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chitownsmoking
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most of us harvest on tricones not hairs dog
average amount of red hairs at harvest?
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t0k3s
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Did you even read the thread,and no Im not a dog,and when you learn to spell then step up dawg
What is a tricone?
scottish lad
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its a fancy word for your crystls you need to wait till they are roughly 70% amber not the hairs .
you need a plus 30 microscope to have a good look at them .
they will go milky white first then amber
you need a plus 30 microscope to have a good look at them .
they will go milky white first then amber
malbulja
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I like sprinkles on my tricone...
rollingotties
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hey guys, great thread. and tons of info. i was confused myself about when to harvest, what kind of high i would get, thc degrading, and all that stuff. this thread really solved a bunch of my questions.
keep it up and happy growing
keep it up and happy growing
t0k3s
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lol,the guy above you does not even have a clue hahaI like sprinkles on my tricone...
Brick Top
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its a fancy word for your crystls you need to wait till they are roughly 70% amber not the hairs .
you need a plus 30 microscope to have a good look at them .
they will go milky white first then amber
You "need" your trichomes to be 70% amber ONLY IF you want more of a couch-lock stone.
If you want more of a head high you want to harvest when the trichomes are milky white.
t0k3s
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Brick Top
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Id hate to be smoking your bud
If you let your trichomes turn mostly amber I would really hate to smoke your bud.
malbulja
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From the sound of these posts it would seem that there is no need for different phenotypes (Sativa, Indica) because apparently you can achieve a Sativa type head high by just harvesting any plant when the trichs are milky white and acheive an Indica high by just waiting till any plant is all amber.
Wouldn't it make more sense to just grow the strain for the type of high you want and then harvest the plant when its actually done instead of trying to manipulate nature??
Brick Top
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That is not true. The basic high or stone will be decided genetically but you can fine tune it. You can increase certain effects to a point but not beyond that.
For example sativas from equatorial regions have not only THC but also THCV and there is nothing you can ever do to create that in any strain that does not genetically have it regardless of what is done either during growing or harvesting.
t0k3s
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Ive been trying to get that across....but according to these guy's, 500 years ago you could just stroll over to radio shack and pick up a scope at harvest time
t0k3s
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Brick Top
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Ive been trying to get that across....but according to these guy's, 500 years ago you could just stroll over to radio shack and pick up a scope at harvest time
That doesn't make any sense. It is not as if trichomes turn amber and then stop and not turn brown and therfore the pot is worthless and lacking a scope 500 years ago you wold not have any better chance of knowing when trichomes were amber than you would when they were mikly white or even clear.
Not to mention that 500 years ago no one knew what effects different colored trichomes would produce since they did not even know what trichomes were.
The most anyone could have done is to sample buds and when they like dit they harvested it and since mikly white trichomes will get you high what makes anyone think someone would have them waited longer?
There is no logic to your position because what you believe in would take the same scope/technology to assure as harvesting when trichomes are milky white would.
Brick Top
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You just proved yourself wrong in your own answer.
Where? I said that you can fine tune effects but you cannot totally alter them.
You cannot turn a sativa into an indica by harvesting when the trichomes are amber and you cannot turn an indica into a sativa by harvesting when the trichomes are milky but you can increase the head high or couch-lock effects somewhat by harvesting at different times.
Is that beyond your level of comprehension?
SpruceZeus
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Hey man, you already posted that chart in this thread. It is really vague and flawed in that it doesnt take into account any other signs of "doneness" I've had amber and cloudy trichs at 3 weeks of flowering, but no experienced grower would actually harvest then.
Its charts like these that lead newbs to harvest far too early for their own good.
I held my tongue the first time. Even when 'you' explained the major cannabinoids twice. with outdated and conflicting information.
In my experience, pure-ish sativas with tropical origins that i've grown have a high that lasts much longer than the supposedly THCV-free indicas. Of course, i have no way of measuring specific cannabinoids within my weed, so it would be irresponsable to claim absolute knowledge of the psychoactive profiles of my cannabis. This is merely an observation.
People should learn to listen to their plants and harvest when they're ready, not when some arbitrary guide tells them to.
Why this war against ripe marijuana?
If you want a "head" high. grow a sativa to maturity, dont ruin an indica by chopping it before it has developed.
Stop the foolishness.
Its charts like these that lead newbs to harvest far too early for their own good.
I held my tongue the first time. Even when 'you' explained the major cannabinoids twice. with outdated and conflicting information.
So THC-V gets you higher faster but for a shorter amount of time?
In my experience, pure-ish sativas with tropical origins that i've grown have a high that lasts much longer than the supposedly THCV-free indicas. Of course, i have no way of measuring specific cannabinoids within my weed, so it would be irresponsable to claim absolute knowledge of the psychoactive profiles of my cannabis. This is merely an observation.
I'd love to see anything at all to back this up.
Oh? are you/the original author using animal studies as a basis for your facts? or are you just quoting two different articles with conflicting information?
While i'd agree with the first part of this, its almost as if you (or more than likely whoever you copied this from) are under the impression that THC is the only cannabinoid that actually gets you high.
People should learn to listen to their plants and harvest when they're ready, not when some arbitrary guide tells them to.
Why this war against ripe marijuana?
If you want a "head" high. grow a sativa to maturity, dont ruin an indica by chopping it before it has developed.
Stop the foolishness.
t0k3s
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Hahaha put the joint down and clear your brain out,cannabis has been around for thousands of years,and it ,sprouts,grows,they pollinate eachother,produce seeds and flowers,then the cycle is over,if you harvest before the cycle is over thats called premature,just like you would not want to have a baby to early, "PREMATURE" you want mature colas which you cant get unless you let the plant finish its cycle other wise its not finished,go on google and learn the cycle of the plant rather then sit here telling me stories about milky and amber trichomes,and oh yea my post,it was a joke by the way,it was aimed at those who always say,get a scope its the only way.
Brick Top
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Any information/advice, such as yours, that says "in my experience" is almost always totally wrong.
For one you said "pure-ish" and I never said anything about crosses, did I? Any time you have a cross you will have combined genetics and they will alter results. So your "pure-ish" sativas are not comparable to what I said.
The problem with people like yourself is you suffer from the delusion that THC levels are at their highest only when they are amber and that is a myth, an urban legend, a fallacy. It is what people who do not know the chemistry and biology of marijuana plants believe because certain effects seem to be more potent to them.
Once trichomes begin to darken the THC is beginning to break down so the level of THC cannot increase at that point and can only go down. If someone prefers the feeling of a couch-lock stone due to increased levels of CBN then by all means that is when they should harvest. But only the ignorant truly believe that equates to an increased level of THC. IT is only an increase in the effects they prefer.
That is the whole point to what I have said all along and that is each individual should harvest when the trichome color will give them the effects they most like. There is no rationale to harvesting when trichomes are milky white if you prefer more of a head high and less of a stone and there is no rationale in harvesting when the trichomes are amber if you prefer more of a head high and less of a stone.
Why is it that you cannot understand and accept such an extremely simple concept?
As for misleading newbs it is people like you who tell them to harvest when their crops will best fit YOUR personal preference rather then schooling them in how things work and then allowing THEM to decide for themselves when is the proper time to harvest so THEY end up with what THEY will like the most instead of what YOU would like the most.
As for your claim about seeing amber and cloudy trichomes after only 3-weeks of flowering, well I began growing roughly 37-years ago and I have never so much as one single time seen that happen. I can only believe that you are attempting to manufacture "evidence" to support your position.
malbulja
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Well said Spruce! If I see that stupid ass GrowFAQ trichome diagram one more time! I think it's pretty clear, when your plant looks like this:
Its done. If not then you're smoking resin glands.
Brick Top
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Hahaha put the joint down and clear your brain out,cannabis has been around for thousands of years,and it ,sprouts,grows,they pollinate eachother,produce seeds and flowers,then the cycle is over,if you harvest before the cycle is over thats called premature,just like you would not want to have a baby to early, "PREMATURE" you want mature colas which you cant get unless you let the plant finish its cycle other wise its not finished,go on google and learn the cycle of the plant rather then sit here telling me stories about milky and amber trichomes,and oh yea my post,it was a joke by the way,it was aimed at those who always say,get a scope its the only way.
I am well aware that cannabis has been around for a very long time.
I only mentioned 500 years because you had just used 500 years in what you said. Had you said 1000years I would have said 1000 years and so on.
My reply was to what you yourself said and not in any way any statement or claim about how long marijuana has existed.
Joke or not you said it and you used 500 years so that is what I replied to.
You statement about the life cycle of cannabis is a red herring. You cannot support what you claim because it is based on your personal opinions and on myths and urban legends from others so you want to blow smoke and twist and spin in hopes of finding some way to appear like you know what you are talking about.
Cannabis grown to smoke is not grown in the same manner as cannabis grown to perpetuate plants in the wild. Many strains will not produce fully mature viable seeds in the amount of flowering time it takes to get to the point where trichomes are milky white or amber.
That is why so much bagseed is so unreliable for growing, because the seeds were not fully mature, not viable, when it came time to harvest the plants for smoking.
You keep comparing apples and zebras and tossing in your personal opinions based in myths and urban legends and hippie misperceptions and hope that it is accepted by those who know even less than you do but while you may very well fool them you will not fool those who know more than you know.
I am curious, how many decades have you been growing marijuana? Is it very close to four decades as is the case with me? Are you even four decades old? Have you even grown for four whole years? I have roughly 37-years of growing under my belt. Can you match that? Can you come close to matching that?