5 gal DWC, root rot i think

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ganjaboii024

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hey guys, i have 2 plants each in a 5 gal DWC bucket, one is doing great, white roots, drinking lots of water, growing well, the other...stunted growth, browning stinky roots, looks like slime on the roots, i added 50 ml of 3% h2o2 into the rez.

is there anything i can do? i heard you cant cure the roots but you can stop the rot and the plant will survive and new growth will be healthy
 
smppro

smppro

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Cold water temps and lots of air is the only thing to really prevent it. You could also look into getting some GH Sub Culture
 
olosto

olosto

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ganjaboii024 said:
they have air stones in them, one is going great like i said but the other isnt
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Hey I'm kinda new but I have found that if you do not have enough bubbles, your system will get messed up and it takes forever to get it straight again. Make sure that under every plant, there are a ton of bubbles coming up around the rootmass.
 
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ganjaboii024

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olosto said:
Hey I'm kinda new but I have found that if you do not have enough bubbles, your system will get messed up and it takes forever to get it straight again. Make sure that under every plant, there are a ton of bubbles coming up around the rootmass.
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iv got the elite 802 airpump, i have a 6 inch airstone at the bottom of each bucket
there are lots of bubbles, im going to get another pump tho and have two 6" airstones per bucket. teeing airstones doesnt seem to work for me, one of them gets all the air and the other barely makes bubles so ill just hook a stone to each output on the pump

bdomina said:
hygrozyme ASAP
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ill do some more reading into it but i gotta find a supplier that ships to canada!

i decided to go and clean out the rez of my rotting plant, i washed the roots in the shower and the brown slimey stinky shit washed off, the roots are still brown but not covered in shit and while i was washing the roots about half of my total rootmass just washed away :cuss: damn root rot

o well

thanks guys for all the input
 
Knally

Knally

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bdomina said:
hygrozyme ASAP
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I had to switch to Hygrozyme from Hydroguard since the mfg. quit making it and the dealer didn't have the replacement product yet. That was two weeks ago and I have lost 5 plants with many more in various stages of hopeful recovery.

All I know is that within days of the change to Hygrozyme my beautiful girls had nute lockout and root rot. I'm researching other alternatives now.

I have flushed and cleaned the reservoirs and the roots. Time will tell.
 
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ganjaboii024

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Knally said:
I had to switch to Hygrozyme from Hydroguard since the mfg. quit making it and the dealer didn't have the replacement product yet. That was two weeks ago and I have lost 5 plants with many more in various stages of hopeful recovery.

All I know is that within days of the change to Hygrozyme my beautiful girls had nute lockout and root rot. I'm researching other alternatives now.

I have flushed and cleaned the reservoirs and the roots. Time will tell.
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ill have to take a second look at it i guess, although i havent found a suplier thattl shit it to canada so im already looking for alternatives
 
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ganjaboii024

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so after the wash and loosing about 1/2 of my total rootmass....the root rot is back and it continues on. FU(K !!
do you think that plant is a gonner, its growing really slowly, the bottom leaves are yellowing and getting pale kinda like the plant is using up nutes from the leaves to live, its not consuming any water, leafs are drooping
the other one is doing well, healthy fast growing, drinking up its water
my question, should i kill they rotting plant and put that airstone into the other plants bucket for more airation and hope that plant turns out to be a female?
 
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chalkie

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ganjaboii024 said:
so after the wash and loosing about 1/2 of my total rootmass....the root rot is back and it continues on. FU(K !!
do you think that plant is a gonner, its growing really slowly, the bottom leaves are yellowing and getting pale kinda like the plant is using up nutes from the leaves to live, its not consuming any water, leafs are drooping
the other one is doing well, healthy fast growing, drinking up its water
my question, should i kill they rotting plant and put that airstone into the other plants bucket for more airation and hope that plant turns out to be a female?
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Tuff ta say man. some say forget the ones that look sickly and focus on the strong ones to keep them going, others say the opposite. have you checked inside the pot for this sludge? really never heard of roots rotting in a DWC. is your reserv. light tight? is the one thats looking sick the one that wasnt getting the amount of bubbles youd like?
 
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ganjaboii024

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chalkie said:
Tuff ta say man. some say forget the ones that look sickly and focus on the strong ones to keep them going, others say the opposite. have you checked inside the pot for this sludge? really never heard of roots rotting in a DWC. is your reserv. light tight? is the one thats looking sick the one that wasnt getting the amount of bubbles youd like?
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its a dark purple color, its a wine making juice bucket. both buckets are bubbling the same, before i used to have 2 6" air stones in each bucket but only one of each of the 2 pairs would bubble the other would just bubble a bit, thats why now i only have 1 6" air stone per bucket
the inside of the pot doesnt seem to have any sludge but the roots are brown there as well
 
8deez8

8deez8

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ganjaboii024 said:
its a dark purple color, its a wine making juice bucket. both buckets are bubbling the same, before i used to have 2 6" air stones in each bucket but only one of each of the 2 pairs would bubble the other would just bubble a bit, thats why now i only have 1 6" air stone per bucket
the inside of the pot doesnt seem to have any sludge but the roots are brown there as well
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If there is no snot or sludge the brown is from the hygrozyme dont worry bout it. Hygrozyme helps but is overpriced... i had snot on my roots the BEST way to kill it is get your rez temps down to 62-67* F and make sure there are no dead spots not circulating in your 5 gal, i.e. air stones too high, pvc pipe with stagnant water at bottom, etc...
 
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ganjaboii024

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8deez8 said:
If there is no snot or sludge the brown is from the hygrozyme dont worry bout it. Hygrozyme helps but is overpriced... i had snot on my roots the BEST way to kill it is get your rez temps down to 62-67* F and make sure there are no dead spots not circulating in your 5 gal, i.e. air stones too high, pvc pipe with stagnant water at bottom, etc...
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i havent used hygrozyme.
i jusst want to know is it worth me trying to save this plant or is it just rele damadged and i should just put my effort into the healthy one
 
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ganjaboii024

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on some other threads i was readin that once root rot sets in the plant is dead but you can still get a harvest if you are far enough into flowering. im in veg, growth is stalled and it looks to me like the plant is consuming the nutes out of the older growth to support the new growth. i added a buch of h2o2 to the rez and and slime on the roots seems to have gone but it still looks like the rot is persistant (however i do see a couple white root tips here and there)
thoughs please, can i save this one
 
Knally

Knally

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ganjaboii024 said:
on some other threads i was readin that once root rot sets in the plant is dead but you can still get a harvest if you are far enough into flowering. im in veg, growth is stalled and it looks to me like the plant is consuming the nutes out of the older growth to support the new growth. i added a buch of h2o2 to the rez and and slime on the roots seems to have gone but it still looks like the rot is persistant (however i do see a couple white root tips here and there)
thoughs please, can i save this one
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You can save it if you really want to. The new root growth is evidence of recovery....but it will take several weeks to get the growth back on track and hope that the plant hasn't already been stressed too much. Change the res water often, keep the water ph'd and increase your nitrogen gradually in your feedings.

I lost 8 girls so far to root rot/nutrient lockout after a change to Hygrozyme. It affected 4 of my dwc res'. I am now seeing new rroot growth and new vegetative growth and babying the remaining 14 girls as they recover.

I lost one girl from old, old 70's bagseed before she/he showed sex in flowering. I took clones that have rooted so I'll have to wait for sexing again to see if I have any killer 70's bud or not.
 
Knally

Knally

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The air curtain works well when it has a large enough air pump behind it. But then again what air stones don't?

Whatever air stones, curtains, wands, etc. you get, the amount of air you provide is important.
 
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ganjaboii024

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Knally said:
The air curtain works well when it has a large enough air pump behind it. But then again what air stones don't?

Whatever air stones, curtains, wands, etc. you get, the amount of air you provide is important.
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i have the elite 802, it has an output of 1.5 L/min (X 2) @ 3.5 psi
i think ill swap the stone out with the air curtain ans see what happens, i think the air curtain will just make sure that the bubbles are eveny spread out and since it comes with those weights it will keep it in place
the plant is improving, i see a couple more white roots every day but i gotta keep pumping up the system with a lot of h2o2
i started cutting off some of the growth from the bottom of the plant, ill take some snaps of the stems and the plants and ill take a quick pic of both the root systems while im changing the rez's
 
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