SOG growers wanted !!!

[GypsyBush]

I'm in the process of setting up my ebb & flow sog and have a few questions for anyone with a similar system. Those of you using 6x6x7 pots filled with expanded clay pellets, what is your pump cycle like? I have a test plant in my system and I have been flooding it 6 times a day for 15 minutes, recently I dropped it down to 4 times a day. Is this sufficient? Also, what is your veg height or time?
I realize these questions are specific to my strain and the climate of my area but I'm just wondering what has worked for others in the past.

I use the 5" square pots...

Straight hydroton in the pots with the RW cube above flood level...

I have done as many as 12 x 15min floods and I have done as few as 2x 15 min floods...

Right now I am at 4 and considering upping it a little...

My main reason for decreasing floods was to figure out how long it takes for the trays to actually dry out, thus reducing the algae growth...

Hope this helps...

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[Code420]

Four times a day is good as long as the drainage is relatively fast each time. I use RW cubes to reduce the number of times I flood per day. Watch for overwatering...most common mistake of E&F systems. I flip into flower at 12-14" tall.

Thanks for the info,
How tall do they end up being around harvest time? I only have about 3 feet from the top of my pots to my bulb (400 watt) I'm ordering a cool tube to let me get the plants closer without burning them.

also thanks GypsyBush

 

[DeweyKox]

I agree with Dewey...

The pack on up to 25% of their total weight on those last weeks... it seems counterproductive to starve them just then...

I think a good dry and cure regimen is more important than flushing by far...

Just my thoughts though...

Hellz yea, I'm glad you agree!

 

[grandpabear3]

ahhhhhhhh........home sweet home. i feel the presence of a mighty jedi knight.......thanks for giving the thread back.

wooohoooo lets party people.

 

[grandpabear3]

screw flushing.....like i said. it's for the potty only! i also did the side by side and my friends and i could not tell the difference. it's all in the TRIM, dry, and cure!!!! (dewey) hehehehehe lol couldnt help it.

 

[DeweyKox]

I water 6 times while the light is on for flowering. My table fills up in 2 minutes and completes its drain in 4 minutes. So they get good air/water mixture. I would think you could water pellets even more the perlite. I also have a 16" Oscillating fan blowing on them, a 4 inch inline dumping fresh air in, and a 6" going out slightly faster so the Mylar door begins to start sucking inward! Seems to work well and humidity is around 50% Max temps when Light is on is about 68-72. That will give you an enviroment measurement. Since I have fantastic ventalation, I belive watering 6 times is needed so the roots dont dry out. It seems to be working very well. I have not experiented with more ventalation, its currently at it's lowest setting, but I'm sure by summer, it will be up and going and loud. But I would say if you roots are drying out and not flowing out into the table eventually, they might not be getting enough water! Then again, this hydro is all new to me. Been using it for about 8 months. But I love it. I ask once on the boards about how many times I should flood the table and we came up with I belive 6-8 depending on temps and humidity. High temps and low Humidity will be a very dry envirmoent, so you must water more. All depends on variable such as those I would imagine. Something to think about.

 

[grandpabear3]

Awesome!!! Glad to see this thread is alive again!

me too

Okay then you soggy perps, lets see some shots of your tables.

ummmm, no.

Heres my 2 2x4 tables at 3 and 6 weeks respectively.
I didn't lollipop these, mostly because i'm still really uncomfortable with the idea of taking 3" of growth off of a 9" plant.

i had to learn to kill em off. al said it was a weakness we must overcome. i still have to force myself....always thinking, maybe this ones ok.

Once i'm a little more dialed in, i'll take some time and conduct some tests to see for myself whether or not its worth it.

thats what i did and as long as you are full @ 4 per sq ft then yes it is.

Thanks for the info,
How tall do they end up being around harvest time? I only have about 3 feet from the top of my pots to my bulb (400 watt) I'm ordering a cool tube to let me get the plants closer without burning them.

also thanks GypsyBush

maybe , dont veg them at all then. that would fix your height issues straight away.

 

[DeweyKox]

I use the 5" square pots...

Straight hydroton in the pots with the RW cube above flood level...

I have done as many as 12 x 15min floods and I have done as few as 2x 15 min floods...

Right now I am at 4 and considering upping it a little...

My main reason for decreasing floods was to figure out how long it takes for the trays to actually dry out, thus reducing the algae growth...

Hope this helps...

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I water 6X 2 minutes in 12 hours. Seems to work well, no algae on table, but in the tank, its a different story. I customized the tank size by going to a container store. I needed a low profile one for my low height limitations and what not. It was clear, and all I had in the garage was Grey Primer. Some light still gets in, and will be taking it out to clean and paint black in a few months.

I do use a good amount of H2o2. I use about 6ML of 35% grade per gallon. Seems to keep it clean enough. There is only a few chunks of algae when I do take changes. So its not to bad, but zero on the table.

Maybe I should give 4 floods or 5 a shot.

 

[DeweyKox]

What up Bugs! I'm soo baked! Party!!!!!!!

 

[grandpabear3]

What up Bugs! I'm soo baked! Party!!!!!!!

sup you.....your in the fuckin zone tonight man. everytime i start to respond to a post, you knock it out of the park man. good shit. i cant give you people any more rep or i would.

 

[GypsyBush]

funny, I have plenty of light hitting my res... not through it, but from the top...

I use the rubbermaid stock tank... and so you know, the 30 gallon stock tanks they make are pretty low... I'd check it out...

Anyways...

No algae in the res....

I only get it on the trays, where the water does not drain completely...

Allowing a longer time between floods has cured that... and it was minimal, but, it was there...

 

[DeweyKox]

sup you.....your in the fuckin zone tonight man. everytime i start to respond to a post, you knock it out of the park man. good shit. i cant give you people any more rep or i would.

I feel Honored! You Weed Baron Jedi Knight! Maybe I will be a Baron my self soon!

 

[DeweyKox]

funny, I have plenty of light hitting my res... not through it, but from the top...

I use the rubbermaid stock tank... and so you know, the 30 gallon stock tanks they make are pretty low... I'd check it out...

Anyways...

No algae in the res....

I only get it on the trays, where the water does not drain completely...

Allowing a longer time between floods has cured that... and it was minimal, but, it was there...

My 15 gallon rez is 5.5 inches tall! I need the room, I'm telling yea, I don't have much room!

I only have 4 feet top to bottom! Here is pics of my setup. The Flower room on the Left, the Veg room on the right. Side by side.

These pics are from last year when I was just getting the hang of things!

A close up of the low profile tank setup!

 

[GypsyBush]

The Lowrider Set-up!

You weren't kiddin'...

Awesome set-up though!!!

 

[grandpabear3]

funny, I have plenty of light hitting my res... not through it, but from the top...

me too.....lots of light!

I use the rubbermaid stock tank...

i use all botanicare trays and tubs

No algae in the res....
I only get it on the trays, where the water does not drain completely...

Allowing a longer time between floods has cured that... and it was minimal, but, it was there...

thats where i get mine now that i dont use h2o2......pisses me off, but dont hurt shit!

I feel Honored! You Weed Baron Jedi Knight! Maybe I will be a Baron my self soon!

oh, wow....umm, well, let's not get carried away here. i know how sometimes we get caught up in the moment.

we'll give you a few minutes alone to compose yourself. dont feel too embarassed, i dont think anyone was watching.

 

[Old Frog]

Nothing to see here. I just like to collect the trays...

 

[sparkafire]

Well Well Well, Just stopping in to say hi. Its funny this thread has such a different feel to it, kinda like home HUH? I got me pee pee slapped pretty hard by the mods and although they agreed to bring back the thread I don't want it to be taken away because of my police methods, so I am pretty much done being bad cop.

So I am from forevermore now to be addressed as Sparky The Love Bud. Peace brothers of bud, I love you.

STLB

 

[Old Frog]

Best avatar metamorphosis ever.

 

[LoudBlunts]

hehe

 

[SpruceZeus]

hahaha
peace and love, peace and love!!!