Start to Finish SOG Purple Kush Do It Yourself Hydro grow

[theloadeddragon]

I don't know if I already posted it, but the room is 7x7x8, the table is 3 ft by 40 inches (long ways with the light) with three 12 inch wide shelves standing 32 inches tall and about 6 inches to the walls. The basin for the table stands 3 ft tall, and the 1 gallon pots are 7" tall, and the 1000W HPS bulb is 7" from the ceiling. When the plants first go in they will be elevated 6 inches, so there will be about 3 1/2 ft from top of pots to bulb. as they grow taller in veg I will drop them lower in the basin until they are 14-16 inches tall, when I will bottom them out with 2 inches between them and the bottom of the basin, so when they go into flower their canopy will be 3ft from the bulb, almost doubling in height I expect they will be about 18" from the bulb at harvest. I have enough space to raise the light four inches if I need to. I am not worried about temps, it stays in the 60's with the 1000W running and just the window A/C unit and exhaust (but I can set the window A/C unit to whatever I want, plus the grow tent has fake wood walls in place for added insulation. I have inline ventilation from the buildings central A/C that can be blown in by a small fan for the summer time if I need it. A couple weeks after the plants are flowering, I am going to line the side shelves with five gallon pots. 15 of them, probably split between Sensi, and Purple Kush. I will give some more details about the table, and how I will be using it a little later. Here is pics of mothers… can’t even really tell I have taken what like 60-80 clones already…. Big fatty is Sensi Star. Tall and sad one is Purple Kush (just had 40 clones taken in the last two weeks).

There is also picture of half my veg area... its half full, lol... big mommas.... I really need to get the lighting finished on the unused half! Like tomorrow!

 

[theloadeddragon]

And Now for the babies... ... not all of these are going in the indoor flowering room, 25 from the big container, and 15 between the other two. Gotta keep the water warm so I have a small heater heating from the bottom... I checked and the temp of water is 72 degrees... the temp in the veg room is 68. Perfect if you ask me.

I took all of these clones from the bottom of the mommas. The ones in the black tray are from three days ago, notice that I trimmed them just today to reduce transpiration. I soaked those rockwool cubes in Thrive Alive b1 mild solution for 24 hours before cloning. Cutting small branches from lower main branches right at the node, downward at an angle quickly with clean razor sharp serrated stainless steel knife. Then dip in water and swoosh, and hold, and then dip in Clone X, and hold and swoosh and hold, and poke in rockwool, misting the entire batch every three cuttings taken. The second picture is also Purple Kush, I won't trim them until after 24 hrs (to relieve shock/stress), the third is all Sensi Star, . I won't be taking any more Purple Kush clones for at least two weeks. I plan on taking more Sensi Star clones as soon as the black tray is empty, . Im gunna fill up that veg area and more, .

 

[Young Macdonald]

Hey bro its looking beautiful man! Might i add some constructive criticism and suggest that you flip the reflector and bulb around 180 degrees so that ducting dosent have to make a 180 degree turn! A good rule of thumb ive been told is that for every 90 degree turn you lose 15-20% fan power. Ill be watching this grow keep it up

 

[theloadeddragon]

Hey bro its looking beautiful man! Might i add some constructive criticism and suggest that you flip the reflector and bulb around 180 degrees so that ducting dosent have to make a 180 degree turn! A good rule of thumb ive been told is that for every 90 degree turn you lose 15-20% fan power. Ill be watching this grow keep it up

Thanks for your input. Im not worried about it for now, but if something comes up later on, than I will do something like that (just not moving the light at all because that wouldn't make any difference). I would probable just add another exhaust on the other side that vents would vent directly out the window). Room temps are fine, exaust is mainly for the hotspot close to the light.

 

[MediMaryUser]

I dont know why but looking at those bushy plants made me think if i had a pet bird id let it climb around my weed trees. Then i thought what if the bird poops on the tree?

They look really good

 

[theloadeddragon]

thanks... so I just got here a little while ago and.... there are 25 Purple Kush clones in the SOG table.... I got coir and mixed it with the soil mix I already had (the mix in the pots in the pics from yesterday was just too light and let too much water through). The clones were only taken 4 days ago... but they were all doing really well... and my wife said "we can't wait any longer, just stick them in there and do what you gotta do..." So I have to baby them for the next couple of days. It stays 75 degrees in there, and the humidity is about 48% (so I have to go mist them every couple of hours), so I am not too worried, accept it may be a little windy in there for them (I might put a makeshift dome over them). I advised her that I could lose up to half of them by doing this, and she said that if I do I can replace them and she will have a break between harvests... sigh.... never argue with your women when she is holding a knife and preparing your food.... anyways, Im pretty sure they will all pull through fine (the 1 gallon pots they are in are sitting in 1 inch of a solution comprised of water and Thrive Alive B1), I will upload pics of them tomorrow or the next day.

 

[theloadeddragon]

The HPS is way too much light for the clones, so I put a black flag up as a screen until I can set up two 4' fluorescent ballasts, the Exhaust pulls out too much of the humid air, and the A/C is blowing in air with a RH of 20%, so I have been misting them more than I had originally planned. the clones laid down when I put them up, they are picking back up now with the light screen in place, and Im misting every fifteen minutes until I get the fluorescents set up. I'm not going to lose a single one....

 

[hippiepudz024]

nice grow i cant wait to see the purple kush in full flower

 

[theloadeddragon]

3 sets of; two four foot fluorescents sprung out of my ass and into the flowering room. And now those babies are reaching for the sky.... Im also using mylar and the black flag as a tent for it, to hold humidity up (staying at a constant 70% in the table, ). Exhaust off, A/C off, 1000W off, . Temps at 71, . Whew....

 

[theloadeddragon]

Do you still live where you did last year? If you do the winter temps are bearable but in the summer its frickin hot and your indoor temps will get high even without the light. What I was sayin is that you can add this inexpensive piece of glass to your light, hook up the vent tubing to it and it will greatly reduce the added entropy to your room from your light. Hence less air con needed and less $ spent on A/C. How you going to keep those res temps down? Anyway Ill be watching your grow

I forgot to mention that I have a heat shield didn't I? Sorry.... stoner and all... got it long ago... anyways... the resevoir is below the table, in the shade...

 

[theloadeddragon]

well.... they are all alive, no rot, no fungus, perky, 72 degrees constant, and flux from 52%-65% humidity. The tallest ones stand almost six inches, shorter ones are all about the same size, 2 inches. I expect to see them start vegging within the next couple of days. I am guessing I will go 12/12 around May 1st. The table gets its first cleaning tomorrow, I have been flooding it once a day so far, and misting two times a day. The clones for the 5 gallon pots that will go in there are almost ready for their pots. The Momma's are going outside, so I am going to use the veg room to veg them until they are ready to go start flowering. Things are looking good, but I am a week behind schedule, because I am looking at harvesting around first of July (too long for me)... I will post pics tomorrow, their just little clones.... sitting in that table in those pots I had.... I only want to post pics showing growth and the differences between photosets. I will probably upload pics once or twice a week..... we'll see, ... I am planning on flowering them all for 70 days each (10 days longer than recommended) but we will see how it goes..

 

[Bublonichronic]

man those are some fuckin sexy bushes...

 

[theloadeddragon]

thanks, there are some fresh pics of them in my outdoor thread https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/179817-theloadeddragons-2009-outdoor.html

So I put those clones it three days ago with the fluorescents on, sitting in the bottom of the table. When I cleaned the table today I added some 1/4 inch thick plastic trays with tons of holes in them, to elevate them slightly to increase oxygen uptake, and so the pots don't actually just sit in the water (water/nutes). I need to cut one more hole in the plastic trays so I can adjust the drainpipe. I took some pics, I took the fluorescents out when I cleaned the table too. I turned on the 1000W, and Exhaust and A/C. Temps are 73 RH is constant 47%. They aren't all exactly perky, but doens't look like any have completely given up, and a couple are looking rather well. After I inserted the plastin and put the plants back in the table I realized I have room for five more 1 gal. pots, should I put more plants there? Or should I space the pots out a little bit more to take up the extra room like I had them before? Let me know what you think.....

 

[greenthumb111]

Depending on the type of grow your planning (SOG right?) I think you can move the other plants to get some space between plants. Once they get larger you will be glad you moved them to get air circulation in between the plants. Looks good. Are you going to finish in 1 gal pots?

 

[theloadeddragon]

Depending on the type of grow your planning (SOG right?) I think you can move the other plants to get some space between plants. Once they get larger you will be glad you moved them to get air circulation in between the plants. Looks good. Are you going to finish in 1 gal pots?

well, if I do DWC with this when I go to flower, then they will stay in those pots, but if I keep it Ebb and Flow, then I will probably cut more holes in the bottom of the pots and make slippers for the bottom of the pots to sit in so their roots can grow farther out..... not sure yet.... A buddy of mine lined the bottom of his table with 4 inches of soil-less mix, and has two drainpipes, and he just set the pots in so the soil less mix is almost an inch above the holes for the bottom of the pots, and that is working really good for him, accept for root entanglement etc. when they get bigger, so If I were to do anything like that I would want to keep the roots seperated, thus little boxes for each one....... If I make the little slipper boxes it would add an additional amount of roughly equal to what is already there for each plant. Its a decision that is going to be made up by my schedule, materials, money, and the plants themselves.

 

[theloadeddragon]

I gave them some dark time last night, and they loved it! they are growing now, . Well most of them are. I am going to leave it at 25 in the SOG I think, so when I decide to either DWC it, or put the slippers on (slippers are similar to what I did outside last year with my C-99), there will be plenty of space for either. I think I am going to put the first set of 5 gallon pots in on the shelves around the side, around May 5th or 6th (when I should be getting some new genetics, mother plants ). I am going 12/12 on April 28th, my good friends birthday, .

 

[DaGambler]

looks like its coming along nicely. my only comment was going to be that you might get a bigger footprint from that light (4' by 5' ish) but it sounds like you've got plants that are going to go on shelves around the table... so... i got noth'in

glad u got ur clones under flouro's. deffinitely sufficient till you see some good veg growth.
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[theloadeddragon]

looks like its coming along nicely. my only comment was going to be that you might get a bigger footprint from that light (4' by 5' ish) but it sounds like you've got plants that are going to go on shelves around the table... so... i got noth'in

glad u got ur clones under flouro's. deffinitely sufficient till you see some good veg growth.
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Yeah, I don't know what my wife was thinking telling me they had to go in right then.... but I explained to her that the 1000W was too much light for them, and too dry, and that the fluoros would be cheaper to run anyways. Im about to get that 1000w going again.

 

[theloadeddragon]

the strongest of the clones are starting their veg cycle, light is going off for 6 hours each day. I expect all the clones to be in full veg by this time next week, and then I will slowly go into flower the immediate week there after. The mothers were fully mature and very healthy at time of cloning session, so it shouldn't be too much stress.

 

[theloadeddragon]

all clones are now veggin, just gave them their first very light feeding, and they love it, . Lights are on for 18 hours a day, and supplemental 4' fluorescent tube lighting goes in very soon (like the end of next week), and CFL's in about a month... stay tuned, .... I'll post pics tonight or tomorrow.... .... I have been considering doing ALL PK in the room instead of adding Sensi Star to the mix.....