9 million homes in foreclosure?

max420thc

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US foreclosures up 24 percent in 1st quarter

Foreclosures up 24 percent in first quarter as temporary halts expire


  • Alan Zibel, AP Real Estate Writer
  • Thursday April 16, 2009, 6:20 am EDT



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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The number of American households threatened with losing their homes grew 24 percent in the first three months of this year and is poised to rise further as major lenders restart foreclosures after a temporary break, according to data released Thursday.
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The big unknown for the coming months, however, is President Barack Obama's plan to help up to 9 million borrowers avoid foreclosure through refinanced mortgages or modified loans. The Obama administration expects its plans to make a big dent in the foreclosure crisis. But it remains to be seen whether the lending industry will fully embrace it, despite $75 billion in incentive payments.
The faltering economy is causing the housing crisis to spread. Nationwide, nearly 804,000 homes received at least one foreclosure-related notice from January through March, up from about 650,000 in the same time period a year earlier, according to RealtyTrac Inc., a foreclosure listing firm. During the quarter, Ohio was the state with the seventh highest number of homes seeing foreclosure activity with about 31,600 receiving at least one filing, up 1 percent from a year earlier.
In March, more than 340,000 properties were affected nationwide, up 17 percent from February and 46 percent from a year earlier. Ohio had 12,600 homes receiving foreclosure notices during the month, 12 percent more than during March 2008.
Foreclosures "came back with a vengeance" last month and are likely to keep rising, said Rick Sharga, RealtyTrac's senior vice president for marketing.
Nearly 191,000 properties completed the foreclosure process and were repossessed by banks in the quarter. While the number was down 13 percent from the fourth quarter of last year, it is expected to rise through the summer and then possibly taper off.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the big mortgage finance companies, together with many banks had temporarily halted foreclosures in advance of Obama's plan. Now armed with the details about which borrowers can qualify, the mortgage industry has begun foreclosing on ineligible borrowers.
The Treasury Department has signed contracts with six big loan servicing companies -- including Citgroup, Wells Fargo and JPMorgan Chase. Many have already started processing loans as part of the government's "Making Home Affordable" plan.
"We need to get the long-term solutions for these folks," Shaun Donovan, Obama's housing secretary, said in an interview.
In the coming months, Donovan said, there are still likely to be increased foreclosures, especially from vacant houses, second homes and those owned by speculators. None of those properties will qualify for a loan modification. However, he remained optimistic that overall foreclosures could start to decrease this summer.
But even industry executives who emphatically support the plan emphasize that it's success isn't guaranteed.
"The effectiveness of the plan overall obviously is going to depend on the level of industry participation," said Paul Koches, general counsel of Ocwen Financial, which collects loan payments on subprime loans.
Many borrowers and consumer groups claim the modifications offered by the lending industry don't do enough to help cash-strapped homeowners, despite more than a year of public prodding from regulators. Fewer than half of loan modifications made at the end of last year actually reduced borrowers' payments by more than 10 percent, data released last month show.
Plus, the lending industry has been swamped by the unprecedented wave of calls from distressed borrowers. "You can't wave a magic wand and make the loans suddenly modified," Sharga said. "They're all individual transactions."
In RealtyTrac's report, Nevada, Arizona, California and Florida had the nation's top foreclosure rates. In Nevada, one in every 27 homes received a foreclosure filing, while the number was one in every 54 in Arizona. Rounding out the top 10 were Illinois, Michigan, Georgia, Idaho, Utah and Oregon.
RealtyTrac Inc.: http://www.realtytrac.com


dont worry be happy. obongo and the dems see sign's of life in the economy.
the real estate auction companys must have a good lobbyist working with the obongo admin.

someone is going to have ALOT of work trying to liquidate 11 million foreclosed homes..and growing.
if the tax paying home owner was a bank they would have already received 130K dollars in tax payer help.
all of these foreclosed homes go to fannie mae.(the tax payer) and are purchased as bad debt by you the tax payer for almost full retail sales price of the home. then uncle obongo takes those houses and assets gaurantees them for 90 of purchase price so almost no matter what the investors who will by buying these assets for pennys on the dollar( alot of them from sovergn wealth funds)that means other countrys . they will be buying hard us real estate assets for pennys on the dollar and you the tax payer is going to gaurantee their proffit..
wow..i have never witnessed something this fucking crooked before..:fire:

treason against the united state by its elected officials.
 

max420thc

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no one has a comment on what nine million foreclosures in the next year is going to do to housing values . more bail out money on the way and not to mention what effect it is going to have on the general economy.
this is without mentioning commercial real estate values have dropped 30%
 

max420thc

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Stiglitz Says White House Ties to Wall Street Doom Bank Rescue
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By Michael McKee and Matthew Benjamin


April 17 (Bloomberg) -- The Obama administration’s bank- rescue efforts will probably fail because the programs have been designed to help Wall Street rather than create a viable financial system, Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz said.
“All the ingredients they have so far are weak, and there are several missing ingredients,” Stiglitz said in an interview yesterday. The people who designed the plans are “either in the pocket of the banks or they’re incompetent.”
The Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP, isn’t large enough to recapitalize the banking system, and the administration hasn’t been direct in addressing that shortfall, he said. Stiglitz said there are conflicts of interest at the White House because some of Obama’s advisers have close ties to Wall Street.
“We don’t have enough money, they don’t want to go back to Congress, and they don’t want to do it in an open way and they don’t want to get control” of the banks, a set of constraints that will guarantee failure, Stiglitz said.
The return to taxpayers from the TARP is as low as 25 cents on the dollar, he said. “The bank restructuring has been an absolute mess.”
Rather than continually buying small stakes in banks, weaker banks should be put through a receivership where the shareholders of the banks are wiped out and the bondholders become the shareholders, using taxpayer money to keep the institutions functioning, he said.
Nobel Prize
Stiglitz, 66, won the Nobel in 2001 for showing that markets are inefficient when all parties in a transaction don’t have equal access to critical information, which is most of the time. His work is cited in more economic papers than that of any of his peers, according to a February ranking by Research Papers in Economics, an international database.
The Public-Private Investment Program, PPIP, designed to buy bad assets from banks, “is a really bad program,” Stiglitz said. It won’t accomplish the administration’s goal of establishing a price for illiquid assets clogging banks’ balance sheets, and instead will enrich investors while sticking taxpayers with huge losses.
“You’re really bailing out the shareholders and the bondholders,” he said. “Some of the people likely to be involved in this, like Pimco, are big bondholders,” he said, referring to Pacific Investment Management Co., a bond investment firm in Newport Beach, California.
Bigger Losses
Stiglitz said taxpayer losses are likely to be much larger than bank profits from the PPIP program even though Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Chairman Sheila Bair has said the agency expects no losses.
“The statement from Sheila Bair that there’s no risk is absurd,” he said, because losses from the PPIP will be borne by the FDIC, which is funded by member banks.
“We’re going to be asking all the banks, including presumably some healthy banks, to pay for the losses of the bad banks,” Stiglitz said. “It’s a real redistribution and a tax on all American savers.”
Stiglitz was also concerned about the links between White House advisers and Wall Street. Hedge fund D.E. Shaw & Co. paid National Economic Council Director Lawrence Summers, a managing director of the firm, more than $5 million in salary and other compensation in the 16 months before he joined the administration. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner was president of the New York Federal Reserve Bank.
‘Revolving Door’
“America has had a revolving door. People go from Wall Street to Treasury and back to Wall Street,” he said. “Even if there is no quid pro quo, that is not the issue. The issue is the mindset.”
Stiglitz was head of the White House’s Council of Economic Advisers under President Bill Clinton before serving from 1997 to 2000 as chief economist at the World Bank. He resigned from that post in 2000 after repeatedly clashing with the White House over economic policies it supported at the International Monetary Fund. He is now a professor at Columbia University.
Stiglitz was also critical of Obama’s other economic rescue programs.
He called the $787 billion stimulus program necessary but “flawed” because too much spending comes after 2009, and because it devotes too much of the money to tax cuts “which aren’t likely to work very effectively.”
“It’s really a peculiar policy, I think,” he said.
Plan Deficient
The $75 billion mortgage relief program, meanwhile, doesn’t do enough to help Americans who can’t afford to make their monthly payments, he said. It doesn’t reduce principal, doesn’t make changes in bankruptcy law that would help people work out debts, and doesn’t change the incentive to simply stop making payments once a mortgage is greater than the value of a house.
Stiglitz said the Fed, while it’s done almost all it can to bring the country back from the worst recession since 1982, can’t revive the economy on its own.
Relying on low interest rates to help put a floor under housing prices is a variation on the policies that created the housing bubble in the first place, Stiglitz said.
“This is a strategy trying to recreate that bubble,” he said. “That’s not likely to provide a long run solution. It’s a solution that says let’s kick the can down the road a little bit.”
While the strategy might put a floor under housing prices, it won’t do anything to speed the recovery, he said. “It’s a recipe for Japanese-style malaise.”
To contact the reporter on this story: Michael McKee in New York at [email protected]; Matthew Benjamin in Washington at [email protected]
Last Updated: April 17, 2009 00:02 EDT

here is what a good noble prize winning economist thinks.
 

CrackerJax

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This administration has never been about turning the economy around...it's been about using a recession to gain powah... the fallout will be shifted onto someone else in the end. Of course... :lol:

out. :blsmoke:
 

max420thc

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the man just said they are either the dumbest fuckers on the planet or the most crooked fuckers on the planet..
not in those exact words . but he might as well have said it.
it is amazing how many of the worlds billionaires have lined up against obama.
exept the ones profiting from his schemes..LIKE BUFFET .
soros who helped get him elected is stating he is a disaster.
jom rogers. marc faber pokes fun at obama and the idiots in his admin all the time. comparing him to mugabe and laughing while he is doing it.i dont blame him. he is not american and it is a big joke that around 60 million people could be so collectivly stupid as to vote for him.
 

Hulk Nugs

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dam i wish i could get a list of the homes i would start making payments on one ....... i have been looking for a nice cheap home .... i guess i will have to look at those auctions.
 

max420thc

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yea.. good idea. you can try williams and williams online auctions . they are one of the largest foreclosure liquidation auctions houses in the country.
but there are several others. you will have no problem finding a home in foreclosure for sale..i might wait another year or two for housing to come down even futher.
another 9 million homes should have a huge depressing effect on market values on homes.
so you will see them get even cheaper and cheaper.
 

Hulk Nugs

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yea i just need to start looking like you said there are tons of them out there and i want to try and find my dream home/ranch i want some land lots of it and if i could get a house/ranch/farm already on it then i will be golden.
 

max420thc

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if you cant afford to buy a home and pay cash for it you cant afford it.
if you cant afford to buy a car and pay cash for it you cant afford it.
the bad thing is the nine million homes in foreclosure and the people who could not afford to buy it to begin with.
you and I and every american tax payer will be paying the bill for them back to the investors who lost their money.
how would you like to go to vegas lose your money then be reimbursed by the tax payer? you just transfer the loss gambling to someone who had nothing to do with the bet?
this shit is annoying as hell .
it is illegal and unconstitutional.
 

CrackerJax

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The housing bailout like all things with good intentions will end badly by keeping the market artificially high. It's the same thing as rent control...it only pushes prices UP UP UP...

out. :blsmoke:
 

fdd2blk

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2 years ago my buddy moved into a house on the golf course. he was laughing. said i should talk to his loan person, "she can get anyone qualified". i told him i don't think i could really afford it. he said she'd hook me up. i passed. he just spent the last 10 months living mortgage free waiting for the bank to take his house. he laughed and moved into a rental.

it's all his fault. him and his loan agent. :cuss:


dude would come to work with starbucks in his hand and complain he didn't have money to buy his kids milk. :roll:
 

max420thc

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so..what do you think about paying his mortgage for him?
i remember the day one guy got fired. he had already been given several chances a young kid around 18 years old his daddy worked for the company that is what got him a job.well anyhow he showed up late to work one to many times with a cup of coffee in his hand and a bag of donuts.and said oops sorry i am late.
next question you are late to work but you had time to stop and get you a bag of donuts and a cup of coffee?
no answer? well did you get enough for everyone then ? no answer..
next order given to the kid was to move a pile of copper tubes that some plumbers were going to use..so he started picking it up from one pile throwing it over to another area to where he was going to move it damaging all this fucking tubing..
that was it for him. time for your dumb ass to go home . your fired.
you wouldnt believe some of the stupid shit ive seen people do.my tolerance level for stupid has went to a all time low lately
 

NorthwestBuds

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so..what do you think about paying his mortgage for him?
i remember the day one guy got fired. he had already been given several chances a young kid around 18 years old his daddy worked for the company that is what got him a job.well anyhow he showed up late to work one to many times with a cup of coffee in his hand and a bag of donuts.and said oops sorry i am late.
next question you are late to work but you had time to stop and get you a bag of donuts and a cup of coffee?
no answer? well did you get enough for everyone then ? no answer..
next order given to the kid was to move a pile of copper tubes that some plumbers were going to use..so he started picking it up from one pile throwing it over to another area to where he was going to move it damaging all this fucking tubing..
that was it for him. time for your dumb ass to go home . your fired.
you wouldnt believe some of the stupid shit ive seen people do.my tolerance level for stupid has went to a all time low lately
Max, I'm sure, in your mind, you think you are making intelligent posts here. But unfortunately you seem to be completely unaware of the English language. Your Spelling, Grammar and Punctuation are absolutely atrocious. Which, quite frankly, makes my tolerance for reading your posts also come in at an all time low. :hump:
 

"SICC"

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you guys are all pathetic :lol:

grow weed and sftu already, idk why we have this stupid political sub forum, half you idiots just come on here trying to act smart, who gives a fuc, and this fool correcting peoples grammar, thats disgusting :spew:
 

fdd2blk

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[quote="SICC";2386999]you guys are all pathetic :lol:

grow weed and sftu already, idk why we have this stupid political sub forum, half you idiots just come on here trying to act smart, who gives a fuc, and this fool correcting peoples grammar, thats disgusting :spew:[/quote]


"fuck" has a "k" in it. :roll:
 

"SICC"

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Shit i would be too if every time i make a journal, some idiot comes in trying to give me advise haha, when you obviously dont need it, and all the random arguments you have to get in between, you got a hard job man, you can be an asshole all you want :mrgreen:
 
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