I rest my case!!!!

wontime

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Are you seriously that stupid that you think prisons make us money? Prisons soak up so much government money its not even funny. Think of it, they have to feed the prisoners every day, maintain the facility, and pay the guards without any income. Get your facts straight man.

my facts LOL you are so wrong, where do they get the money to build prisons and hire gaurds and build the walls? TAXPAYERS, yes you and me, HOW many job losses would occur? it costs the taxpayers about 50k per year per prisoner, the government just takes that money from our income..
DO yourself a favor WATCH AKA tommy chong, maybe hearing it from one of WEEDS top icons that served 9 months for selling a bong on the internet, watch his documentary and then you will have all your answers!! WEED would kill the government if it were legal, as i said they would lose so much in tobacco and alcohol and pharmaceutical taxes it would cripple them!!!!

they would rather bust you, fine you and let you pay probation and court costs
 

tinyTURTLE

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read the article those are bails of marijuana that they are standing over. why are people sp ignorant, if you lived near the border and heard of ALL the crimes against agents and tejanos and americans you would know there would be an outright blood bath if we took their marijuana profits from them,
fuck their profits.
 

olosto

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Wontime you are wrong about the violence going up 10x... Well it might in mexico but fuck it who cares if it over there? Coke, and other shiz has a finite market. The pot market is many times larger than many of these drugs simply because the majority of people will draw the line at some part. More poeple smoke pot than these other drugs, no proof here just common sense.

Looks bottom line is that I would rather see the Gov tax it, and have them keeping the money, than it goto mexico. Every dollar taken from the cartels weakens them. I oppose just about any money going to Mexico be corruption is just how they do it.

So if violence in mexico goes up, I could care less. And we will be saving money on prisoners and making money in taxes. Thats a win,win, win to me...


p.s. - Nothing against mexicans, ALOT against their gov and cartels, not to mention gangs..
 

wontime

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Wontime you are wrong about the violence going up 10x... Well it might in mexico but fuck it who cares if it over there? Coke, and other shiz has a finite market. The pot market is many times larger than many of these drugs simply because the majority of people will draw the line at some part. More poeple smoke pot than these other drugs, no proof here just common sense.

Looks bottom line is that I would rather see the Gov tax it, and have them keeping the money, than it goto mexico. Every dollar taken from the cartels weakens them. I oppose just about any money going to Mexico be corruption is just how they do it.

So if violence in mexico goes up, I could care less. And we will be saving money on prisoners and making money in taxes. Thats a win,win, win to me...


p.s. - Nothing against mexicans, ALOT against their gov and cartels, not to mention gangs..
how do you tax a product that can basicly manufacture itself, one backyardfull could supply half a town, hows the government gonna legalize it then go searching door to door for people growing their own????

its not a viable taxable product, you dont have to do anything other than grow it and dry it, we dont need factories, we dont need a major industry for weed, i grow my own now and would definatley continue before i pay anybody ANYTHING for pot!!!
As for the violence, again, you are not the ones living less than a mile from the friggin border, you dont hear the news and you dont understand what border towns go through, when the river is only 50 yards wide at some points, its not like theres a wall between us!

If we legalize weed we will be flooded with harder drugs, more gang violence, more home invasions armed robberies, there is no industry to speak of in mexico EXCEPT smugglin!!! its already a known fact that marijuana is Californias #1 cash crop, and thats on the black market, if we took that money from the cartels there would be hell to pay, probably equivalent to 9/11 maybe worse!!!!

I know your gonna say " Oh the US military would wipe them out" BULLSHIT if that was the case we would have taken out columbia and peru and ended the cocaine epidemic years ago!!

Addressin the PRISON issue, the prison machine employs millions, between new jail construction and gaurds, they use the prisoners to clean highways, all FREE LABOR, this country thrives when the prisons are full, not to mention if you are sent to prison in another state or city you are counted on THEIR census and considered as a resident of the city the jail is in, therefor, prison cities get more government money even though thousands of their "residents" are guests of the government!!!

nobody wants to wrap their head around the fact, THE USA MAKES MORE MONEY OFF WEED BEING ILLEGAL, than it possibly could by legalizing...


As i said watch the Doc. AKA Tommy Chong, maybe if the worlds most famous stoner tells you the exact same thing i am telling you, you might not be so onesided, not to mention Tommy uses colorful charts and graphs to maybe help the "slower" kids!!
 

wontime

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Wontime you are wrong about the violence going up 10x... Well it might in mexico but fuck it who cares if it over there? Coke, and other shiz has a finite market. The pot market is many times larger than many of these drugs simply because the majority of people will draw the line at some part. More poeple smoke pot than these other drugs, no proof here just common sense.

Looks bottom line is that I would rather see the Gov tax it, and have them keeping the money, than it goto mexico. Every dollar taken from the cartels weakens them. I oppose just about any money going to Mexico be corruption is just how they do it.

So if violence in mexico goes up, I could care less. And we will be saving money on prisoners and making money in taxes. Thats a win,win, win to me...


p.s. - Nothing against mexicans, ALOT against their gov and cartels, not to mention gangs..

its really a lose lose lose! have you seen a globe dude, mexico isnt around the world, they can fire handguns across the border at some points, you really are out of touch, we arent dealing with a bunch of nice guys selling amway products, we are dealing with stone cold killers and i hear about it everyday, besides theres one PURE UDisputible fact!!! THE SHIT STILL AINT LEGAL and never will be,
 

wontime

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Wontime you are wrong about the violence going up 10x... Well it might in mexico but fuck it who cares if it over there? Coke, and other shiz has a finite market. The pot market is many times larger than many of these drugs simply because the majority of people will draw the line at some part. More poeple smoke pot than these other drugs, no proof here just common sense.

Looks bottom line is that I would rather see the Gov tax it, and have them keeping the money, than it goto mexico. Every dollar taken from the cartels weakens them. I oppose just about any money going to Mexico be corruption is just how they do it.

So if violence in mexico goes up, I could care less. And we will be saving money on prisoners and making money in taxes. Thats a win,win, win to me...


p.s. - Nothing against mexicans, ALOT against their gov and cartels, not to mention gangs..
so if the pot market is way larger answer me this, how will they respond to losing billions in profits???

Also, how does our government TAX weed????
 

wontime

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http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0405/S00262.htm ..bacially it costs 50,000k a year to house ONE prisoner... so please tell me how the government makes money off of this..
they take that 50k a year out of taxpayers money, then they use the prisoners as free laborers, Also prisons create jobs, IE more income to tax....
then when they get out they pay parole officers., live in halfway houses that take percentage of their pay, not to mention if they stop making pot busts they would have to actually go after REAL criminals and dangerous drugs!!! And the pussy ass cops would rather bust a stoner with a pipe than an uzi toting crack dealer

you cant wrap your head around this BUT the logistics of legalizing weed are just too much to deal with.
 

olosto

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nobody wants to wrap their head around the fact, THE USA MAKES MORE MONEY OFF WEED BEING ILLEGAL, than it possibly could by legalizing...
pure conjuncture......

Sorry tommy chongs charts aren't gunna do it for me my friend.

Let me spell it out for you since you cannot understand buying a pack of doobes at the supermrket with your beer and steaks...

YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN BEER YOU DUMBASS AND IS THERE NO FUCKING BEER MARKET BECAUSE OF THAT? There is a huge beer market.

Some people cannot be bothered to grow their own weed for whatever reason. You make like everyone who smokes grows their own shit. Even people that grow their own shit buy other peoples weed for numerious reasons.

Your violence arguements, totally non sequitur, not even going to go there.
 

wontime

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pure conjuncture......

Sorry tommy chongs charts aren't gunna do it for me my friend.

Let me spell it out for you since you cannot understand buying a pack of doobes at the supermrket with your beer and steaks...

YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN BEER YOU DUMBASS AND IS THERE NO FUCKING BEER MARKET BECAUSE OF THAT? There is a huge beer market.

Some people cannot be bothered to grow their own weed for whatever reason. You make like everyone who smokes grows their own shit. Even people that grow their own shit buy other peoples weed for numerious reasons.

Your violence arguements, totally non sequitur, not even going to go there.
so you are gonna buy a 5 dollar pack of government schwag? they could legalize it tomorrow and give it away the first year id still smoke what me and my buds grow, if it were legal it would grow wild everywhere my friend, people would grow FOR their friends, people would still sell it to undercut the government and their taxes,USE IT AS BARTER FOR GOODS AND SERVICES i know id take an ounce of dank to change someones oil.......... another way the government would get fucked!!!
its just a seed man, HOW can they tax a plant where if grown outdoors can produce a pound or more and supply a person for a year or more, why would you buy marlboros weed when you can or already know someone growing dank?

Why do you dance around the real TOPICS, what would the legalization of weed do to the tobacco industry and alcohol?
exactly, and your theory on home breweries, ya thats just the same as sticking a seed in the ground....

you can use big words for someone so small minded
 

wontime

New Member
im the dumbass, i guess when reduced to either admitting you are wrong or turning to name calling we see what road you take.....................


how many industries would legal weed cripple? tobacco, alcohol, prison, probation, pharmaceutical and guess what even health care, yes, id say legal weed would do more to PREVENT certain cancers that anything else on the planet by simply providing a CANCER free alternative to tobacco so how many lives would that prolong?
it may sound morbid but our government that promises us the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness, would really prefer the masses to prison, sickness and early death to avoid paying back our "social security" thats OUR government. the bottom line is the bottom line, I want to live in a world where adults like you and me are free to smoke weed, but we dont live in a free country we live in a country where the government wants/demands a cut of everything we do, from our .99 cent friggin chesseburgers to the lights that run our grow setups, the governement gets a piece of it all!!!
i agree with all the reasons POT should be legal, im just aware of all the reasons why it never will be.
 

wontime

New Member
Your delusional, lol..
Why do you dance around the real TOPICS, what would the legalization of weed do to the tobacco industry and alcohol?
exactly, and your theory on home breweries, ya thats just the same as sticking a seed in the ground....

answer, your delusional LOL

you sir, are reduced to insults cause you have no valid answer to the question and by the way YOU'RE delusional


you're is for you are as in you're an idiot.
your is for stick to arguing with someone on your level as i dont have to call you names to state FACTS, a home brewerie is not econimcal as growing a plant in the backyard, YOUR arguement for that case is laughable
 

wontime

New Member
Your arguements are non sequitur my friend :)

funny you must have dug deep into the dictionary for non sequitur but you dont know the proper conjunction for you are!!!

YOU LOSE!! i dont battle brains with an unarmed man!!
 

olosto

New Member
Everything you need to read is in my post you quoted however many times.. There is nothing more here to discuss... Read up on what a non sequitur arguement is and it will all become clear......
 

Closetcultivator111

Well-Known Member
The murders and crime are a result of the illegality, take away weed and they will just switch to meth or whatever else, cause their criminal, bad people, who exploit others weakness. Weed one be one less easy to manage thing they would have to exploit.
 

olosto

New Member
YOU LOSE!! i dont battle brains with an unarmed man!!

Lose? What did you win then, LOL. My point was clearly made with examples for ya.


Grammar nazi, lol


(no period on that last sentence just for you! Not to mention do you really want to talk grammar on this thread, you may want to re-read your posts, lol)
 
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