1000w BarneysFarm Red Diesel

[Bublonichronic]

im saying 30 grams a plant. no but really i dont mean to come across like a dick. we all have our way of doing things. right now i got 30 plants sog method under 2k watters. with 3 weeks left. each of them i vegged pretty damn early but ill prolly still get 2 ozs each. i waited til they were about 18 inches tall. and i also have 12 fucking bushes!! underneath 2 4 foot 6 bulb t5s. 24 hrs of light. im almost looking more forward to flowering those big mommas after the harvest then i am of the actual harvest of the 30..

sorry im blazed of some jack herer i got ...damn shits fire. love my illadelph<3

ahh look bro i apreciate all comments even the not so good ones, so please keep your opinions loud im still learning...but right now my main concern is that my girls will go hermi on me because of stress, but in that worst case senario cant i just pluck off the balls as i see them form? i dunno here is a pic of today still lookin good (to me)

 

[GoldenGanja13]

I wouldn't worry to much about it. If it happens, well shit happens. Being you have just three, and lets say you caught one hermie when it first showed, I would toss it out back and let it grow in the sun. If you catch a hermie after its blown its sac, well thats that. I would pick out seeds before loading a bowl.
Happy Grows, keep us up to date.

 

[Bublonichronic]

I wouldn't worry to much about it. If it happens, well shit happens. Being you have just three, and lets say you caught one hermie when it first showed, I would toss it out back and let it grow in the sun. If you catch a hermie after its blown its sac, well thats that. I would pick out seeds before loading a bowl.
Happy Grows, keep us up to date.

well id like to be able to grow outdoor but i dont want any unnecessary attention from the neighbors or the 5.0, choppa always flyin by...but you dont think just chopin premature balls will work? and another thing i saw you posted was that plants turned 12/12 early dont have the hormones to trigger so thats why flower could take longer??

 

[Purple^stars]

im grabbing a seat!

 

[GoldenGanja13]

Here are some facts I was able to pull up.
A plant that shows sex at the forth week of vegetative growth can be kept in vegetative growth for a few more weeks to allow the plant to generate more node regions (leading to more branch and leaf growth). When the plant is flowered, this extra stage of growth should help the plant to achieve optimal results however the grow time is extended by a few more weeks to obtain this.
&#8226; Bud production does not increase at the same rate as plant growth. Bud production depends on your growing environment, your strain's genetic makeup and the amount of nodes the plant has. All nodes are potential bud areas, but every strain has a genetic threshold for bud production.
&#8226; It is possible to get more bud with lots of plants that are flowered as soon as they're mature (which also keeps them shorter and smaller), than extending vegetative growth with less plants until they reach their maximum height and size. The time frame for the shorter option also produces more bud turnover per year.
Here's the important part of the subject of 12/12 before flowering
Problems with 12/12
If you switch to 12/12 before pre-flowers have shown, you may encounter the following problems:
1. Stress-related sex problems (hermaphrodites)
2. Abnormal bud growth

Early-induced flowering* isn't the same thing as forcing your plants to flower. If you force flower a strain before it has pre-flowered it will flower at roughly the same time as a plant from the same strain that has been flowered after calyx development has occurred naturally. Force flowering simply acts by stressing the plant into a crisis condition.
You will get the best out of your plant by waiting until it starts pre-flowering before switching to 12/12.
http://www.marijuanahydro.com/flowering.html Here's the site.

 

[Bublonichronic]

Here are some facts I was able to pull up.
A plant that shows sex at the forth week of vegetative growth can be kept in vegetative growth for a few more weeks to allow the plant to generate more node regions (leading to more branch and leaf growth). When the plant is flowered, this extra stage of growth should help the plant to achieve optimal results however the grow time is extended by a few more weeks to obtain this.
• Bud production does not increase at the same rate as plant growth. Bud production depends on your growing environment, your strain's genetic makeup and the amount of nodes the plant has. All nodes are potential bud areas, but every strain has a genetic threshold for bud production.
• It is possible to get more bud with lots of plants that are flowered as soon as they're mature (which also keeps them shorter and smaller), than extending vegetative growth with less plants until they reach their maximum height and size. The time frame for the shorter option also produces more bud turnover per year.
Here's the important part of the subject of 12/12 before flowering
Problems with 12/12
If you switch to 12/12 before pre-flowers have shown, you may encounter the following problems:
1. Stress-related sex problems (hermaphrodites)
2. Abnormal bud growth

Early-induced flowering* isn't the same thing as forcing your plants to flower. If you force flower a strain before it has pre-flowered it will flower at roughly the same time as a plant from the same strain that has been flowered after calyx development has occurred naturally. Force flowering simply acts by stressing the plant into a crisis condition.
You will get the best out of your plant by waiting until it starts pre-flowering before switching to 12/12.
http://www.marijuanahydro.com/flowering.html Here's the site.

thanks for the insite brotha, awsome link

 

[GoldenGanja13]

Your welcome. May the Ganja Goddess Bless your garden and keep the balls off.

 

[NegligentMother]

theyre lookin good. i think its gonna turn out great.

 

[theloadeddragon]

hahaha, thanks for the input guys but honestly...this is NOT my first grow ok.....so i have an idea how much they will grow in next 4 weeks, i estimate 12" leaveing them at 17" when they stary really packin on the budds...that is good enough to prolly pull 2 oz. a plant given i dont cut early! and DP pretty much broke down the reason i want small squat plants.....LIGHT PENITRATION...so it is the TALL plant that was OVER veggd.(for indoor growing) that will have the popcorn nuggs not the squat close to the light plant, think about it, your furthest nugg might be 4 ft away from you light, mine will be like 2 ft....that might not make sence to some but it makes sence to me and a couple people with awsome journals, plus i just wake~n~bake so im pretty blazed

Dude, your better off with the 400W... why are you wasting your money on the 1000W.....3 small plants @ 17 inches tall will yield you three quarters to an oz dry each. I grow with a 1000W in a self constructed tent. I have 25 small plants in mine, that I plan to get a little more than an ounce off of each, and they will be taller/wider than yours when I 12/12, and I am going to have 15 even larger plants in there that I plan to pull 2-3 oz's off each. so 37.5+25=62.5 oz's (3.9 lb.s), its easy, all you do is use supplimental lighting (4' fluorescent bulbs an each square side)..... your wasting your money on pg+e....

 

[Bublonichronic]

Dude, your better off with the 400W... why are you wasting your money on the 1000W.....3 small plants @ 17 inches tall will yield you three quarters to an oz dry each. I grow with a 1000W in a self constructed tent. I have 25 small plants in mine, that I plan to get a little more than an ounce off of each, and they will be taller/wider than yours when I 12/12, and I am going to have 15 even larger plants in there that I plan to pull 2-3 oz's off each. so 37.5+25=62.5 oz's (3.9 lb.s), its easy, all you do is use supplimental lighting (4' fluorescent bulbs an each square side)..... your wasting your money on pg+e....

uhh yea i guess that would drop my temps alot too but at this point im done fuckin with shit so i'll just hope for the best, thanks for stopin by

 

[theloadeddragon]

You said your grow tent is inside of a larger room right? What are the dimensions of each? (LxWxH) and where is the tent positioned in the room? If it is difficult to explain it shouldn't be too difficult to draw up a quick layout on paint. I would like to suggest waiting to preflower (1 month) to switch to 12/12, to determine sex (cuz they are from seed correct?), once you have determined sex take 10 clones from the lower portion of the strongest female and veg them in the outer room under fluorescents. It all depends though.... and dude your going to be paying about eh roughly 600-800 total to pg+e for this, is it worth it for just over three ounces? Trust me, and you will thank me later, Peace.

 

[GoldenGanja13]

uhh yea i guess that would drop my temps alot too but at this point im done fuckin with shit so i'll just hope for the best, thanks for stopin by

Keep your head up!

 

[brick20]

Diesel huh?

 

[Bublonichronic]

You said your grow tent is inside of a larger room right? What are the dimensions of each? (LxWxH) and where is the tent positioned in the room? If it is difficult to explain it shouldn't be too difficult to draw up a quick layout on paint. I would like to suggest waiting to preflower (1 month) to switch to 12/12, to determine sex (cuz they are from seed correct?), once you have determined sex take 10 clones from the lower portion of the strongest female and veg them in the outer room under fluorescents. It all depends though.... and dude your going to be paying about eh roughly 600-800 total to pg+e for this, is it worth it for just over three ounces? Trust me, and you will thank me later, Peace.

ehh i dont really feel like drawin up a layout, but its a DR150 (4 11 x 4 11 x 7) in a decent sized room that dosent get to hot plus i draw air from another much colder room so.....and to be honest man i deff. notice a difference in the 400w to the 1000w, i dunno if you have ever jumped that much in watts but it is a noticible difference in growth that i would like to keep, and seeing as a oz is like $500 (for anything decent)i wouldnt mind paying $300 in elct. for couple oz of some super dank, but thatnks for the input here they are today, DAY 27alive (DAY 6 FLOWER)

 

[theloadeddragon]

ehh i dont really feel like drawin up a layout, but its a DR150 (4 11 x 4 11 x 7) in a decent sized room that dosent get to hot plus i draw air from another much colder room so.....and to be honest man i deff. notice a difference in the 400w to the 1000w, i dunno if you have ever jumped that much in watts but it is a noticible difference in growth that i would like to keep, and seeing as a oz is like $500 (for anything decent)i wouldnt mind paying $300 in elct. for couple oz of some super dank, but thatnks for the input here they are today, DAY 27alive (DAY 6 FLOWER)

You must live far from Cali....

 

[Bublonichronic]

far enough, but i tell ya, i think about moving there all the time

 

[theloadeddragon]

far enough, but i tell ya, i think about moving there all the time

Why are you apposed to maximizing to spending power of your dollars, and living up to the potential of those gorgeous plants?

 

[Bublonichronic]

to late to pull out of 12/12 im pretty sure...?..and as far as the light i just love my 1000w to much i guess...maybe im just lookin at this like a noob, but all the ingredients are there for a bomb plant temp,vent,lumens,bomb nutes/soil,PHdwater,periodic flushing...everything but turning them early is almost ideal so with some lsting and some hope 2oz a plant or 1 1/2 at least

 

[theloadeddragon]

to late to pull out of 12/12 im pretty sure...?..and as far as the light i just love my 1000w to much i guess...maybe im just lookin at this like a noob, but all the ingredients are there for a bomb plant temp,vent,lumens,bomb nutes/soil,PHdwater,periodic flushing...everything but turning them early is almost ideal so with some lsting and some hope 2oz a plant or 1 1/2 at least

why don't you clone them as soon as they show sex then, and have a next set of guaruntee females to add/go in next..... Im just trying to suggest getting the maximum out of what you have thats all...

 

[Bublonichronic]

why don't you clone them as soon as they show sex then, and have a next set of guaruntee females to add/go in next..... Im just trying to suggest getting the maximum out of what you have thats all...

yea thats sounds like an idea, still waitin for signs tho