CrackerJax
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another EPIC FAILURE
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marc faber manages billions of dollars and is considered one of the best investors in the world.
HE IS NEVER FUCKING WRONG.
who is smarter and has more knowledge of economics?
would you invest your money with obama or marc faber?
would you invest your money with george bush or marc faber?
would you invest your money with timmy geithner or ben bernake who have not been right one single time on over two fucking years.
if i was wrong on my job every single time for two fucking years i wouldnt have a fucking job. not in the government you get promoted..
it looks like all logical sense points to anyone with a brain investing money with marc faber..
the rest of these ass holes are just idiots fucking you to death .
HE IS NEVER FUCKING WRONG.
who is smarter and has more knowledge of economics?
would you invest your money with obama or marc faber?
would you invest your money with george bush or marc faber?
would you invest your money with timmy geithner or ben bernake who have not been right one single time on over two fucking years.
if i was wrong on my job every single time for two fucking years i wouldnt have a fucking job. not in the government you get promoted..
it looks like all logical sense points to anyone with a brain investing money with marc faber..
the rest of these ass holes are just idiots fucking you to death .
TheBrutalTruth
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No, they're not different.
They are all criminal activities.
On top of that is the fact that they typically hold low end jobs where just one trip to the emergency room at the expense of the tax payers can easily wipe out 15 - 20 years ($15 - $20K) of them paying taxes.
Then there's the billions that they send back to Mexico. Money, which if it was spent employing a Citizen would stay in the community, because the citizen wouldn't be inclined to send a portion of it back home.
Then there's the fact that in housing they also contribute to the down turn. Whereas US Citizens would not be willing to live 13 - 14 in a single house some illegal immigrants do just that, weakening the local housing economy twice over. Once, because the displaced workers they have left unemployed can't afford housing, and again, because of the fact that there's 11 - 12 that would be renting another 5 - 6 apartments or houses.
And, while the statement about it being their money to do with what they want once they earn it is true, that does not mean that they are not also a drain on the local economies, because of the fact that they are sending their money back to wherever...
Of course, Western Union probably loves immigrants, because they gouge on fees for sending money.
CrackerJax
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I disagree with the money issue....once you earn it, it's yours do to with as you please. Just like anyone else. That's like saying I can't move money overseas....
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SunKissedBuds
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lol the bush vido was priceless! lol what a smooth guy he is! lol
TheBrutalTruth
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Are you denying that you moving money overseas takes it out of the local economy?I disagree with the money issue....once you earn it, it's yours do to with as you please. Just like anyone else. That's like saying I can't move money overseas....
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medicineman
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Seems like the government isn't the only employer promoting incompetence, check out most of your private financial execs, wall street tycoons, heads of failing corporations, etc.
CrackerJax
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In a way I am denying it, since there really is no such thing as a local economy. If I pay (illegal) XXX dollars and get a return on my service, what does it matter where that paycheck went? It all comes back in the end as long as we stay productive. Locals don't have their own currency... when they need dough, they go to the bank, just like everyone else. It matters not that I spent XXX percentage in that town or I ship it overseas, as long as it is in play to keep the wheel moving...it's all good. Like it or not, illegals may shave their cost of living down, but they still spend. Their sent home money is turned back into goods for us or someone else to purchase...and so it continues. It only breaks down if we go into protectionist mode. Then we (and the locals) get hurt. Which is happening right now by the way....
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that is because they are regulated and ran by the government .
the government beats them into failure and says he look you failed now you need my help. just like NAFTA and GATT beat alot of companys to either move out of the country or fail competing with other companys who have.
if the government wasnt proping up fannie mae and freddie mac you would have incompetence . what we have now is a continuing support of incompetence .
guess what happens when you subsidize something ? YOU GET MORE OF IT.
bicycle racer
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those rednecks in the minivan cant even spell there dribble hahaha typical. there is nothing worst than stupid hatefull religious people lol. crimes are not crimes some are much worse than others period crossing the border and rape are incomparable. as far as immigration im not sure what the right answer is. i can say if your an american born and raised here with a basic education and some guy can come over the border with with just a shirt on his back no understanding of the language and can immediately do your job as well or better than you. well all i can say is thats the least of your laundry list of life problems dont breed. most americans wont do the jobs illegals do anyways and prefer to sit on welfare this was prevalent when i lived in idaho out of work white trash hating on mexicans drinking beer doing nothing.
medicineman
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Looks like you finally went off the tracks. I listen to your supercapitalism bullshit a lot on this forum, seems you think excessive greed is just a way of life. It's OK for the boss to make millions while cutting jobs and benefits. People like you should follow your money and get the fuck out of "socialist" America. All you do is bitch about the working man being overpaid, and why not let the global market come to Amewrica. Then the Bossman could make a lot more money while the workers would be living in a Mumbai slum surrounding. It's people like you that will end up with their heads stuck on a pole when the shit comes down, that's a sight I'd pay admission to see.
CrackerJax
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While max tends to get overheated....(passionate?), that post was entirely accurate. The Govt. helps the debacle along, points fingers at EVERYONE (except themselves) and then skip jumps into the bloody fray with public misinformed support and gathers the power to harm us further. Sad, but very very true.
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medicineman
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So, you wouldn't hold the greedy CEOs in complicity? I doubt if this is all the governments fault. I know what a plutochracy is and this system certainly fits the description, an oligarchic plutochracy, where a few rich dudes run the world, or maybe just the worlds corporations and governments, AKA, the world. To even think the playing field is even, is to be one naive SOB. I've personally seen the obstacles to success, they are many unless you have the right backing. It takes a very extraordinary individual to pull himself up by his "Bootstraps" and make a success story out of nothing.While max tends to get overheated....(passionate?), that post was entirely accurate. The Govt. helps the debacle along, points fingers at EVERYONE (except themselves) and then skip jumps into the bloody fray with public misinformed support and gathers the power to harm us further. Sad, but very very true.
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CrackerJax
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I think EVERYONE involved with malfeasance needs to be brought up on charges. EVERYONE.... that is not happening. There has been policy makers in the Govt. who have set this scenario up and are using the fallout to take control of the private sector. I can't find anyone I know of who thinks politicians know how to run private business better than the private business itself. You have the Obama administration gaining 2% of a bank (two percent!!) and then telling them what they have to do and who to hire and who to loan to.... on 2%...it's nonsense and criminal. A few big banks want to give the MONEY BACK!! They have read the fine print and say NoNO.. (good for them). But guess what, Obama says NO...you can't GIVE the money back???!!! That is a HUGE tipoff to what is REALLY gouing on here. At least to me it is. Follow the action and not the words.
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medicineman
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Actually, I find that hard to believe. I've heard just the opposite, in fact I believe he's said he'd be glad to take the money back if the corporations weren't going to comply. I'm sure he'd rather use the money to fund his domestic spending agenda, I know I sure would. And BTW since when does anyone get money carte blanche? You takes the money, you adheres to the conditions.I think EVERYONE involved with malfeasance needs to be brought up on charges. EVERYONE.... that is not happening. There has been policy makers in the Govt. who have set this scenario up and are using the fallout to take control of the private sector. I can't find anyone I know of who thinks politicians know how to run private business better than the private business itself. You have the Obama administration gaining 2% of a bank (two percent!!) and then telling them what they have to do and who to hire and who to loan to.... on 2%...it's nonsense and criminal. A few big banks want to give the MONEY BACK!! They have read the fine print and say NoNO.. (good for them). But guess what, Obama says NO...you can't GIVE the money back???!!! That is a HUGE tipoff to what is REALLY gouing on here. At least to me it is. Follow the action and not the words.
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bicycle racer
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if a poor person commits a crime its a crime. when a wealthy person commits a crime its just business or capitalism in motion. greed is out of control in this country the ceos who commit these crimes need to be made accountable for there actions. if a crack head robs a liquor store and gets 25 years a ceo who steals millions should be rightly punished. i really believe some of these people need to be executed publicly maybe that would speak in a language these evil people would understand because of course there concern is for themselves not for anyone else. our current problems were a long time coming and mainly caused by unchecked greed.
CrackerJax
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No, that is not what is happening. The administration has REFUSED to cash the banks checks.
And since when does a 2% stake in ANY corporation give you dictatorship privileges. 2% is just that 2 %.
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medicineman
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The question must be: Did the recipients know of the conditions before they took the loot? If so then it's ipso facto. They should quit bitching, and so should you.No, that is not what is happening. The administration has REFUSED to cash the banks checks.
And since when does a 2% stake in ANY corporation give you dictatorship privileges. 2% is just that 2 %.
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CrackerJax
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I hardly thought Wagner knew that he could be fired by popular edicts form a president...did you? What kind of a government is that? Venezuelan?
Look at it from another perspective. You either give the PEOPLES money to corp's you think are a good INVESTMENT or you DON'T. There shouldn't be ANY strings to that money. That's not the most efficient way of utilizing bail out money. It's about CONTROL..... careful what you wish for.
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Look at it from another perspective. You either give the PEOPLES money to corp's you think are a good INVESTMENT or you DON'T. There shouldn't be ANY strings to that money. That's not the most efficient way of utilizing bail out money. It's about CONTROL..... careful what you wish for.
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