by the time i leave im slappin myself in the forehead, wondering what the fuck i just did, lol. I'd DEFINITELY hate to be that person too WM, fuckin A. N thanks for the props, im not gonna take any more pics for like a week prolly, cuz it hurts my eyes just lookin at the nute burn. In a week all my plants will be huge, and you wont even be able to notice any burnt leaves man. I cant fuckin wait

N yeah, im a dodgy fuck when it comes to the wife's plastic -- I cant help it man. If i NEED somethin, n i dont feel like explainin it to her, n then gettin the "ok, but this is it for this month, n for the rest of the month were gonna have to do a budget n watch what we spend, ok baby?" speech, then i slip out the plastic, n deal with the consequences at the end of the month, which is usually just a quick Dagger-eye, n then life goes on. It aint like im out here spendin $1000's of bucks on seeds n shit like that anymore, lol. im actually slowin down the spending now that i dont have much of a savings account anymore.

 

[K1Ng5p4d3]

i need advice i got a cupple plants and i need a grow box but i got no money what do i do?

Check the beginning of this journal man. all you need is a little bit of space, a LITTLE bit of cash (like enough to pick up some CFLs, and LOTS of duct tape), n somethin like a carboard box man. I used the upper shelf in my closet for my first grow. I just cut open a cardboard box, and used it as a cover to the shelf, and made it light proof. From there i just took some power strips, and a bunch of 7 dollar CFLs (the spiral energy saver compact flourescent lights), and went to town.

The plants grew fast, and healthy. I used Miracle grow potting soil at first, and then when i saved up enough cash i used some Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil. If your short on cash use Miracle grow for the first month, and then change it out to some cheapo type of potting soil that doesnt have premixed nutrients. From there man, itll cost just a little more cash to buy yourself some bloom nutrients, but it doesnt cost TOO much, and itll be well worth it in the long run once you harvest some nice lush nuggets of something you grew on your own.

Good luck on the grow brother, i hope the shit goes well for you. Like i said, just check out the beginning of this journal, and see for yourself how meager my beginnings were. Anybody can start from scratch man. But beware, its addictive. More addictive than fuckin codiene, i'd say, lol. Your just gonna wanna grow more n more, bigger n better, each time you finish. So beware of the addiction, n have fun with it!

 

[Prot3us1]

Went from kings cardboard box grow to kings multi table hydro setup with like 2k of lighting, clones coming out of his wazoo - more strains than attitude seedbank. lol..i am like a kite right now....pretty high lol.

should i fim my plant..im scared of cutting the wrong thing lol...Im up to my 3rd node now so time is approaching....

 

[j h]

nice kingspade i love the thread subscribed

 

[420weedman]

hey k1ng, tc, gypsy ... just wanted to throw this out there to you guys
i read this a long time ago but never really brought it up

https://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=faq&cmd=article&id=223

it says during flowering you increase the day light to about 22 hours on and 12 off which increases the amount of light they recieve and the yeild ....

just wanted to hear some other opinions ... sounds promising to me ..

 

[Thundercat]

I'll check it out, I've heard things about similar ideas. One guys said he ran 18 on, 12 off I think. I can't remember for sure, but isn't the dark period when the plant produces the budding hormones? Do you think the longer light period would screw that up? I suppose this might all be answered in the thread, I'll check it out.

 

[Thundercat]

lol, not as long as I thought. I get the idea, but at this point I'd have to get a differant timer, and I don't think I'm gonna mess with it. I'd be curious to see if it really had an effect though, maybe I, or one of us could do a side by side at some point in the future.