I rest my case!!!!

dahamma

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Maybe if you are a bigtime grower/seller, and working on someone else's turf. If it was legalized or at least de- criminalized for small amounts, shit like that would'nt happen. It's because that it is illegal that this happens.
 

aba

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Maybe if you are a bigtime grower/seller, and working on someone else's turf. If it was legalized or at least de- criminalized for small amounts, shit like that would'nt happen. It's because that it is illegal that this happens.
exactly, if weed was legalized than their wouldn't be murders for weed because those people wouldn't mess with weed anymore since it would be sold everywhere.
 

wontime

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read the article those are bails of marijuana that they are standing over. why are people sp ignorant, if you lived near the border and heard of ALL the crimes against agents and tejanos and americans you would know there would be an outright blood bath if we took their marijuana profits from them,
 

wontime

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exactly, if weed was legalized than their wouldn't be murders for weed because those people wouldn't mess with weed anymore since it would be sold everywhere.
ya its ok we just lost a billion dollars a year and our fields full of marijuana are worthless, lets just put down all our weapons and quit fighting,......lol
you must live in fantasy land bro!!!! the fighting at the border is over MONEY and routes into the US not just for cocaine, but crystal, marijuana, illegal immigrants, everything, if we took the marijuana out of the equasion there would be 10 times the violence
 

wontime

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heres what i suggest you do, as a "project' to prove my point, go to New york or Philly or baltimore and try to start a bookmaking operation, take a few bets during football season, see if guido doesnt pay you a visit and break your legs........ the mexican cartel makes the mafia look like girlscouts
 

jfgordon1

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ya its ok we just lost a billion dollars a year and our fields full of marijuana are worthless, lets just put down all our weapons and quit fighting,......lol
you must live in fantasy land bro!!!! the fighting at the border is over MONEY and routes into the US not just for cocaine, but crystal, marijuana, illegal immigrants, everything, if we took the marijuana out of the equasion there would be 10 times the violence
dude, sorry to break this too u...but ur wrong. making marijuana legal will take the money out of the criminals hands. therefore the criminals fall. look at alcohol for instance... when prohibition occurred, the violence went up.. cuz it put money in the mafia/gangs hands. when they legalized it.. it put that to an end. dont be naive man.
 

wontime

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dude, sorry to break this too u...but ur wrong. making marijuana legal will take the money out of the criminals hands. therefore the criminals fall. look at alcohol for instance... when prohibition occurred, the violence went up.. cuz it put money in the mafia/gangs hands. when they legalized it.. it put that to an end. dont be naive man.

difference in your theory is this, the MAFIA lived and walked in AMERICA the mexican cartel kills for revenge, the mafia wouldnt just kill innocent people cause liquor was made legal, but you take that money from the mexican cartel and border agents, american tourists, people like me who live near the border and hear about the revenge murders daily, we KNOW how much more violent it will be if we take that profit from them, you are the naive one...
ALSO what did the mafia turn to to replace the illegal booze???? Heroin, the downfall of the mob!!!!
 

jahman2222

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difference in your theory is this, the MAFIA lived and walked in AMERICA the mexican cartel kills for revenge, the mafia wouldnt just kill innocent people cause liquor was made legal, but you take that money from the mexican cartel and border agents, american tourists, people like me who live near the border and hear about the revenge murders daily, we KNOW how much more violent it will be if we take that profit from them, you are the naive one...
ALSO what did the mafia turn to to replace the illegal booze???? Heroin, the downfall of the mob!!!!
Actualy RICO was the downfall of the mafia.
 

grassified

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Yeah and i rest MY case. You pretty much just contradicted yourself there, the whole reason all that shit is happening on US soil is because WEED IS ILLEGAL and it is HARD TO GET and of course, it is WORTH LOTS OF MONEY. Everything that is illegal and in turn worth lots of money, it going to cause problems like this.

Think about the diamond trade in africa, or even oil. If cabbage was $5,000 a pound and illegal I am sure it would create problems like this too.

If weed were made legal, then more people would grow it, more importantly the government would grow and distribute it, in a far more cost effective and safe manner than the mexican drug cartels, therefore putting the drug cartels out of business and ending this violence.
 

aba

Well-Known Member
ya its ok we just lost a billion dollars a year and our fields full of marijuana are worthless, lets just put down all our weapons and quit fighting,......lol
you must live in fantasy land bro!!!! the fighting at the border is over MONEY and routes into the US not just for cocaine, but crystal, marijuana, illegal immigrants, everything, if we took the marijuana out of the equasion there would be 10 times the violence
damn you dont get it dude, what you think their gonna start attacking the coffee shops all other the U.S? lol..... their just gonna stop dealing with marijuana and do more coke deals.. your the one in your fantasy world :?
 

wontime

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damn you dont get it dude, what you think their gonna start attacking the coffee shops all other the U.S? lol..... their just gonna stop dealing with marijuana and do more coke deals.. your the one in your fantasy world :?

so is that what our government should do then. legalize pot, take that profit from the cartel and then just accept the fact they are going to offset their losses by doubling or trippling the amount of cocaine, heroin and crystal meth and illegal aliens that they smuggle? so would that make a better america??? ya pot smokers would be happy, you are all missing the big picture, the only way the AMERICAN government can make BIG money on marijuana is by keeping it illegal,
prison machine, probation machine, all fines and court costs, all are fueled by simple misdemeanor pot busts, you know as well as i do, major cash seizures all for a friggin plant!
legalized weed would cut into the profits of big tobacco and all the big brewers, as people would probably drink less and smoke alot less cigarettes , pharmaceutical companies would lose their ass if people could grow medicine that could help them instead of having to buy pills, this fcked up country does not want us high and happy, they want us poor and addicted to highly TAXED substances!!!

BUT, I WILL NOT WAIVER FROM MY STAND THAT THE MEXICAN CARTELS WOULD MAKE AMERICA SUFFER IN MORE WAYS THAN IT WOULD BE WORTH TO HAVE WEED LEGAL........ WE CAN ONLY HOPE FOR DECRIMINALIZATION, AS THAT WAY THEY CAN STILL SHIP THE SHIT!!! if we make it legal and take them out of the equasion, expect a flood of crimes to offset that profit
 

wontime

New Member
Yeah and i rest MY case. You pretty much just contradicted yourself there, the whole reason all that shit is happening on US soil is because WEED IS ILLEGAL and it is HARD TO GET and of course, it is WORTH LOTS OF MONEY. Everything that is illegal and in turn worth lots of money, it going to cause problems like this.

Think about the diamond trade in africa, or even oil. If cabbage was $5,000 a pound and illegal I am sure it would create problems like this too.

If weed were made legal, then more people would grow it, more importantly the government would grow and distribute it, in a far more cost effective and safe manner than the mexican drug cartels,<b> therefore putting the drug cartels out of business and ending this violence.
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why is the crime rate going up now during the recession? people who normally wouldnt think of dealing or stealing are turning to whatever to make ends meet, BUT YOUR theory is a MAJOR group of HEAVILY armed and well organized criminals would just say ahhh fuckit lets just go straight now and leave those nice people alone??
YOU MUST be a middle america one of the flly over states that just doesnt see what people who live in border towns see!!!!
where i live in laredo a border agent found 300k in a duffle bag, he didnt turn it in, they found him, his wife and 7 yr old kid hacked to death with a machete, they left the money there too... they just wanted to prove a point, so i am sure they wouldnt mind us taking a few billion from them!!!! i am sure you are right, our government is just being meanies by not letting you get high in public, or grow a field of weed in your backyard, get over it, it wont be legal, ever!!!
 

wontime

New Member
Yeah and i rest MY case. You pretty much just contradicted yourself there, the whole reason all that shit is happening on US soil is because WEED IS ILLEGAL and it is HARD TO GET and of course, it is WORTH LOTS OF MONEY. Everything that is illegal and in turn worth lots of money, it going to cause problems like this.

Think about the diamond trade in africa, or even oil. If cabbage was $5,000 a pound and illegal I am sure it would create problems like this too.

If weed were made legal, then more people would grow it, more importantly the government would grow and distribute it, in a far more cost effective and safe manner than the mexican drug cartels, therefore putting the drug cartels out of business and ending this violence.
WEED does not have to be processed to be ready to smoke like those delicious cigarettes people love, people smoking weed could grow enough for themselves in just a small grow so there would be no reason for the government to grow, and therefor no ability to sell or tax it.... thats why it will always be illegal in this country, they cannot figure out how to profit more from growing it then they make off busting people!!! PERIOD
regardless of your patriotism, this fucked up country is designed for everyone to fail, the more people fail the more our government prospers, the bottom line is the bottom line, theres just no money in it for the government to legalize it
 

jahman2222

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so is that what our government should do then. legalize pot, take that profit from the cartel and then just accept the fact they are going to offset their losses by doubling or trippling the amount of cocaine, heroin and crystal meth and illegal aliens that they smuggle? so would that make a better america??? ya pot smokers would be happy, you are all missing the big picture, the only way the AMERICAN government can make BIG money on marijuana is by keeping it illegal,
prison machine, probation machine, all fines and court costs, all are fueled by simple misdemeanor pot busts, you know as well as i do, major cash seizures all for a friggin plant!
legalized weed would cut into the profits of big tobacco and all the big brewers, as people would probably drink less and smoke alot less cigarettes , pharmaceutical companies would lose their ass if people could grow medicine that could help them instead of having to buy pills, this fcked up country does not want us high and happy, they want us poor and addicted to highly TAXED substances!!!

BUT, I WILL NOT WAIVER FROM MY STAND THAT THE MEXICAN CARTELS WOULD MAKE AMERICA SUFFER IN MORE WAYS THAN IT WOULD BE WORTH TO HAVE WEED LEGAL........ WE CAN ONLY HOPE FOR DECRIMINALIZATION, AS THAT WAY THEY CAN STILL SHIP THE SHIT!!! if we make it legal and take them out of the equasion, expect a flood of crimes to offset that profit
Are you seriously that stupid that you think prisons make us money? Prisons soak up so much government money its not even funny. Think of it, they have to feed the prisoners every day, maintain the facility, and pay the guards without any income. Get your facts straight man.
 

jahman2222

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WEED does not have to be processed to be ready to smoke like those delicious cigarettes people love, people smoking weed could grow enough for themselves in just a small grow so there would be no reason for the government to grow, and therefor no ability to sell or tax it.... thats why it will always be illegal in this country, they cannot figure out how to profit more from growing it then they make off busting people!!! PERIOD
regardless of your patriotism, this fucked up country is designed for everyone to fail, the more people fail the more our government prospers, the bottom line is the bottom line, theres just no money in it for the government to legalize it
Ok so why donsent everyone in America grow there own strawberrys, or any other fruit or vegetable out there? Can a guy living in the middle of NYC or Chicago go out and grow weed. Your arguments are retarded ( no offence to mentally changleged people) you seriously sound like a dumbass.
 

jahman2222

Well-Known Member
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why is the crime rate going up now during the recession? people who normally wouldnt think of dealing or stealing are turning to whatever to make ends meet, BUT YOUR theory is a MAJOR group of HEAVILY armed and well organized criminals would just say ahhh fuckit lets just go straight now and leave those nice people alone??
YOU MUST be a middle america one of the flly over states that just doesnt see what people who live in border towns see!!!!
where i live in laredo a border agent found 300k in a duffle bag, he didnt turn it in, they found him, his wife and 7 yr old kid hacked to death with a machete, they left the money there too... they just wanted to prove a point, so i am sure they wouldnt mind us taking a few billion from them!!!! i am sure you are right, our government is just being meanies by not letting you get high in public, or grow a field of weed in your backyard, get over it, it wont be legal, ever!!!
Ok so sence the government is taking it away, are they gona come and chop up Obama or any other high ranking government offical? Do you think these people want to have the entire U.S military on there ass's. All they want to do is do business, not bring any more attention to themselves than they already have.
 

ANC

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Prisons make the people who run and own them (private jails) tonnes of money...
 
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