Just an idea on legalization

[petrushka]

Interesting...

that reminds me of the two mice who fell in a bucket of cream

 

[ViRedd]

Interesting...

that reminds me of the two mice who fell in a bucket of cream

More like from the fire into the frying pan.

Vi

 

[Hydrotech364]

You are absolutely right VI I'm not disputing that.But that isn't how it works anymore,we have to feed the machine and the machine just got 3 trillion dollars hungrier.I realise what Ben Franklin said and i want it but now we do have to trade our liberties for freedom.I hate it bro but the truth is ,Life's a bitch the world's a whore and Mickey Mouse is just another fucking rat!

 

[misshestermoffitt]

YES I do.

All I know is, if Obama was eating lunch and I walked over and scooped half his food off his plate onto my plate and then walked away with it, he'd be fucking pissed.

Do any of you see taxation as theft as I do?


Vi

 

[ilkhan]

Look at it another way ... The Good Lord, or the God of Nature if you prefer, gave us a gift called cannabis. This gift helps us sleep, lifts our mood and eases our pain. Gifts are free. Government has no roll in the equasion.

I like that man nice one. Here is a question though. What kind of tax would you be in faver of if any? Do you see a need for government at all then Vi? Do we have Anachy, night watchmen or minanachist state what? I could go for Night Watchmen State Any more then that and we are really delving into unexplored teritory. I don't want to not have a military. Just a slimed down one roll about 80% of the Army into the National Guard same with the Air Force but the Navy we need to keep that strong same with the Marines IMO.

But what would be an excepable tax for you Vi if any?

 

[Where in the hell am I?]

You are absolutely right VI I'm not disputing that.But that isn't how it works anymore,we have to feed the machine and the machine just got 3 trillion dollars hungrier.I realise what Ben Franklin said and i want it but now we do have to trade our liberties for freedom.I hate it bro but the truth is ,Life's a bitch the world's a whore and Mickey Mouse is just another fucking rat!

This sums up my point, fairly well, in the long run! None of us agree w/how they go about w/taxes in this country. Hell, the I.R.S. is not even an OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT AGENCY!!!! Yet, try to debate their power w/them and ya do FED TIME?!?

 

[TheBrutalTruth]

You are absolutely right VI I'm not disputing that.But that isn't how it works anymore,we have to feed the machine and the machine just got 3 trillion dollars hungrier.I realise what Ben Franklin said and i want it but now we do have to trade our liberties for freedom.I hate it bro but the truth is ,Life's a bitch the world's a whore and Mickey Mouse is just another fucking rat!

QUACK QUACK

All right, I'm sorry, but now you're making absolutely no fucking sense. The very action of trading our liberties for "Freedom" isn't possible. You can not give away the very things that make you free and some how be more free.

Are you a Democrat, because the only way I can see that making any sense is if you are, because you would also believe the myth that if everyone gives away their cash that they will some how magically get richer, instead of poorer.

 

[Hydrotech364]

I think the biggest cut should be from NASA.We havent even explored our own ocean to the extent that we have explored space.Ok already we have superiority in space.So enough already.Space exploration is a huge bill and half the shit they send up there either blows up or ends up as space junk.Diapers also.I think that if their is an extraterrestrial species out there they will find us or they realized they are junking up the galaxy's also and will contact us later.If they came up on us now they would see a fucked up mobile home and a shitload of garbage.Earth the garbage planet.

 

[thebeatledude]

Marijuana will never be tax free. The American government is to greedy. As long as they can make money off of it, they will.

 

[TheBrutalTruth]

I think the biggest cut should be from NASA.We havent even explored our own ocean to the extent that we have explored space.Ok already we have superiority in space.So enough already.Space exploration is a huge bill and half the shit they send up there either blows up or ends up as space junk.Diapers also.I think that if their is an extraterrestrial species out there they will find us or they realized they are junking up the galaxy's also and will contact us later.If they came up on us now they would see a fucked up mobile home and a shitload of garbage.Earth the garbage planet.

Department of Education - Unconstitutional
HHS - Unconstitutional


NASA on the other hand can be seen as an extension of the Navy.

Making the spacelanes safe for commerce.

Besides, the Earth is doomed to destruction anyway.

I'd rather that humanity not be here when that happens.

 

[Ole Budheavy]

As far as Im concerned, those people that grow their own vegetables and sell them at farmers markets probably don't pay taxes on what they make, its all cash. When you can grow your own, the government can't tax you unless you're actually reporting your income. This is a major reason bureaucrats hate the legalization notion.

If I had land I'd hide my huge legal garden within avocado trees. Maybe I'd even get a guard dog. Poachers, not the feds are our biggest concern now.

 

[Where in the hell am I?]

As far as Im concerned, those people that grow their own vegetables and sell them at farmers markets probably don't pay taxes on what they make, its all cash. When you can grow your own, the government can't tax you unless you're actually reporting your income. This is a major reason bureaucrats hate the legalization notion.

If I had land I'd hide my huge legal garden within avocado trees. Maybe I'd even get a guard dog. Poachers, not the feds are our biggest concern now.

If ya rent a booth @ ANY of the farmers markets near ME, ya will be paying taxes!

 

[diggitydank420]

Ok, I don't think you are all understanding the analogy that ViRedd is throwing down.

If you want to know what he is talking about, get two big bowls (not bowls of weed) and fill one with hot water and one with ice water. Put one hand in each bowl, neither hand will feel hot or cold, they will both feel just about neutral.

 

[OregonMeds]

I won't support taxing at higher levels than tobacco or alcohol, period. And technically I think this is the first time in history I've ever agreed with Vii, but I really don't think it should be taxed at all. I don't think anything should be taxed. Fucking complicated bullshit system not only are the things all taxed but even your power and you r phone and your cable. Fuck all that. There should be an income tax that you can't get around and that's that. No property tax no gas tax none of the trillions of dollars of overhead all that creates and none of the inflated prices that creates.

Fucking A they tax us multiple times on the same money... You put money away to retire on or whatever and it's taxed going in and taxed coming out. You inherit shit from relatives which they already paid tax on and then you have to pay on it again.

This country has gone all to hell... If the founding fathers were here now they be shooting cans of tea at the white house.

 

[medicineman]

I won't support taxing at higher levels than tobacco or alcohol, period. And technically I think this is the first time in history I've ever agreed with Vii, but I really don't think it should be taxed at all. I don't think anything should be taxed. Fucking complicated bullshit system not only are the things all taxed but even your power and you r phone and your cable. Fuck all that. There should be an income tax that you can't get around and that's that. No property tax no gas tax none of the trillions of dollars of overhead all that creates and none of the inflated prices that creates.

Fucking A they tax us multiple times on the same money... You put money away to retire on or whatever and it's taxed going in and taxed coming out. You inherit shit from relatives which they already paid tax on and then you have to pay on it again.

This country has gone all to hell... If the founding fathers were here now they be shooting cans of tea at the white house.

Hey, join the conservocrats on the 15th, they're going to tea bag Washington DC, like that will do any good.

 

[OregonMeds]

I was talking about shooting cans at the white house, like with a spud gun. Some of those suckers can pass through a couple walls. That would get noticed. Whatever lame shit these guys have planned isn't going to do jack, you're right.

 

[medicineman]

I was talking about shooting cans at the white house, like with a spud gun. Some of those suckers can pass through a couple walls. That would get noticed. Whatever lame shit these guys have planned isn't going to do jack, you're right.

I'm afraid shooting anything at the white house may get you an early grave. Suicide by cop I believe it's called.

 

[OregonMeds]

I said the founding fathers would do it if they were here now, not that I would do it. There would have been a full on revolutionary war if the things that were going on now were done back then as far as all the taxation and huge government, loss of all rights and removal of protections of our privacy and freedom, the war on drugs including mj and etc etc the list could go on and on. They simply would not stand for any of it.

 

[medicineman]

I said the founding fathers would do it if they were here now, not that I would do it. There would have been a full on revolutionary war if the things that were going on now were done back then as far as all the taxation and huge government, loss of all rights and removal of protections of our privacy and freedom, the war on drugs including mj and etc etc the list could go on and on. They simply would not stand for any of it.

"Times they are a changing", Bob Dylan.

 

[diggitydank420]

I said the founding fathers would do it if they were here now, not that I would do it. There would have been a full on revolutionary war if the things that were going on now were done back then as far as all the taxation and huge government, loss of all rights and removal of protections of our privacy and freedom, the war on drugs including mj and etc etc the list could go on and on. They simply would not stand for any of it.